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Offline RV Pundit

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Elections will happen on 30 days and you are asking for structural dialog.

The only changes IEBC will constitute is those that SCOK will order - which may come too late because the 4 rogue SCOK judges are still burning the midnight oil trying to string an argument in the precedent setting annullment of election that everyone declared free, fair and credible.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001254580/nasa-will-not-hold-any-casual-meetings-with-iebc-says-raila-odinga

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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2017, 10:19:42 AM »
Pundit

Get it in your brain:

1. Nusu Mkate talks (unlike what Ruto is telling you) will not (if ever) be held under the IEBC
2. NASA has written to the IEBC with specific demands which it needs well documented responses not propaganda; That can only take place in a formal meeting with a clear agenda (Structured talks)

Ruto is running scared of Government of National Unity. Is there any reason why a Deputy President would be against PEACE?

You can be sure I have no time for GEMA thieves but I also do not want war
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 10:25:21 AM »
Keep waiting for structured talks - while the clock is ticking to 17th - 4 more weeks.

Sorry I don't see what leverage you have to initiate NUSU MKate talks. Ruto and I don't want NUSU Mkate . What for? Jubilee has absolute dominance of senate & parliament. We have dominance of MCAS and Governors. We have peace. Why on earth would Jubilee share power with NASA.

Jubilee will form an inclusive GoK of all people who subscribe to Jubilee and are loyal UhuRuto.

Ruto himself has been responsible for making Jubilee the success it is.

Pundit

Get it in your brain:

1. Nusu Mkate talks (unlike what Ruto is telling you) will not (if ever) be held under the IEBC
2. NASA has written to the IEBC with specific demands which it needs well documented responses not propaganda; That can only take place in a formal meeting with a clear agenda (Structured talks)

Ruto is running scared of Government of National Unity. Is there any reason why a Deputy President would be against PEACE?

You can be sure I have no time for GEMA thieves but I also do not want war


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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 10:28:52 AM »
Differentiate between talks to get IEBC to undertake reforms and Nusu Mkate. Come back when you know the difference.

Keep waiting for structured talks - while the clock is ticking to 17th - 4 more weeks.

Sorry I don't see what leverage you have to initiate NUSU MKate talks. Ruto and I don't want NUSU Mkate . What for? Jubilee has absolute dominance of senate & parliament. We have dominance of MCAS and Governors. We have peace. Why on earth would Jubilee share power with NASA.

Jubilee will form an inclusive GoK of all people who subscribe to Jubilee and are loyal UhuRuto.

Ruto himself has been responsible for making Jubilee the success it is.

Pundit

Get it in your brain:

1. Nusu Mkate talks (unlike what Ruto is telling you) will not (if ever) be held under the IEBC
2. NASA has written to the IEBC with specific demands which it needs well documented responses not propaganda; That can only take place in a formal meeting with a clear agenda (Structured talks)

Ruto is running scared of Government of National Unity. Is there any reason why a Deputy President would be against PEACE?

You can be sure I have no time for GEMA thieves but I also do not want war

... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 10:37:17 AM »
The only folks talking about a coalition governemnt are Jubilidiots.  Nobody wants to share government with murderous criminals and scoundrels.  Is this too hard to understand?


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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 10:46:28 AM »
Of course I know the difference. It's the same. IEBC structured talk is a bait. Jubilee seem to have wisen up and refused to bite it. NASA end game is NUSU Mkate of some form. The idea is simple - to crippled IEBC by making unreasonable demands so it doesn't hold 17th election - creating a constitutional crisis - then we hear cries of NARA or Caretaker gok as IEBC is undergoing reforms. There is no time for any serious reforms - btw now and 17th - it's just 4 weeks.
Differentiate between talks to get IEBC to undertake reforms and Nusu Mkate. Come back when you know the difference.

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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 10:48:55 AM »
It's not so hard to see you're gonna burst a vein soon. Go on vacation or smoke some weed - blow off some of that stress.
The only folks talking about a coalition governemnt are Jubilidiots.  Nobody wants to share government with murderous criminals and scoundrels.  Is this too hard to understand?



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Re: Yet another desperate attempt at NUSU mkate - Structured talks with IEBC
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 12:03:28 PM »
It's not so hard to see you're gonna burst a vein soon. Go on vacation or smoke some weed - blow off some of that stress.
The only folks talking about a coalition governemnt are Jubilidiots.  Nobody wants to share government with murderous criminals and scoundrels.  Is this too hard to understand?



Shouldn't you be giving this advice to the arse scratching drunk president?