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Re: What if Chebu drops dead like now now?
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2017, 07:56:19 AM »
Chebukati attempt to ran one man show is responsible for the proposed amendments.laws are not made in vacuum but to solve real problems

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Re: What if Chebu drops dead like now now?
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2017, 02:09:46 PM »
Chebukati attempt to ran one man show is responsible for the proposed amendments.laws are not made in vacuum but to solve real problems
Oh God! These lies you tell... are you ever ashamed? Ruto will be cut to size in time. Kenya is greater than one man. The use of State power and resources to limit democracy has limitations.

The sad thing is that you are so ignorant about history for me to refer you to people who tried to do what he is doing.

In 1965 - 66 Tom Mboya became Kenyatta's chief rigging agent. less than two years after he rigged defecting MPs out of office, he was dead. Eaten by the same people he worked for. They would later invade his wealth and everything they gave him and share it between themselves. They took over the Tom Mboya Bus service and merged it with the tiny OTC Bus. Houses in nairobi he bought were seized and given to Kikuyu MPs.

Now Ruto is not even an eighth of the man Mboya was! To illustrate to you (and please read the Hansard which is free on google books) Moi could not speak in front of Mboya. The likes of Kibaki etc trembled in his presence and above all, he tamed Charles Njonjo by usurping the powers of the AG with Njonjo even denied access to parliament (which he only accessed much later!)

Ruto is just tolerated because they need RV votes to reduce the urge to rig Kibaki style.

 

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Re: What if Chebu drops dead like now now?
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2017, 02:28:59 PM »
You and kichwa are now seeing Ruto everywhere. Poleni. The man just got started!

Now let get back to this law targetting Chebukati. I think Chebukati conduct after supreme court when he lost his cool and tried to pass the buck everywhere - only for full judgement to indict him - sack people and try to usurp the secretariat - is responsible for this attempt to clip his powers.

The intention is clear..target Chebukati.

Oh God! These lies you tell... are you ever ashamed? Ruto will be cut to size in time. Kenya is greater than one man. The use of State power and resources to limit democracy has limitations.

The sad thing is that you are so ignorant about history for me to refer you to people who tried to do what he is doing.

In 1965 - 66 Tom Mboya became Kenyatta's chief rigging agent. less than two years after he rigged defecting MPs out of office, he was dead. Eaten by the same people he worked for. They would later invade his wealth and everything they gave him and share it between themselves. They took over the Tom Mboya Bus service and merged it with the tiny OTC Bus. Houses in nairobi he bought were seized and given to Kikuyu MPs.

Now Ruto is not even an eighth of the man Mboya was! To illustrate to you (and please read the Hansard which is free on google books) Moi could not speak in front of Mboya. The likes of Kibaki etc trembled in his presence and above all, he tamed Charles Njonjo by usurping the powers of the AG with Njonjo even denied access to parliament (which he only accessed much later!)

Ruto is just tolerated because they need RV votes to reduce the urge to rig Kibaki style.

 



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Re: What if Chebu drops dead like now now?
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2017, 03:32:27 PM »
Do not underestimate our intelligence bro.

You and kichwa are now seeing Ruto everywhere. Poleni. The man just got started!

Now let get back to this law targetting Chebukati. I think Chebukati conduct after supreme court when he lost his cool and tried to pass the buck everywhere - only for full judgement to indict him - sack people and try to usurp the secretariat - is responsible for this attempt to clip his powers.

The intention is clear..target Chebukati.
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Re: What if Chebu drops dead like now now?
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2017, 03:56:11 PM »
I agree with you that Ruto's woes are just starting. We are not the only ones concerned about Ruto's mission to take this country back to Moi era with him at the helm.  The Gema Mafia is also concerned about him but they need him for now to deliver the votes. The sloppiness and the arrogant raw kifuaness with which this legislation is being pursued is very Rutesque.  Ruto never supported this Katiba and he is intent on destroying it. Ruto is peaking too soon for the 2022 presidential campaign. The campaign to cut him down will begin by the GEMA around Ouru and they will find a lot of allies outside Gema. We are in this for the long haul and we will get our Kitaba back the way it was. Ruto may have the money and the temporary state power he now enjoys to believe he is in cloud 9 but he cannot sustain it for the long haul.

Do not underestimate our intelligence bro.

You and kichwa are now seeing Ruto everywhere. Poleni. The man just got started!

Now let get back to this law targetting Chebukati. I think Chebukati conduct after supreme court when he lost his cool and tried to pass the buck everywhere - only for full judgement to indict him - sack people and try to usurp the secretariat - is responsible for this attempt to clip his powers.

The intention is clear..target Chebukati.
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Re: What if Chebu drops dead like now now?
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2017, 04:07:10 PM »
Only death can stop Ruto unstoppable march to statehouse. After we are done with Raila in two weeks time - Ruto will truly be the political colossus we've never seen before in this country - Ruto will deploy BILLIONS & BRUTE force to bury any resistance. Ruto knows the deal he need to cut is with Kenyatta family. There is nothing like GEMA mafia. We have Kenyatta family firmly in control of GEMA. You guys have real problem reading our politics. Ruto as brilliant strategist with lots of raw power experience gained in Moi regime understands that...that is why Ruto is grovelling before Kenyatta family. The deal to be made is simple...Kenyatta family versus Ruto. The rest are already handled. The unfinished business is who Kenyatta will pick as their proxy for DPORK. Of course he'll be figure head but real power will continue to be wield by Uhuru Kenyatta. That is the proposal Uhuru cannot refuse. He'll be made Jubilee SUPREME LEADER in the mould of Iran Khameini. And Ruto like Moi will swear to follow Uhuru's Nyayo.

You guys in 10 yrs have been unable to handle GEMA machinery - Ruto has managed to squeeze 50% in 2013-2017 and now he is looking at 70% - all the key powerful folks right now are Ruto men. That is why you're talking about Ruto 24-7 because for first time you've DP with REAL POWERs. All it took was for Ruto to convince Uhuru to quit hawking milk - and make 30B from SGR :) :) that was going to Wanjigi is "Consultancy fee" andboy he has now tasted what real power is...not selling packet of milk.

I agree with you that Ruto's woes are just starting. We are not the only ones concerned about Ruto's mission to take this country back to Moi era with him at the helm.  The Gema Mafia is also concerned about him but they need him for now to deliver the votes. The sloppiness and the arrogant raw kifuaness with which this legislation is being pursued is very Rutesque.  Ruto never supported this Katiba and he is intent on destroying it. Ruto is peaking too soon for the 2022 presidential campaign. The campaign to cut him down will begin by the GEMA around Ouru and they will find a lot of allies outside Gema. We are in this for the long haul and we will get our Kitaba back the way it was. Ruto may have the money and the temporary state power he now enjoys to believe he is in cloud 9 but he cannot sustain it for the long haul.