vooke you can note without hard knock Tesla, other auto* startups are the niche 30-year-old Acura, Infiniti, etc - owned by the big kahunas kina Honda, Nissan. Then you have autonomous navigation startups - Waymo, Cruise, Otto - all owned or quickly snatched by the big boys. The driver of innovation is rarely proper vision like Tesla's but profit. The Googles only take on profitable projects, it's the startups that break new ground and force them to adapt. Now you follow that big companies leading research and innovation is a pipe dream. Unlike popular belief inventions are haphazard and not confined to big air-conditioned labs. Most significant advances come from garage or dorm startups. EV or autonomous navigation or mobile fleet is not new, the big boys avoided the cost until the startups like Tesla made it inevitable.