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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2017, 06:48:59 AM »
NOT having elections also requires a campaign.  What I heard from NASA all weekend was that they are not going to campaign if certain things are not done. I guess they are doing both campaigns simultaneously but still open to both options at the appropriate time.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/US-EU-Envoys-Kenya-Repeat-Polls/1056-4121456-ymnm92/index.html


The 14 envoys spoke of their concerns after a meeting with the IEBC leadership headed by chairman Wafula Chebukati, with commissioners Consolata Maina, Roselyn Akombe and Richard Kurgat present.



If that makes you feel good then fine, however, maybe I am missing something but I do not understand why NASA campaigning elicits so much excitement in Jubilee.  NASA does not need to be told to campaign to campaign in Western because it  needs its base fired up whether to vote or to stay home. Also,  after Ouruto toured western, it was expected for  NASA to go over and  pour water over the tumbocrats revolution that ouruto was trying to promote in that tour.  It was amazing to see ouruto surrounded by losers. Who is the political genius advising them to go into a region and surround themselves with the political losers from that region.

A negro who campaigns telling you he won't campaign is joking

'Irreducible minimums' and 'abandoning' option were sacrificed on the altar on EU,North America, and Australia visas
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2017, 07:28:36 AM »
Instead of ambiguous terms like "next to zero" kindly state the exact figure. I can't contradict "next to zero".
I missed the "news items saying the same thing". Were the news items speaking of the same gonads or agreed with what you are now peddling or all of the above?
His abandoning emergency exit :
  • What was the emergency exit before it was shut
  • Who shut it
  • How is it shut?
  • What shut it?
[suddenly he lands in Western right after someone pushed some buttons..[/b]The Western trip was planned an announced along with all the other trips and the police notified well in advance. Same as Jubilee / Uhuru. This is intended to avoid clashes over locations and between supporters. Review both and then explain why you think he only honored a prearranged series of rallies after his buttons were pushed.
If you need further proof, watch how much of NASWA's 'irreducible minimum' will make it to 26th I should watch for evidence you are relying on to allege something only that that evidence is not available until after the 26th?

What evidence do you need? What would satisfy you?

Before this statement we had two news items saying the same thing. Then the statement confining as much.
My negro you in denial.

Babu is stuck. His 'abandoning' emergency exit is wide shut.

How many times did Babu step out of NBO in September? Next to zero...then [suddenly he lands in Western right after someone pushed some buttons..[/b].ok it's a coincidence.

If you need further proof, watch how much of NASWA's 'irreducible minimum' will make it to 26th
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2017, 10:02:40 AM »
Yesterday I grabbed The PeopleLater,I saw a similar headline with Nationforced
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2017, 10:47:17 AM »
Yesterday I grabbed The People and the headline spoke of pressure on Babu to campaign. I got the pdf and shared the relevant pages here.
I wrote crap on it. You admit it is NIS propaganda but you still peddle it anyway because you say:

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Later,I saw a similar headline with Nation
What is the difference between The People and the Nation? If the story has NIS origins, does it stop being so when it is published by Kiboro's Nation? The Nation has returned to printing close up photos of Raila sweating so as to cast him as a monster. The Nation made many "errors" in reporting on the envoy's letter - basically saying the envoys were supporting the Uhuru Cheating Laws!

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Babu has been forced by the diplomats to campaign and remain on the ballot.
I have posted evidence of Raila on the campaign trail. I have counted and compared the number of campaigns by both Uhuru and Raila against presence in Nairobi receiving delegations or holding press conferences and found same (not similar) numbers. What is missing is NASA saying "Jubilee is not campaigning" when Uhuru is holding press conferences or holding meetings with foreign dignitaries (who also meet Raila).

What I asked you is to translate "Close to Zero" into a working numeral I can work with.

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Previously, it was clear he had zero intent of going to the ballot,and he was not campaigning. Not any more.
What changed. Please be clear and state what changed. To be specific:

1. Post evidence of him (Raila) saying that he will not be on the ballot
2. Post evidence of him saying he (now) will be on the ballot (with reference to 1. above)
you have a third option to continue peddling the lie but with knowledge that you are unable to prove your LIES

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Then along came the statement. I have shared the relevant parts that are clearly directed at NASWA. You still in denial. What evidence do you need?
I too posted the statement here and on Twitter. I do not see how that is supporting your claims. I do not see any threats to impose travel bans on Raila. I do not see any ultimatums to campaign. Neither do I see any evidence of any change of behavior by Raila in september (which you alleged he never left Nairobi!).

So who is in denial?

1. Evidence of ultimatum - ZERO
2. Evidence of Campaign stoppage - Zero
3. Evidence of Campaign restarting after stoppage = Zero
4. Evidence of travel ban threats = Zero
5. Evidence of no campaigns in September = Zero

Note that Raila attended several funerals in Western including that of the sister of George Khaniri in Vihiga.

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If you think the People and Nation are spewing propaganda, and that I misread the statement,be still and watch what happens over the next three weeks
They are Jubilee mouthpieces

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1. NASWA will sit with IEBC and negotiate
Planned and scheduled. The next one was announced a few hours before you posted this
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Until they are met, the demonstrations will go on which BTW is the engine of the Irreducible Minimums. They will be called off only if there are productive talks aimed at meeting those minimums. On the contrary after next week, NASA will now hold them DAILY.

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3. Babu will be on the ballot. He will not abandon the race
Like we have been saying, he has never spoken about being on or off. I am awaiting your evidence of his saying he will be off etc. So far you have manufactured something and tried to push it in Raila's mouth. So we are clear: The NASA position is that unless there are reforms, there will be no elections on the 26th.

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listen to yourself.

Jubilee alone knows the laws are a waste of time! But somehow NASA is getting ulcers over those amendments. Please pay attention to details and stop acting like our local pundit who no longer pays heed to facts.

For NASA the amendments are a Jubilee gift to help push the original agenda.
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2017, 10:53:18 AM »
I am getting hell with this. I seem to always miss the quote button
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2017, 11:30:01 AM »
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2017, 05:13:15 PM »
Yesterday I grabbed The PeopleLater,I saw a similar headline with Nationforced by the diplomats to campaign and remain on the ballot.

Previously, it was clear he had zero intent of going to the ballot,and he was not campaigning. Not any more.



It wasn't that clear, was it?
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2017, 07:43:01 PM »
Yesterday I grabbed The PeopleLater,I saw a similar headline with Nationforced by the diplomats to campaign and remain on the ballot.

Previously, it was clear he had zero intent of going to the ballot,and he was not campaigning. Not any more.



It wasn't that clear, was it?
Nope
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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2017, 12:55:20 PM »
vooke

Google and read the meaning of RES JUDICATA then get back to me on why you want us to keep running around the same tree ad infinitum
Nope
It wasn't that clear, was it?

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Re: They have him by his gonads
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2017, 04:16:40 PM »
vooke

Google and read the meaning of RES JUDICATA then get back to me on why you want us to keep running around the same tree ad infinitum
Nope
It wasn't that clear, was it?


Be easy negro,
It had yet to hit me the full implication of the clause. Now that I know, I try to pick Babu's brains.

2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.