Ruto chances for securing gema support just went up in smokes

[Nefertiti]

My mistake: I see Ruto was at 30% in March - before he lines up the Kingis and Luhyas. Raila et al follow from a long distance at 14% 

Ruto emerges most preferred presidential candidate for 2022 polls

Deputy President William Ruto ranks the most preferred Presidential candidate come the 2022 elections, at 30 per cent.  An IPSOS survey has revealed.

Closely following is NASA leader Raila Odinga, Baringo Senator Gideon Moi and Mombasa Governor Ali Hassan Joho at 14 per cent.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001274689/ipsos-dp-ruto-emerges-most-preferred-presidential-candidate-for-2022-polls

Please share the polls, I missed them.

Ruto's chances are excellent - with non-GEMA literally rounded up as he sponsors the Luhya unity - and Jubilee behemoth - he has the stars lined up. Of course GEMA diehards and the Luo will furiously throw last kicks and squirm all the way.

Synovate only opinion polling for 2022 declared him the favourite.

He is your favorite and you can talk about him until cows come home but that does not mean anything to me.n

[Kichwa]

Its too early for the polls.  Ruto's  big challenge is to withstand the outrage on corruption.  The  public opinion"lifestyle audit" does not look good for him.  Ruto has to blame. He has been flaunting his money by giving millions at harambee's ; buying people; appetite for big house in Nairobi and shags, helicopters, aeroplanes, buying politicians with huge amounts, Randarandaring vichochoroni, etc.  He is the poster boy of corruption and even if he survives/escapes/ bribe his way through arrest and jail term, his poll numbers will go down.  Billions of shillings was spent to depict Raila as the devil incarnate and he survived,  I do not know if Ruto will survive the avalanche that is coming his way on corruption.  Politicians have started competing on which one of them is going to make the most scathing/memorable anti-corruption speech. Some are even calling for death penalty.  Its going to be brutal for Ruto.

My mistake: I see Ruto was at 30% in March - before he lines up the Kingis and Luhyas. Raila et al follow from a long distance at 14% 

Ruto emerges most preferred presidential candidate for 2022 polls

Deputy President William Ruto ranks the most preferred Presidential candidate come the 2022 elections, at 30 per cent.  An IPSOS survey has revealed.

Closely following is NASA leader Raila Odinga, Baringo Senator Gideon Moi and Mombasa Governor Ali Hassan Joho at 14 per cent.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001274689/ipsos-dp-ruto-emerges-most-preferred-presidential-candidate-for-2022-polls

Please share the polls, I missed them.

Ruto's chances are excellent - with non-GEMA literally rounded up as he sponsors the Luhya unity - and Jubilee behemoth - he has the stars lined up. Of course GEMA diehards and the Luo will furiously throw last kicks and squirm all the way.

Synovate only opinion polling for 2022 declared him the favourite.

He is your favorite and you can talk about him until cows come home but that does not mean anything to me.n

[Nefertiti]

Ruto will survive it and win. He's smart and adaptive. At least that's my hope cause Ruto is corrupt but competent. Raila, Joho, Gideon, Kaloozer and the rest are corrupt and incompetent. The hue and cry is just the usual panic and ad hominem against the frontrunner.

[Kichwa]

If Ruto survives that means the war on corruption is lost. 

competent in what?, what has he run competently other than stealing like a madman on a mission.

Nobody runs the country by him or herself anyway and the reason for incompetence and corruption, is tribalism and politics of patronage of which Ruto is a master.  If you depend on tribalism and patronage like Ouruto had to then you surround yourself with corrupt and incompetent tribemates and sychants. Personal attention to details or being anal like Ruto does not make one a good CEO.  The reason why Kibaki or Jomo were considered good administrators is because they picked competent people, provided them with a vision and gave them room to do their job.  Moi was an anal micro manager and his administration was chaotic.  I see Ruto being the same, a micromanager who hires incompetent sycophants and will be  is up their ass like a diaper all day long. 

Raila on the other hand may be disorganized in the way he handles his personal affairs but he is very clear on what his overarching message is and will be able to provide his underlings with a clear message/mission of where he want them to take the country.

ANYWAY, I do not see Ruto surviving this  war on corruption because it is tailor made for him. Many people are asking that if he has amassed so much wealth within such a short time then how much more will he steal when he becomes president.

Also, hee would be  a-not-too-benevolent dictator, because he is cruel, mean and he holds grudges. Today at the burial of Muturi's mother, he made a  sarcastic humor about that kurandaranda comment that Ouru made and that shows you that he is not like Moi under Kenyatta who had a thick skin and the patience of Job.   You could see the statement hurt him and he hit back today too soon. That is not good.

Ruto will survive it and win. He's smart and adaptive. At least that's my hope cause Ruto is corrupt but competent. Raila, Joho, Gideon, Kaloozer and the rest are corrupt and incompetent. The hue and cry is just the usual panic and ad hominem against the frontrunner.

[Kichwa]

This kuzuruzura na kutangatanga  shit is getting nasty.  Ouru gets right back to Ruto at 6:29. Even pundit cannot spin this one with a straight face.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

This kuzuruzura na kutangatanga  shit is getting nasty.  Ouru gets right back to Ruto at 6:29. Even pundit cannot spin this one with a straight face.

Amina not just huyu Amina, but waziri wa elimu Amina.  The hustler is huyu William.  He is tired of his buddy for whom he has no more use.

[Nefertiti]

All these leaders are corrupt - especially the Kenyattas - and the reason Ruto is a target is being on the verge of PORK. Raila, Kalonzo, etc faced the music too when they neared power and they never got it. Ruto must be very careful about the entitled dynasties who are loath to let an "outsider" into their circle. I support Ruto because the dynasties don't own Kenya and claiming they are at their own "level" is actually undemocratic. How exactly would sacrificing Ruto end corruption? Uhuru as a toddler was already a billionaire from loot before Ruto was born; same as Gideon. Joho is said to be a major drug dealer listed by the FBI. Corruption started with the Kenyattas and the Mois and they are the root of it. It's cheap propaganda that Ruto is the most corrupt.

Ruto has a record of performance. As Asst Minister under Moi. As MP on CDF only 2nd after PK. As Min under NARA in Agric and High Education. The way he has run circles around his bitter and inept opponents. Jubilee has literally run on URP manifesto with SGR and infra projects. You can't make up these things. Now compare and contrast this with Kalonzo. Or Gideon. Or Madvd. Or Joho. These men actually have incompetence, poor performance and failure in common. Anyone wanting their "leadership" needs to be examined. Why would you want anyone but the best for PORK? What we need is for our GDP to grow - and we know infra has a big dividend down the line especially in the era of the cheap Chinese capital and mean building machine. Ruto will fuata Uhuru nyayo and complete roads, railway, ports, housing, whatnot. That's what Kenya needs at this juncture not ideology and "message" with mediocre execution like Raila.

I agree with you Ruto is not guaranteed victory - however unlike you I like his chances.

If Ruto survives that means the war on corruption is lost. 

competent in what?, what has he run competently other than stealing like a madman on a mission.

Nobody runs the country by him or herself anyway and the reason for incompetence and corruption, is tribalism and politics of patronage of which Ruto is a master.  If you depend on tribalism and patronage like Ouruto had to then you surround yourself with corrupt and incompetent tribemates and sychants. Personal attention to details or being anal like Ruto does not make one a good CEO.  The reason why Kibaki or Jomo were considered good administrators is because they picked competent people, provided them with a vision and gave them room to do their job.  Moi was an anal micro manager and his administration was chaotic.  I see Ruto being the same, a micromanager who hires incompetent sycophants and will be  is up their ass like a diaper all day long. 

Raila on the other hand may be disorganized in the way he handles his personal affairs but he is very clear on what his overarching message is and will be able to provide his underlings with a clear message/mission of where he want them to take the country.

ANYWAY, I do not see Ruto surviving this  war on corruption because it is tailor made for him. Many people are asking that if he has amassed so much wealth within such a short time then how much more will he steal when he becomes president.

Also, hee would be  a-not-too-benevolent dictator, because he is cruel, mean and he holds grudges. Today at the burial of Muturi's mother, he made a  sarcastic humor about that kurandaranda comment that Ouru made and that shows you that he is not like Moi under Kenyatta who had a thick skin and the patience of Job.   You could see the statement hurt him and he hit back today too soon. That is not good.

Ruto will survive it and win. He's smart and adaptive. At least that's my hope cause Ruto is corrupt but competent. Raila, Joho, Gideon, Kaloozer and the rest are corrupt and incompetent. The hue and cry is just the usual panic and ad hominem against the frontrunner.

[Nefertiti]

Despite holding senior government and leadership positions for years - you will struggle bigtime to list Kalonzo or Madvd or Gideon's achievements. And someone who claims to be a patriot can contemplate an incompetent fool like Gideon or Madvd for PORK. Joho has consistently scored dismally as MP and Governor. I think he just recently beat his fellow drug dealer and D student Sonko. This is Ruto's "competition". I'm glad if they have Mutua cause at least he comes close as an alternative. His lack of political network compared to Ruto of course is something else. Chap Chap has 1 MP in all of Ukambani.

These abhorrent options - and the Brooklyn bridge called fighting corruption - the dynasties have a stiffer wall to scale than Ruto.

That's for Ruto's chances.

[Kichwa]

When did meritocracy come to Kenya.

Despite holding senior government and leadership positions for years - you will struggle bigtime to list Kalonzo or Madvd or Gideon's achievements. And someone who claims to be a patriot can contemplate an incompetent fool like Gideon or Madvd for PORK. Joho has consistently scored dismally as MP and Governor. I think he just recently beat his fellow drug dealer and D student Sonko. This is Ruto's "competition". I'm glad if they have Mutua cause at least he comes close as an alternative. His lack of political network compared to Ruto of course is something else. Chap Chap has 1 MP in all of Ukambani.

These abhorrent options - and the Brooklyn bridge called fighting corruption - the dynasties have a stiffer wall to scale than Ruto.
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That's for Ruto's chances.

[Nefertiti]

I stand corrected. 

When did meritocracy come to Kenya.

Despite holding senior government and leadership positions for years - you will struggle bigtime to list Kalonzo or Madvd or Gideon's achievements. And someone who claims to be a patriot can contemplate an incompetent fool like Gideon or Madvd for PORK. Joho has consistently scored dismally as MP and Governor. I think he just recently beat his fellow drug dealer and D student Sonko. This is Ruto's "competition". I'm glad if they have Mutua cause at least he comes close as an alternative. His lack of political network compared to Ruto of course is something else. Chap Chap has 1 MP in all of Ukambani.

These abhorrent options - and the Brooklyn bridge called fighting corruption - the dynasties have a stiffer wall to scale than Ruto.
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That's for Ruto's chances.

[Globalcitizen12]

List ruto achievements in all offices he has held

[Nefertiti]

Read up there I just did it. Then list your candidate's achievements if you got one. Starting with Uhuru the looter-in-chief or is it Gideon?

List ruto achievements in all offices he has held

[RV Pundit]

Uhuru wont function a day in politics without Ruto..Ruto has to hold his hand..When Ruto abandoned him in KANU..he basically ran to Kibaki.UhuRuto are joined in the hip and only fool thinks they can be seperated.Their friendship is to extend Uhuru can make jokes at Ruto publicly.That is not sign of thawing relationship.Raila is too senile to realize Uhuru is giving thru pass to Ruto.

[Globalcitizen12]

The person who made uhuru was moi..without moi uhuru would be still fighting to get recognized..in 2007 when gema used uhuru to avenge kikuyu displacement the gema oligarchs deicded he was the next president ..kibaki did more for uhuru than anyone he appointed uhuru to fiance ministry and to be deputy prime Minister..kibaki was and is still uhurus God father..kibaki brought ruto to gema side after scuttling odm..so kibaki did more for ruto than moi..fuck if ruto is kijana ya mkono of gema oligarchs..ruto has 2 years to reigb his greed or be killed..ruto terminal illnesz is workifn against him..no one can respect a man that abuses his wife and so violent..ruto is a flawed man..a fucking virus ..he respresents what is rotten with kalenjins..he is a very vengeful trigger happy moron

[Kichwa]

Kibaki let Ouru win-that was not only his god-son but a fellow uthathamaki.  Uthamaki on the other hand will not let Ruto win. There is absolutely nothing in Ruto's presiddency for Uthamaki. In fact Ruto is their worst nightmare.

The person who made uhuru was moi..without moi uhuru would be still fighting to get recognized..in 2007 when gema used uhuru to avenge kikuyu displacement the gema oligarchs deicded he was the next president ..kibaki did more for uhuru than anyone he appointed uhuru to fiance ministry and to be deputy prime Minister..kibaki was and is still uhurus God father..kibaki brought ruto to gema side after scuttling odm..so kibaki did more for ruto than moi..fuck if ruto is kijana ya mkono of gema oligarchs..ruto has 2 years to reigb his greed or be killed..ruto terminal illnesz is workifn against him..no one can respect a man that abuses his wife and so violent..ruto is a flawed man..a fucking virus ..he respresents what is rotten with kalenjins..he is a very vengeful trigger happy moron

[Kichwa]

This is real my friend, ourto is NO MORE.  You remind me Bagdad Bob, but more so of Gilgamesh after his sidekick Enkidu died.  Gilgamesh refused to accept that Enkidu had died and ordered that the body not to be buried.  However when the body of Enkidu starting rotting, the evidence that Enkidu was dead became overwhelming and Gilgamesh accepted that his sidekick was no more.  Sooner or later you too will accept that the relationship between Ouru and Ruto is Kaput.  Start thinking of Plan B and how to spin it.

Uhuru wont function a day in politics without Ruto..Ruto has to hold his hand..When Ruto abandoned him in KANU..he basically ran to Kibaki.UhuRuto are joined in the hip and only fool thinks they can be seperated.Their friendship is to extend Uhuru can make jokes at Ruto publicly.That is not sign of thawing relationship.Raila is too senile to realize Uhuru is giving thru pass to Ruto.

[Kichwa]

The rumor has it that he was amazed at just how much Ruto has stolen. Ouru explains that his fear of Raila denying him a second term gave him no choice but to turn the other way as Ruto looted with reckless abandon.  Then to add insult to injury, Ruto wanted to make him a lame-duct president by inheriting his GEMA base as if he were dead.

This kuzuruzura na kutangatanga  shit is getting nasty.  Ouru gets right back to Ruto at 6:29. Even pundit cannot spin this one with a straight face.

Amina not just huyu Amina, but waziri wa elimu Amina.  The hustler is huyu William.  He is tired of his buddy for whom he has no more use.

[RV Pundit]

Kichwa - Ruto and his close allies will be first one to know when Uhuru dumps him. There is really no way you can keep such things secret.

Uhuru wont function a day in politics without Ruto..Ruto has to hold his hand..When Ruto abandoned him in KANU..he basically ran to Kibaki.UhuRuto are joined in the hip and only fool thinks they can be seperated.Their friendship is to extend Uhuru can make jokes at Ruto publicly.That is not sign of thawing relationship.Raila is too senile to realize Uhuru is giving thru pass to Ruto.

[Globalcitizen12]

Deni ya ruto will be paid by ichungwa na gathoni was muchomba. Uhuru knows ruto like raila is unsellable in Central..by 2020 ruto will be history

[Kichwa]

I think they have read the writing on the wall but it is not really in their interest  to come out and acknowledge it right now. Ruto's sarcastic remarks at the funeral was a bad miscalculation because Ouru will only dig in if Ruto goes at him that way.  I think ruto's best strategy right now is to play along as if nothing is wrong and hope ouru will not escalate things, hang in there hopefully survive the corruption onslaught that is coming Ruto's way. Meanwhile he should hunt somewhere else because the Mt. Kenya Mp's have read the message on the wall and will avoid him like the plague from now on. Ruto without centro is not viable as a candidate.  They need to think URP right now. Jubilee like NASA have out lived their usefulness. They remind me of those solid rocket boosters.

Kichwa - Ruto and his close allies will be first one to know when Uhuru dumps him. There is really no way you can keep such things secret.

Uhuru wont function a day in politics without Ruto..Ruto has to hold his hand..When Ruto abandoned him in KANU..he basically ran to Kibaki.UhuRuto are joined in the hip and only fool thinks they can be seperated.Their friendship is to extend Uhuru can make jokes at Ruto publicly.That is not sign of thawing relationship.Raila is too senile to realize Uhuru is giving thru pass to Ruto.