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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2017, 04:24:10 PM »
You'll still claim it was manipulated. NASA Tech Agent were given server logs. Then they demanded access - and they go it - albeit late.

Yes I could.  The information would have carried more weight a few weeks ago.  It is time sensitive.  They forfeited the benefit of the doubt with their stalling on the court order.  Still I think that's not the reason they have not shared this information.  It certainly wasn't the reason a few weeks ago.  Believe it or not, if they drop this info a few weeks ago, I would have believed them.  I might have been skeptical, but I would ultimately have had to believe them.

I think there are things that they prefer not to come out from whatever info they have about the KIEMS kit and their transmission records.  They cannot be good things.

Now IEBC are saying they are open to server audit.  In this era of SOCIAL MEDIA - explain to me why evidence of Jubilee rigging or manipulation has not surfaced. Everyone I know nearly has facebook account. If you say Kisii votes were stolen - it should be easy to find evidence from NASA diehards - they were in polling stations, they counted the votes, the agents signed and copy was pinned. Show up pictures that someone took of the counting & what was pinned on the wall -- and what later turned out in Nairobi. --so we can understand the "Transmission" issues this election had.

It's not a standard.  It's just a fact I am stating.  If that info is out there, and I were IEBC, I would have put it out there to buttress even the points you are making.

Where was this offer when it mattered?
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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2017, 04:35:51 PM »
Chirobber living on borrowed time. The man is a coward and a thief and soon or later jubilee will take him out and then blame NASA. No honor among thieves.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2017, 04:43:05 PM »

That's why I said I don't think it'll go far.
I have a problem with preempting it by issuing threats and all because I trust we have structures (JSC-Parliament)  to weed out bullshiet. The only reason I can guess for that is real fear.

Ngunjiri says he's ready to stand by or substantiate every claim right there. I'd love to see that. I'm told he should have filed an affidavit and not that love letter.

But we won't get far because Uhuru has asked him to withdraw it.


Regarding propaganda,we are back to equivalence. We was told that Mutunga and team ate 1B each.
Condemnations are not threats. Just like Ngunjiri has a "right" to make up stuff either for his own political career stardom or for Jubilee, everyone else has a right to call out his BS and condemn this blatant politicization of judgments. I'm pretty sure Ngunjiri cannot substantiate any of this: 90% is non-existent "offenses" and when addressing actual wrong, he is asking the JSC to invade Maraga's privacy and insinuating that he himself invaded the closed SCOK deliberations or at best that he has acquired testimony from judges who are ready to be called to give evidence of coercion/intimidation by Maraga: How much of this do you realistically expect would happen? True dat, about propaganda, but no one tried to have Mutunga removed for allegedly eating 1 Billion to give the 2013 judgment. No one even tried to legitimize the allegations by pretending to institute a formal proceeding. What I find sickest by the Ngunjiri types is how far they are willing to take their Moiwannabeism.
Ngunjiri is more then being condemned, he has been threatened. Kisii's are vowing to shift their votes just to prove a point. That's not condemnation. And it has worked!


You're 'pretty sure' yet you can't/won't wait for him to present his evidence ok. Rest 'pretty sure' that you can't eat your words because he has withdrawn.
I find it interesting how you struggle to see that openly targeting a judge's job due to a judicial decision (and while he is still writing a judgment) is a threat and intimidation, instead you see it as criticism, and somehow can say that voters withdrawing their support in disapproval of a party's behaviour constitutes a "threat".....ARE YOU SERIOUS???  8)

I made it clear not just that I think these are BS allegations but WHY before this withdrawal. Dude, if a judge complained of coercion by Maraga, why would he need a Nyeri MP to report the matter to the JSC? So I'm not resting assured of anything, my fren, I was not waiting to be proven/disproven right. If the JSC had soiled itself by entertaining it beyond the most cursory consideration they would have just colluded with political thugs.

If Maraga was caught doing something wrong in the normal course of things and this blew up in his face and he found himself facing all sorts of pressure and inquisitions for his misbehaviour, one, I doubt any Kisii would waste their time demonstrating for him, and two, it would not be a fight between Nyeri MPs and the CJ. It would look more like the Shollei sagas. These "threats" be they from Kisii or elsewhere are because everyone can see the witch-hunt for what it is and it stinks. Dudes lose a court case then start a grand inquisition against the CJ, anyone could tell you whats going on there.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2017, 05:03:05 PM »

That's why I said I don't think it'll go far.
I have a problem with preempting it by issuing threats and all because I trust we have structures (JSC-Parliament)  to weed out bullshiet. The only reason I can guess for that is real fear.

Ngunjiri says he's ready to stand by or substantiate every claim right there. I'd love to see that. I'm told he should have filed an affidavit and not that love letter.

But we won't get far because Uhuru has asked him to withdraw it.


Regarding propaganda,we are back to equivalence. We was told that Mutunga and team ate 1B each.
Condemnations are not threats. Just like Ngunjiri has a "right" to make up stuff either for his own political career stardom or for Jubilee, everyone else has a right to call out his BS and condemn this blatant politicization of judgments. I'm pretty sure Ngunjiri cannot substantiate any of this: 90% is non-existent "offenses" and when addressing actual wrong, he is asking the JSC to invade Maraga's privacy and insinuating that he himself invaded the closed SCOK deliberations or at best that he has acquired testimony from judges who are ready to be called to give evidence of coercion/intimidation by Maraga: How much of this do you realistically expect would happen? True dat, about propaganda, but no one tried to have Mutunga removed for allegedly eating 1 Billion to give the 2013 judgment. No one even tried to legitimize the allegations by pretending to institute a formal proceeding. What I find sickest by the Ngunjiri types is how far they are willing to take their Moiwannabeism.
Ngunjiri is more then being condemned, he has been threatened. Kisii's are vowing to shift their votes just to prove a point. That's not condemnation. And it has worked!


You're 'pretty sure' yet you can't/won't wait for him to present his evidence ok. Rest 'pretty sure' that you can't eat your words because he has withdrawn.
I find it interesting how you struggle to see that openly targeting a judge's job due to a judicial decision is a threat and intimidation, instead you see it as criticism, and somehow can say that voters withdrawing their support in disapproval of a party's behaviour constitutes a "threat".....ARE YOU SERIOUS???  8)

I made it clear not just that I think these are BS allegations but WHY before this withdrawal. Dude, if a judge complained of coercion by Maraga, why would he need a Nyeri MP to report the matter to the JSC? So I'm not resting assured of anything, my fren, I was not waiting to be proven/disproven right. If the JSC had soiled itself by entertaining it beyond the most cursory consideration they would have just colluded with political thugs.

If Maraga was caught doing something wrong in the normal course of things and this blew up in his face and he found himself facing all sorts of pressure and inquisitions for his misbehaviour, one, I doubt any Kisii would waste their time demonstrating for him, and two, it would not be a fight between Nyeri MPs and the CJ. It would look more like the Shollei sagas. These "threats" be they from Kisii or elsewhere are because everyone can see the witch-hunt for what it is and it stinks. Dudes lose a court case then start a grand inquisition against the CJ, anyone could tell you whats going on there.
I'm not seriou,I'm vooke 8)

There are well laid out procedures for kicking them out and Jubilee following this is no intimidation or threatening. Threats are withholding Kisii votes  should this be followed or even attempted


Concerning your thoughts/views/opinion,I told you they are not the subject so highly irrelevant as are mine which mirror yours  8); what matters is getting in the way of a petitioner  within his constitutional right.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2017, 05:12:03 PM »


Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2017, 05:14:26 PM »
I'm not seriou,I'm vooke 8)

There are well laid out procedures for kicking them out and Jubilee following this is no intimidation or threatening. Threats are withholding Kisii votes  should this be followed or even attempted


Concerning your thoughts/views/opinion,I told you they are not the subject so highly irrelevant as are mine which mirror yours  8); what matters is getting in the way of a petitioner  within his constitutional right.
Right: Ngunjiri is within his constitutional rights but Kisii voters are not, yes? :D Who has gotten in the way of his exercising them? Perhaps you should direct your complaint at Uhuru who is busy interfering with Ngunjiri's constitutional rights :D

My opinions are shared because you suggested something about those opinions which had to be countered.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2017, 05:14:36 PM »



Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
Uhunye does not need Kisii 280k to get past the 50% mark, but with the uncertain turnout on 17th,he needs every vote. That is what compelled him to beat st a hasty retreat.

Kisii threats are what intimidation is all about and I ain't surprised you can't see that
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2017, 05:16:35 PM »
I'm not seriou,I'm vooke 8)

There are well laid out procedures for kicking them out and Jubilee following this is no intimidation or threatening. Threats are withholding Kisii votes  should this be followed or even attempted


Concerning your thoughts/views/opinion,I told you they are not the subject so highly irrelevant as are mine which mirror yours  8); what matters is getting in the way of a petitioner  within his constitutional right.

Right: Ngunjiri is within his constitutional rights but Kisii voters are not, yes? :D Who has gotten in the way of his exercising them? Perhaps you should direct your complaint at Uhuru who is busy interfering with Ngunjiri's constitutional rights :D

My opinions are shared because you suggested something about those opinions which had to be countered.
They are within their rights to deny Uhunye votes for entertaining the very thought of kicking out Maraga for his sins.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2017, 05:17:37 PM »



Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
Uhunye does not need Kisii 280k to get past the 50% mark, but with the uncertain turnout on 17th,he needs every vote. That is what compelled him to best a hasty retreat.

Kisii threats are what intimidation is all about and I ain't surprised you can't see that
Right! Voters must NOT withdraw their votes, how dare they? I mean, who do they think those votes belong to: them??? :-X

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2017, 05:18:08 PM »


Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
Uhunye does not need Kisii 280k to get past the 50% mark, but with the uncertain turnout on 17th,he needs every vote. That is what compelled him to best a hasty retreat.

Kisii threats are what intimidation is all about and I ain't surprised you can't see that

You are gonna twist yourself into a pretzel defending kamwana.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2017, 05:19:15 PM »


Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
Uhunye does not need Kisii 280k to get past the 50% mark, but with the uncertain turnout on 17th,he needs every vote. That is what compelled him to best a hasty retreat.

Kisii threats are what intimidation is all about and I ain't surprised you can't see that

You are gonna twist yourself into a pretzel defending kamwana.
Kisii threats won, Uhunye lost
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2017, 05:20:53 PM »
If he really believed that the judge should be removed then he should tell Ouru to go to hell.  You cannot have democracy and all its ideals when the president controls all his MP's like poodles.  Ouru most likely told this particula poodle to file the case and then when it becomes embarrassing, he orders him to withdraw the case and ouru want credit for it.




Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #72 on: September 15, 2017, 05:24:06 PM »
If he really believed that the judge should be removed then he should tell Ouru to go to hell.  You cannot have democracy and all its ideals when the president controls all his MP's.  Ouru most likely told his poodle to file the case and then when it becomes embarrassing, he orders him to withdraw the case and he want credit for it.



Some would be excused for seeing it for what it is.  Good cop, bad cop routine in the service of intimidation.
Party interests first. What part of that is too hard for you to comprehend?
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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2017, 05:24:53 PM »
I'm not seriou,I'm vooke 8)

There are well laid out procedures for kicking them out and Jubilee following this is no intimidation or threatening. Threats are withholding Kisii votes  should this be followed or even attempted


Concerning your thoughts/views/opinion,I told you they are not the subject so highly irrelevant as are mine which mirror yours  8); what matters is getting in the way of a petitioner  within his constitutional right.

Right: Ngunjiri is within his constitutional rights but Kisii voters are not, yes? :D Who has gotten in the way of his exercising them? Perhaps you should direct your complaint at Uhuru who is busy interfering with Ngunjiri's constitutional rights :D

My opinions are shared because you suggested something about those opinions which had to be countered.
They are within their rights to deny Uhunye votes for entertaining the very thought of kicking out Maraga for his sins.
Which ones are these? You mean like how he has been indoctrinated in the church of NGO and needs to be deprogrammed? :D Or how he forced Ibrahim to get admitted in hosi just when he was most needed? :D And then how he gave a bad eye to other judges to make them agree to his ideas even though they disagreed? :D Or maybe it was Lenaola's sins and not Maraga's...like displaying an unwelcoming attitude to dinner guests Grand Mullah and friends on 31st August? :D

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Re: Chiloba speaks
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2017, 05:26:26 PM »
I'm not seriou,I'm vooke 8)

There are well laid out procedures for kicking them out and Jubilee following this is no intimidation or threatening. Threats are withholding Kisii votes  should this be followed or even attempted


Concerning your thoughts/views/opinion,I told you they are not the subject so highly irrelevant as are mine which mirror yours  8); what matters is getting in the way of a petitioner  within his constitutional right.

Right: Ngunjiri is within his constitutional rights but Kisii voters are not, yes? :D Who has gotten in the way of his exercising them? Perhaps you should direct your complaint at Uhuru who is busy interfering with Ngunjiri's constitutional rights :D

My opinions are shared because you suggested something about those opinions which had to be countered.
They are within their rights to deny Uhunye votes for entertaining the very thought of kicking out Maraga for his sins.
Which ones are these? You mean like how he has been indoctrinated in the church of NGO and needs to be deprogrammed? :D Or how he forced Ibrahim to get admitted in hosi just when he was most needed? :D And then how he gave a bad eye to other judges to make them agree to his ideas even though they disagreed? :D Or maybe it was Lenaola's sins and not Maraga's...like displaying an unwelcoming attitude to dinner guests Grand Mullah and friends on 31st August? :D
We will never know because Kisiis have bullied Uhunye and he has backed down.

Think about Babu's wild claims...it took SCOK to vindicate some of them
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.