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Public Participation in Legislation
« on: September 30, 2017, 12:40:44 AM »
http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/97000/
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Re: Public Participation in Legislation
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 05:23:43 AM »
This will be done so don't worry

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Re: Public Participation in Legislation
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2017, 06:37:56 AM »
Ate public participation kitu gani???
We are the law..Mta do???

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Re: Public Participation in Legislation
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 12:29:54 PM »
This will be done so don't worry
When? Before or after passage?

If you take the 14 days for public participation that brings your law's passage and signature and gazettement well after the elections. Good luck!
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Re: Public Participation in Legislation
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2017, 12:36:06 PM »
Ate public participation kitu gani???
We are the law..Mta do???
Every law passed by either parliament, senate or county assemblies that skipped the public participation portion has been nullified on application to the high court. Only the Court of Appeal under threats from Uhuru allowed the IEBC to sanction non participation in single sourcing. It is a judgment that will:
1. Haunt Uthamaki when in position from next year
2. Cost those judges their jobs and careers
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Re: Public Participation in Legislation
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2017, 02:55:22 PM »
Laws passed by the roadside are never properly vetted so they become an impediment to progress. Changing the law to fit a situation is a horrible idea

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Re: Public Participation in Legislation
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2017, 03:58:23 PM »

There is supposed to be a 14 day period for public to prepare for participation.  They are reducing that time for public preparation to one day.  The idea is to deny the public time to prepare for its participation.  It is the argument of process again. The public needs time to read the proposed law, do some research and prepare a response.  Denying the public the time to prepare for its participation is essentially a denial of time to participate.  This is how dictators think and explains how Moi came up with mlolongo. Dictators hate process because that is how their shenanigans is exposed. It is the same argument we had in the 2017 presidential election petition. They cannot understand why the court should worry about the transmission when they already have the "results". The arrogance of power has no shame.

Ate public participation kitu gani???
We are the law..Mta do???
Every law passed by either parliament, senate or county assemblies that skipped the public participation portion has been nullified on application to the high court. Only the Court of Appeal under threats from Uhuru allowed the IEBC to sanction non participation in single sourcing. It is a judgment that will:
1. Haunt Uthamaki when in position from next year
2. Cost those judges their jobs and careers
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza