Author Topic: Uhuru to leave Kenyans with Sh7trn debt at end of his term  (Read 3812 times)

Offline audacityofhope

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Re: Uhuru to leave Kenyans with Sh7trn debt at end of his term
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2018, 10:42:58 PM »

Kadame,
That pertinent point by Kadudu... how do you even begin to think about increasing the 15% when the Obados have helped themselves with a cool 2.5B+, out of the 15%? You want to triple that so the Obados and Kideros siphon 7.5B instead of the 2.5B?? I am almost sure all 47 governors except Gov K. Kibwana put their hand in the till
Look, si iyo tu ....  :o
Start by advocating fiscal discipline at the National level so that lessons learned and laws are enforced also at county level.
Audacity, that's why I said anti corruption fight must reach fever pitch. You and Kadudu seem to be operating from a strange paradigm of either/or. Either you fix the county or the national govt. Makes no sense to me. You can do both at once, yanno! Counties must begin to provide social services to our people, to do that they must be viable and well run. Social services make life easier even when things are hard. Right now in Kenya every small change makes life impossible for ordinary folks. We are just concerned about different aspects of governance right now. No one thinks anyone should be allowed to loot. I resent that suggestion by Kadudu, it's practically an insult.
Kadame,
After watching NTV 9pm bulletin today, I am quickly convinced that you must be the only Kenyan who thinks this thing is a counties vs National government thing. Kenyans are united like never before. we are not squabbling on semantics. Before I elaborate for avoidance of doubt, I came in like a third party, a neutral party when commenting on what your takes from opposite sides of the river bank were. Kadudu argument is far from taking a position between two evils. He is simply wants you to approach a problem from its logical head. And that is what that NTV report"Angry Kenyans" was about. It was not just KOT but Kenyans being interviewed live live... not hiding their identities... being very critical and making it very clear that the person they blame for the state of the economy is none other than the president, there was no mention of any Governor... it was about leadership at the top gone rogue. This country is not getting the leadership it deserves.

Kadame, some days are bad days... that is kawaida to all of us. Now is a good time to revisit the dictionary definition of a what a leader is, ama?

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Re: Uhuru to leave Kenyans with Sh7trn debt at end of his term
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2018, 07:48:48 AM »
Audacity, I think the point is I am not approaching it like a counties vs national govt thing at all, you guys are. Because I didn't mention the national govt anywhere. You guys assumed an entire argument for me that I never made about the national govt and proceeded to refute it, to my amazement. I just expressed what I think we should do in the new constitutional dispensation, that's where my focus is. For the debt, I said 'what a mess' and moved on. :) Hamna chida. And I'm glad people are united, I hope that unity translates to something that actually make itself felt for change. I've discovered that many Africans look up to Kenya as something they are proud of--to my shock! I hope we can actually live up to that good reputation and make necessary changes.:D

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Re: Uhuru to leave Kenyans with Sh7trn debt at end of his term
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2018, 07:58:09 AM »
Yes, of course. Devolved resources must approach 50-50.
Kadame, you did not have to be explicit in mentioning Counties and National govt. It was implicit when you typed "50-50". That has not gone well with some us, because we know that since 2013, the counties have not earned any fiscal trust to warrant a scale up. I give an example below. That primarily is because the leader of zamunda who by definition is supposed to provide leadership and a vision has not led by example. Or has he? The example of putting his fingers in the till at the National level   :(

Oct 03, 2018 news:
Clerk paid wife Sh26m for supplying nothing

As to Africans looking up to Kenya such is our level of mediocrity... that we can say in the land of the blind, the one-eyed is King.