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Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« on: July 02, 2018, 06:01:18 PM »
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2018, 06:19:05 PM »
Jubilee Constitution:

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13.4: PENALTIES FOR DISCIPLINARY MEASURES
1. In the discharge of its disciplinary mandate the National Executive Committee may:
A. Suspend a member
B. Expel a member
C. Fine a member
D. Remove the whip from a member of committees of Parliament or County
 Assemblies
E. Set aside a decision
F. Review its own decision
G. Substitute or uphold penalty imposed by any disciplinary organ
2. The decision of the NEC shall stand notwithstanding any right of appeal subject only to
Clause 13.4.3.
3. The decision of the NEC shall be final.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 10:10:23 AM »
In short, Jubilee hawako pamoja. :D :D :D :D

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 11:10:32 AM »
In short, Jubilee hawako pamoja. :D :D :D :D
There is a telling article in The Star. It clearly spells out what happened. Basically Uhuru felt that the Kale MPs wanted him to take an oath that he will support Ruto for 2022. Uhuru is bound by The Ichaweri Oath never to vote for a non Kikuyu for the presidency. How can he violate that?

Here is The Star:
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 11:52:57 AM »
signs are all clear that jubilee is back to URP and TNA wings

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 01:39:35 PM »
Tuju has been reduced to putting lipstick on a pig.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 03:09:48 PM »
Remember he is a cabinet minister without portfolio. Working for Jubilee and using public coffers to pay him. :o

Tuju has been reduced to putting lipstick on a pig.

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 03:44:17 PM »
Remember he is a cabinet minister without portfolio. Working for Jubilee and using public coffers to pay him.
Uhuru Kenyatta had better get an Anti-Hubris adviser to identify instances of extreme arrogance and have him avoid or change them. This kind of arrorance never fails to bring down a politician.

In the last few years it has brought down:

1. South Korea - Park Geun-hye - President of South Korea
2. Malaysia - Najib Abdul Razak
3. Indonesia: Abdurrahman Wahid
4. Lithuania: Rolandas Paksas
5. Paraguay: Fernando Lugo
6. Brazil :  Dilma Rousseff
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 06:46:07 PM »
Remember he is a cabinet minister without portfolio. Working for Jubilee and using public coffers to pay him.
Uhuru Kenyatta had better get an Anti-Hubris adviser to identify instances of extreme arrogance and have him avoid or change them. This kind of arrorance never fails to bring down a politician.

In the last few years it has brought down:

1. South Korea - Park Geun-hye - President of South Korea
2. Malaysia - Najib Abdul Razak
3. Indonesia: Abdurrahman Wahid
4. Lithuania: Rolandas Paksas
5. Paraguay: Fernando Lugo
6. Brazil :  Dilma Rousseff

Ukabila has been a pretty effective break on a similar fate for the Kenyan criminal elite.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2018, 06:57:41 PM »
uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 07:44:47 PM »
uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2018, 07:47:00 PM »
Calling off the meeting was a smart move.  Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018.  Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.

uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2018, 07:56:16 PM »
I hope he aint stupid like Raila who killed nasa.You cannot efficiently and effectively govern without parliamentary majority on you call and beck.There are many things Uhuru takes for granted coz Ruto has been doing all the donkey work while he slept.Uhuru has attempted to sober up, ran on his toes and it just bad optics to call of PG.Ruto control parliament for a reason.There is nothing executive can do with hostile parliament and mercurial judiciary.To make matters worse if he fell out with Ruto..hell discover there ruto men everywhere.Uhuru is getting bad advice.Very bad advice.Mama ngina may again have to step up to rescue his Boy
Calling off the meeting was a smart move.  Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018.  Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.

uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2018, 07:57:36 PM »
You dont dump your beautiful young bride for post menaupasal have been..who like rigo manduli won a beauty contest in 2002..16yrs ago.Raila outside Luo nyanza is dead
uhuru is calling for transparency and all that in lifestyle audit..while he is afraid of facing friendly fire.He is going to need lot more shock absorbers going forward.He has allowed political neophytes to drive his agenda and hell lose very badly.Now he is afraid of meeting mps when things are just getting started.One yr from now he will be glad if a third of jubilee mps attends his meetings.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2018, 08:24:52 PM »
Raila made some mistake ahead of and after the elections but "breaking NASA" is not one of them.

I still believe Hassan Omar Sarai should have been told off when he objected to joint primaries. ODM should have put its foot down and demanded joint nominations or the highway. That was even more urgent when Jubilee used openly draconian tactics to force through nominations for all.

In the end Hassan turned out to be what we always said he was: Malaya ya Jubilee.

Getting rid of Wetangula was really locking the stable when the horse was half way out. Wetangula has a secret MoU with Ruto as has Mudavadi. Kalonzo remained non committal. One of the benefits of the handshake was granting Raila access to intelligence that proved his suspicions. Since Wetangula planned to monetize his position as Minority leader - not just against Raila but against Uhuru as well - I see nothing wrong in meeting him half way before he arrives at the planned scene of crime. I think for once Raila took decisive preemptive action that neutralized an enemy.

As for Mudavadi: He is basically an old woman's cunt - good for passing water and nothing else (excuse my French). As long as Ida is around, Raila will continue to rescue him from obscurity. I wonder why none of the rescuers have never seen just how he brings down everyone who associates with him. He has brought down Raila twice (2007 & 2017); Uhuru once (2002). He basically was given the presidency twice - 2002 by Moi and 2013 by Kibaki but could not exploit the tools of state to even come second. So He really brought nothing to NASA except a presence.

Kalonzo brought votes.

I hope he aint stupid like Raila who killed nasa.You cannot efficiently and effectively govern without parliamentary majority on you call and beck.There are many things Uhuru takes for granted coz Ruto has been doing all the donkey work while he slept.Uhuru has attempted to sober up, ran on his toes and it just bad optics to call of PG.Ruto control parliament for a reason.There is nothing executive can do with hostile parliament and mercurial judiciary.To make matters worse if he fell out with Ruto..hell discover there ruto men everywhere.Uhuru is getting bad advice.Very bad advice.Mama ngina may again have to step up to rescue his Boy
Calling off the meeting was a smart move.  Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018.  Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2018, 08:36:23 PM »
You dont dump your beautiful young bride for post menaupasal have been..who like rigo manduli won a beauty contest in 2002..16yrs ago.Raila outside Luo nyanza is dead

In terms of support outside their own constituency, here is how I rate them with 1 as the best

1. Raila Odinga
2. William Ruto
3. Uhuru Kenyatta
4. Kalonzo Musyoka
5. Charity Ngilu
6. Governor Joho
7. Mike Sonko
8. Peter Kenneth
9. Musalia Mudavadi
10. Wetangula

The "menopausal" claim is untested. I think it is a recurring derogatory statement. Pundit and others said this here throughout the first term of Uhuru. It was interchanged with admonishments to retire.

Let's do this Pundit: Since you have claimed that Raila is dead and buried in 2013 and 2017 making it 10 years of speculation) and then watched your candidate resort to stealing to avoid accepting defeat from a fossil, we wait for the actual "menopause" rather than speculate over it for another 5 years. You claimed that you are driven by facts and not speculation. Walk the talk, not so?
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2018, 08:39:18 PM »
Bad workman always blame his tools.If there something Raila can learn from Ruto is how to sema na kutenda.Be dependable.If you commit to do something do it.Ruto managed to unite kalenjin..a tribe like luhya and now has added more small tribes to make huge coalition by being honest leader who does the hard work of leadership.If Ruto promises tp do something considered it done..be it harambee or etc.Those are rare attributes in politics where treachery and lies are the norm..Raila like Uhuru is very lazy.Ruto like Moi before he went senile actually cares about relationship.His son Gideon is so terrible you have to pity Moi.MaDVD is stupid and lazy.Kalonzo is too conceited.
Raila made some mistake ahead of and after the elections but "breaking NASA" is not one of them.

I still believe Hassan Omar Sarai should have been told off when he objected to joint primaries. ODM should have put its foot down and demanded joint nominations or the highway. That was even more urgent when Jubilee used openly draconian tactics to force through nominations for all.

In the end Hassan turned out to be what we always said he was: Malaya ya Jubilee.

Getting rid of Wetangula was really locking the stable when the horse was half way out. Wetangula has a secret MoU with Ruto as has Mudavadi. Kalonzo remained non committal. One of the benefits of the handshake was granting Raila access to intelligence that proved his suspicions. Since Wetangula planned to monetize his position as Minority leader - not just against Raila but against Uhuru as well - I see nothing wrong in meeting him half way before he arrives at the planned scene of crime. I think for once Raila took decisive preemptive action that neutralized an enemy.

As for Mudavadi: He is basically an old woman's cunt - good for passing water and nothing else (excuse my French). As long as Ida is around, Raila will continue to rescue him from obscurity. I wonder why none of the rescuers have never seen just how he brings down everyone who associates with him. He has brought down Raila twice (2007 & 2017); Uhuru once (2002). He basically was given the presidency twice - 2002 by Moi and 2013 by Kibaki but could not exploit the tools of state to even come second. So He really brought nothing to NASA except a presence.

Kalonzo brought votes.

I hope he aint stupid like Raila who killed nasa.You cannot efficiently and effectively govern without parliamentary majority on you call and beck.There are many things Uhuru takes for granted coz Ruto has been doing all the donkey work while he slept.Uhuru has attempted to sober up, ran on his toes and it just bad optics to call of PG.Ruto control parliament for a reason.There is nothing executive can do with hostile parliament and mercurial judiciary.To make matters worse if he fell out with Ruto..hell discover there ruto men everywhere.Uhuru is getting bad advice.Very bad advice.Mama ngina may again have to step up to rescue his Boy
Calling off the meeting was a smart move.  Jubilee is was Ruto's brainchild and vehicle for 2022 and Ouru did not not need it beyond 2017. The last time I checked its 2018.  Why would Ouru care if Jubilee breaks up or not-the sooner the better.

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2018, 08:50:22 PM »
Raila has zero mps in neighberhood gusii and kuria.Zero mp in Bukusu.1 mp in NEP or about the entire cushiteland.1 mp in entire maaland to samburu.He had 3 turkana mps who probably changed.His next bastion outside Luo is coast and he has basically lost all save for a few..1 in kilifi and maybe 2 in msa...all hanging thinking joho will inherit raila..stupidity 101.Raila is kaput.ODM is now Luo party with one gusii,masai,etc tribes.He like gema is trying to ran from previous commitment only to hit deadwall called william ruto
You dont dump your beautiful young bride for post menaupasal have been..who like rigo manduli won a beauty contest in 2002..16yrs ago.Raila outside Luo nyanza is dead

In terms of support outside their own constituency, here is how I rate them with 1 as the best

1. Raila Odinga
2. William Ruto
3. Uhuru Kenyatta
4. Kalonzo Musyoka
5. Charity Ngilu
6. Governor Joho
7. Mike Sonko
8. Peter Kenneth
9. Musalia Mudavadi
10. Wetangula

The "menopausal" claim is untested. I think it is a recurring derogatory statement. Pundit and others said this here throughout the first term of Uhuru. It was interchanged with admonishments to retire.

Let's do this Pundit: Since you have claimed that Raila is dead and buried in 2013 and 2017 making it 10 years of speculation) and then watched your candidate resort to stealing to avoid accepting defeat from a fossil, we wait for the actual "menopause" rather than speculate over it for another 5 years. You claimed that you are driven by facts and not speculation. Walk the talk, not so?

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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2018, 09:35:17 PM »
Let me say we are operating on two different worlds: You believe the election was free fair and reflective of the wishes of the people. On the other hand I share the opinion of the majority at the Supreme Court who ruled that "the elections held on August 8, were not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law. The results are therefore invalid, null and void"(ipsissima verba). Note that the ruling does not specify "Presidential Election" but refers to "the election"

As  a consequence I have never seen the need to hold a debate over fake results reflecting the wishes of an individual a.k.a Davis Chirchir. Should we discuss  why most of the pro Jubilee candidates got 54% or 51% or 41% without exception (in areas they had determined to rig and which were on the list of "Trouble Spots" issued by Nkaissery and Kaparo)???

If you have ever been in competitive fishing; You really can't discuss or debate it with a guy who openly cheated. It is simply not interesting at all.

Kisii was an experiment for Jubilee. They wanted to wipe out ODM and NASA to justify the "It's Only Luos" narrative. That is one of the most shameful chapters of our Nation's history and you are getting on the wrong side of it. They promoted briefcase parties because they knew there would be fire if they make Jubilee candidates win.

ODM has never been stronger in Kuria like 2017. With Machage out, his divisive politics replaced, ODM was sure of victory. But again Uhuru targeted such far flung areas to steal top up votes.

Save this because when Democracy finally returns to Kenya, these will be some of the established facts. Not Chirchir's 54%   
Raila has zero mps in neighberhood gusii and kuria.Zero mp in Bukusu.1 mp in NEP or about the entire cushiteland.1 mp in entire maaland to samburu.He had 3 turkana mps who probably changed.His next bastion outside Luo is coast and he has basically lost all save for a few..1 in kilifi and maybe 2 in msa...all hanging thinking joho will inherit raila..stupidity 101.Raila is kaput.ODM is now Luo party with one gusii,masai,etc tribes.He like gema is trying to ran from previous commitment only to hit deadwall called william ruto
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Re: Jubilee Parliamentary Meeting Cancelled
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2018, 09:39:55 PM »
Chirchir is not that powerful.You sound stupid.Kenya is far from holding electronic elections.We are still very manual.Chirchir cannot electronically rig manually cast and counted votes.
Let me say we are operating on two different worlds: You believe the election was free fair and reflective of the wishes of the people. On the other hand I share the opinion of the majority at the Supreme Court who ruled that "the elections held on August 8, were not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law. The results are therefore invalid, null and void"(ipsissima verba). Note that the ruling does not specify "Presidential Election" but refers to "the election"

As  a consequence I have never seen the need to hold a debate over fake results reflecting the wishes of an individual a.k.a Davis Chirchir. Should we discuss  why most of the pro Jubilee candidates got 54% or 51% or 41% without exception (in areas they had determined to rig and which were on the list of "Trouble Spots" issued by Nkaissery and Kaparo)???

If you have ever been in competitive fishing; You really can't discuss or debate it with a guy who openly cheated. It is simply not interesting at all.

Kisii was an experiment for Jubilee. They wanted to wipe out ODM and NASA to justify the "It's Only Luos" narrative. That is one of the most shameful chapters of our Nation's history and you are getting on the wrong side of it. They promoted briefcase parties because they knew there would be fire if they make Jubilee candidates win.

ODM has never been stronger in Kuria like 2017. With Machage out, his divisive politics replaced, ODM was sure of victory. But again Uhuru targeted such far flung areas to steal top up votes.

Save this because when Democracy finally returns to Kenya, these will be some of the established facts. Not Chirchir's 54%   
Raila has zero mps in neighberhood gusii and kuria.Zero mp in Bukusu.1 mp in NEP or about the entire cushiteland.1 mp in entire maaland to samburu.He had 3 turkana mps who probably changed.His next bastion outside Luo is coast and he has basically lost all save for a few..1 in kilifi and maybe 2 in msa...all hanging thinking joho will inherit raila..stupidity 101.Raila is kaput.ODM is now Luo party with one gusii,masai,etc tribes.He like gema is trying to ran from previous commitment only to hit deadwall called william ruto