While Kigali ban private cars from CBD, morons in Nairobi ban public transport

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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/15/sonko-bans-psvs-from-nairobi-cbd-changes-from-september-20_c1636246

Passenger service vehicles will no longer have access to the Nairobi city centre from September 20.

Mike Sonko's administration has also revoked all Gazette notices and letters that allocated pick-up and drop-off points in the CBD.



http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Rwanda-ban-private-cars-Kigali-ease-congestion/4003122-4084974-4mp0fj/index.html

Rwanda plans to phase out the use of private cars in the capital Kigali and instead use public transport as a way of curbing rising congestion.

However, the move has been met with misgivings even as firms see it as a business opportunity. One of the measures to discourage the use of private cars is to restrict street parking.

[GeeMail]

When working backwards with 54% you have no choice but to make such decisions.

[gout]

It is impossible to effect those directives in 5 days. This can only be through well thought out 100 years development plan which will involve buying out and demolitions in the CBD which is largely a mission impossible.

[GeeMail]

It is impossible to effect those directives in 5 days. This can only be through well thought out 100 years development plan which will involve buying out and demolitions in the CBD which is largely a mission impossible.

Does Sonko still own Buruburu mats? He knows this can't work. He will be needing votes if petition goes through so expect to see this roadside directive reversed pronto.

[gout]

I hear he has 'donated' them to Sonko Rescue Team NGO.

It is impossible to effect those directives in 5 days. This can only be through well thought out 100 years development plan which will involve buying out and demolitions in the CBD which is largely a mission impossible.

Does Sonko still own Buruburu mats? He knows this can't work. He will be needing votes if petition goes through so expect to see this roadside directive reversed pronto.

[RV Pundit]

This is good start. The polythenic bag ban and work done by Sonko on garbage is starting to pay off. Nairobi is cleaner. They need to work on raw sewage and drainage now.

[Mr Mansfield.]

We need light rails,underground trains and businesses moving out of the CBD  to solve this mess,

Without Prejudice.

[Nefertiti]

Yes indeed. With concession financing this is doable. 100B Kes is enough to build metro -or even trumps - in and out of CBD - and snake throughout the suburbs and satellite towns. That way you can ban street parking because people would have choice. And allow only private parking and high-class double deckers in CBD. Currently how do you expect people to get to their offices?

We need light rails,underground trains and businesses moving out of the CBD  to solve this mess,

Without Prejudice.

[RV Pundit]

Upgrading the current old line to electric SGR that rans most of the day would be good start.

Yes indeed. With concession financing this is doable. 100B Kes is enough to build metro -or even trumps - in and out of CBD - and snake throughout the suburbs and satellite towns. That way you can ban street parking because people would have choice. And allow only private parking and high-class double deckers in CBD. Currently how do you expect people to get to their offices?

[Nefertiti]

The governors have mandate over the municipalities let us watch what they make of it. They have massive room for improvement - complete with ability to borrow - for capital investments - transport & sanitation top the list.

Upgrading the current old line to electric SGR that rans most of the day would be good start.

Yes indeed. With concession financing this is doable. 100B Kes is enough to build metro -or even trumps - in and out of CBD - and snake throughout the suburbs and satellite towns. That way you can ban street parking because people would have choice. And allow only private parking and high-class double deckers in CBD. Currently how do you expect people to get to their offices?

[Mr Mansfield.]

Yes indeed. With concession financing this is doable. 100B Kes is enough to build metro -or even trumps - in and out of CBD - and snake throughout the suburbs and satellite towns. That way you can ban street parking because people would have choice. And allow only private parking and high-class double deckers in CBD. Currently how do you expect people to get to their offices?

We need light rails,underground trains and businesses moving out of the CBD  to solve this mess,

Without Prejudice.

Nairobi is fed by six major highways..That is Langata road,Waiyaki way,Ngong road,Mombasa road,Thika road and Jogoo road...If you count the number of vehicles vs the size of the CBD,Its difficult to do away with traffic jam even if you do away with matatus.I think the solution is have a light rail snake around towns like Thika,Ruiru,Kikuyu,Kitengela,Syokimau,Utawala and get about 500,000 passengers out of the roads,

A light rail costs about $15MN per KM,that will be about $1.5BN if we do 100KMs,There needs to be a partnership between Nairobi county and national gov to get a concessional loan to build this and pay the money in 20-30 year periods,

It can be a good start since you will have businesses spread across major train stations,that can be a good start before we start building subways,Otherwise banning matatus doesn't really help that much,

Without Prejudice.

[RV Pundit]

But isn't current comutter rail-line owned by Kenya Railways - a parastal - so basically they need to find financing (with GoK as it's guarantor) - and make this profitable. GoK can subsidize the cost if it won't be profitable enough to repay for itself. We went the concession way and that failed...so for now let Kenya Railway upgrade the current line to modern electrified high speed comutter train service...and find a way to make some profit out of it.

Nairobi is fed by six major highways..That is Langata road,Waiyaki way,Ngong road,Mombasa road,Thika road and Jogoo road...If you count the number of vehicles vs the size of the CBD,Its difficult to do away with traffic jam even if you do away with matatus.I think the solution is have a light rail snake around towns like Thika,Ruiru,Kikuyu,Kitengela,Syokimau,Utawala and get about 500,000 passengers out of the roads,

A light rail costs about $15MN per KM,that will be about $1.5BN if we do 100KMs,There needs to be a partnership between Nairobi county and national gov to get a concessional loan to build this and pay the money in 20-30 year periods,

It can be a good start since you will have businesses spread across major train stations,that can be a good start before we start building subways,Otherwise banning matatus doesn't really help that much,

Without Prejudice.

[Mr Mansfield.]

they need to find financing (with GoK as it's guarantor).

Thats what i meant not the RVR type of thing,

Without Prejudice.