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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2018, 04:33:43 PM »
You are right. However in kikuyu where I am from gays were not harrased nor were other sexualities such bisexual and asexual people. It is only that Christianity created superficial hate of gays and bastardized traditions. Anyway most of asexual men tend to hang with Catholic priest so there is truth in what you observed. Gay men in Africa too tend to work for Catholics. The churi h is liberal enough to allow them certain freedoms and access to lifestyles that would get them killed in their community

The church is not officially liberal on that behavior.  But in practice it is.  On just a hunch, I feel like churches that do not require celibacy for priesthood tend to have fewer of these issues.  Because they attract sexually normal men, their issues tend to be more along the lines of adultery by pastors.  Sinful, but legal and consensual affairs with no victims except perhaps spouses.
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2018, 09:04:52 AM »
Catholic pedophiles get jail terms. Catholic priests and bishops get transferred and their victims paid off. What's different between that and what Trump is accused of doing with the babes?
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2018, 03:19:59 PM »
The pope's response https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/europe/pope-francis-abuse-full-letter/.

Thoughts and prayers can sum it up.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2018, 03:28:36 PM »
These are crimes against humanity spanning years and across the globe. Too white and too religious to be taken to the ICC. In Africa, I see Nigeria has reported cases. Any others? Kenya?
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 10:10:42 PM »
Bumping up this story to coincide with Francis visit to Ireland. Damning accusations from a former diplomat.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-francis-senior-church-officials-145611370.html

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As another poster once pointed out, if this were a corporation the CEO would resign.
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2018, 08:41:39 AM »
Kenya Plato you have something personal with Catholicism?
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2018, 01:22:40 PM »

There is merit to this theory
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The abuse scandal had already set off a fierce debate in Catholic journals and across churches. Some critics of the church have blamed the vows of celibacy, arguing that suppressing the human libido can lead to pedophilia and rape


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/world/europe/vatican-power-struggle-bursts-into-open-as-conservatives-pounce.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2018, 01:53:52 PM »
While the focus is on the men, the nuns are not to be outdone.  Torture, abuse, even murder were not off the table, allegedly.   Do celibates warrant closer scrutiny than society has given them so far?
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2018, 02:27:50 PM »
Kenya Plato you have something personal with Catholicism?

Nothing personal but any organization that abuses children have no business existing.

I have seen what sexual abuse can do to people. It one of most terrible crimes against humanity.

I used to admire Catholics because of their charity work. I really admired them. I am a non-believer. I haven't been to church since 1979.

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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2018, 02:38:28 PM »
Kenya Plato you have something personal with Catholicism?

Nothing personal but any organization that abuses children have no business existing.

I have seen what sexual abuse can do to people. It one of most terrible crimes against humanity.

I used to admire Catholics because of their charity work. I really admired them. I am a non-believer. I haven't been to church since 1979.

Ok. Understood
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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2018, 02:56:07 PM »
The pope's response https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/europe/pope-francis-abuse-full-letter/.

Thoughts and prayers can sum it up.

He is a businessman. He knows Ireland capital is sunk. So the only recourse is thoughts and prayers

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Re: Grand jury released 888 pages on Catholic priest sex abuse
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2018, 09:32:58 PM »
?N.Y. Attorney General Is Investigating Potential Cover-Up of Sex Abuse in Catholic Dioceses https://nyti.ms/2NkPjJ6?
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