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Omorlo,
What are chances of this succeeding?

If I could turn, turn back the hands of time, then I'd have demanded for this at SCOK~R Kelly rendition (If I could Turn Back the Hands of Time)

[patel]

This would be a good thing if Kuria can meet the cost. We also know that those boxes are full of stuffed ballots from algurair and Ellam printers so I have no idea what purpose the recount would serve.  The big kahuna is the server the electronic footprints are hard to erase or tamper so the server would offer a clear picture.

[RV Pundit]

It's make sense however belated.We have re run to do it again.

[GeeMail]

LOL! It's like compelling Veritas to sticky MOASS. Does IEBC have the time? Jubilee is intent on opening ballot boxes but not the servers that fed Chebakuti false results.

[vooke]

The boxes are all at IEBC Constituency offices if I'm not mistaken. Transporting them to kasarani would not take more than 5 days.

Counting is the real deal. I give it 5 seconds per ballot or 300M seconds, or 20,833hrs. If you have 50 counting streams you slash that to 416hrs, or 35 days assuming 12hrs per day of counting.

[GeeMail]

The boxes are all at IEBC Constituency offices if I'm not mistaken. Transporting them to kasarani would not take more than 5 days.

Counting is the real deal. I give it 5 seconds per ballot or 300M seconds, or 20,833hrs. If you have 50 counting streams you slash that to 416hrs, or 35 days assuming 12hrs per day of counting.

The question is not the counting anymore. If the numbers really mattered, why did Uthamaki advocates give it such a wide berth during the petition hearing? Why have they gathered that idea so many weeks after? After all the memos and catfights within IEBC itself, I'd be amazed at the number of Kenyans who will trust IEBC to account for their fingers, tally and transmit the results on a Form34A in fullscaps. Maybe Kerry and other observers accredited by Curia Moses can.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Kuria is going through the denial phase of grief.  The court should grant his request - if he can finance it - if that is what he needs to cope.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

The boxes are all at IEBC Constituency offices if I'm not mistaken. Transporting them to kasarani would not take more than 5 days.

Counting is the real deal. I give it 5 seconds per ballot or 300M seconds, or 20,833hrs. If you have 50 counting streams you slash that to 416hrs, or 35 days assuming 12hrs per day of counting.

The question is not the counting anymore. If the numbers really mattered, why did Uthamaki advocates give it such a wide berth during the petition hearing? Why have they gathered that idea so many weeks after? After all the memos and catfights within IEBC itself, I'd be amazed at the number of Kenyans who will trust IEBC to account for their fingers, tally and transmit the results on a Form34A in fullscaps. Maybe Kerry and other observers accredited by Curia Moses can.

The petition caught them unprepared after NASA declared they were not going the SCOK route.  When the court permitted tons of evidence, there were bigger things to fight than what was in the ballot boxes. 

Only a jubilant will believe that the ballot boxes reflect anything meaningful after the process was exposed as a farce.  A jubilant's poor understanding of integrity is actually a defensive mechanism.

[Omollo]

Success means? I assume you mean if the results of the recount can overturn the verdict of the court (if either Uhuru or Raila won).

The answer is a resounding NO. Even if the recount were ordered by the court and found that Uhuru has more votes, the judgment would still stand and above all - UNCONTRADICTED.

That may be hard to understand so let me try: The court determined that there were irregularities and illegalities meaning the numbers are tainted and therefore null and void.

On Kuria's recount: It would be a pure academic exercise with possible propaganda value for the "winning side" but of no legal value whatever.

Omorlo,
What are chances of this succeeding?

If I could turn, turn back the hands of time, then I'd have demanded for this at SCOK~R Kelly rendition (If I could Turn Back the Hands of Time)

[vooke]

Success means? I assume you mean if the results of the recount can overturn the verdict of the court (if either Uhuru or Raila won).

The answer is a resounding NO. Even if the recount were ordered by the court and found that Uhuru has more votes, the judgment would still stand and above all - UNCONTRADICTED.

That may be hard to understand so let me try: The court determined that there were irregularities and illegalities meaning the numbers are tainted and therefore null and void.

On Kuria's recount: It would be a pure academic exercise with possible propaganda value for the "winning side" but of no legal value whatever.

Omorlo,
What are chances of this succeeding?

If I could turn, turn back the hands of time, then I'd have demanded for this at SCOK~R Kelly rendition (If I could Turn Back the Hands of Time)

Sorry,
I meant Kuria's application. I know the judgement is cast in steel,and not even God can rewrite history.


As I shared above, a recount would probably take longer than the remaining days to the re-run so it's propaganda value would be greatly diminished,especially if Uhuru wins. If he loses, it'd prove the ballots were stuffed

[Omollo]

The application he made is incompetent.

It should have been made to the person in custody of the information. That would be the IEBC. The IEBC would write back and explain that it has shared custody with the courts in that a court order is required to open the boxes.

Then he would take it from there.

I estimate 4 weeks of court processes in addition to 2 - 3 weeks of correspondence between him and the IEBC. There may arise other people who are interested in the matter.

All in all, it will not work towards his intended goal. If NASA wins, the county commissioners go and most of the mischief carried out to stuff the boxes and doctor the numbers backwards to fit Chirchir's 54% will come to the surface.

Sorry,
I meant Kuria's application. I know the judgement is cast in steel,and not even God can rewrite history.


As I shared above, a recount would probably take longer than the remaining days to the re-run so it's propaganda value would be greatly diminished,especially if Uhuru wins. If he loses, it'd prove the ballots were stuffed

[vooke]

The application he made is incompetent.

It should have been made to the person in custody of the information. That would be the IEBC. The IEBC would write back and explain that it has shared custody with the courts in that a court order is required to open the boxes.

Then he would take it from there.

I estimate 4 weeks of court processes in addition to 2 - 3 weeks of correspondence between him and the IEBC. There may arise other people who are interested in the matter.

All in all, it will not work towards his intended goal. If NASA wins, the county commissioners go and most of the mischief carried out to stuff the boxes and doctor the numbers backwards to fit Chirchir's 54% will come to the surface.

Sorry,
I meant Kuria's application. I know the judgement is cast in steel,and not even God can rewrite history.


As I shared above, a recount would probably take longer than the remaining days to the re-run so it's propaganda value would be greatly diminished,especially if Uhuru wins. If he loses, it'd prove the ballots were stuffed

Asante,
I just remembered some NGO which wrote to Presidential Delivery Unit seeking to know the total amount used in running the ads. They quoted the same Act.


PS
I think we are giving more credit to Maraga and Gang instead of NASWA lawyers for flooring Jubilee. They are not about to recover from SCOK thrashing. Expect more and more unreasonable demands. Only a victory in the re-run will deliver them.

[Georgesoros]

The application he made is incompetent.

It should have been made to the person in custody of the information. That would be the IEBC. The IEBC would write back and explain that it has shared custody with the courts in that a court order is required to open the boxes.

Then he would take it from there.

I estimate 4 weeks of court processes in addition to 2 - 3 weeks of correspondence between him and the IEBC. There may arise other people who are interested in the matter.

All in all, it will not work towards his intended goal. If NASA wins, the county commissioners go and most of the mischief carried out to stuff the boxes and doctor the numbers backwards to fit Chirchir's 54% will come to the surface.

Sorry,
I meant Kuria's application. I know the judgement is cast in steel,and not even God can rewrite history.


As I shared above, a recount would probably take longer than the remaining days to the re-run so it's propaganda value would be greatly diminished,especially if Uhuru wins. If he loses, it'd prove the ballots were stuffed

I agree. He should have addressed IEBC.
Also, it too late. Ths counting is now left to academic researchers.

[Omollo]

The same process as I describe. Administrative first followed by "other approaches" if it fails.

Petitions :

• Governors - 31
• MPs - 92
• MCAs - 129
• Total = 277

Asante,
I just remembered some NGO which wrote to Presidential Delivery Unit seeking to know the total amount used in running the ads. They quoted the same Act.

PS
I think we are giving more credit to Maraga and Gang instead of NASWA lawyers for flooring Jubilee. They are not about to recover from SCOK thrashing. Expect more and more unreasonable demands. Only a victory in the re-run will deliver them.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Success means? I assume you mean if the results of the recount can overturn the verdict of the court (if either Uhuru or Raila won).

The answer is a resounding NO. Even if the recount were ordered by the court and found that Uhuru has more votes, the judgment would still stand and above all - UNCONTRADICTED.

That may be hard to understand so let me try: The court determined that there were irregularities and illegalities meaning the numbers are tainted and therefore null and void.

On Kuria's recount: It would be a pure academic exercise with possible propaganda value for the "winning side" but of no legal value whatever.

Omorlo,
What are chances of this succeeding?

If I could turn, turn back the hands of time, then I'd have demanded for this at SCOK~R Kelly rendition (If I could Turn Back the Hands of Time)

Sorry,
I meant Kuria's application. I know the judgement is cast in steel,and not even God can rewrite history.


As I shared above, a recount would probably take longer than the remaining days to the re-run so it's propaganda value would be greatly diminished,especially if Uhuru wins. If he loses, it'd prove the ballots were stuffed

It wouldn't prove anything.  But Moses Kuria should be free to count the ballots if he can pay for it.  Even Zimbabweans were still allowed to count their Zim dollars at the height of their economic meltdown.

[Omollo]

In 6 months Judiciary will determine 227 petitions; 80% in Jubilee strongholds. Tyranny to diminish like a whirlwind as #JubileePG crumbles.

— Nelson Havi (@NelsonHavi) September 12, 2017

[vooke]

Success means? I assume you mean if the results of the recount can overturn the verdict of the court (if either Uhuru or Raila won).

The answer is a resounding NO. Even if the recount were ordered by the court and found that Uhuru has more votes, the judgment would still stand and above all - UNCONTRADICTED.

That may be hard to understand so let me try: The court determined that there were irregularities and illegalities meaning the numbers are tainted and therefore null and void.

On Kuria's recount: It would be a pure academic exercise with possible propaganda value for the "winning side" but of no legal value whatever.

Omorlo,
What are chances of this succeeding?

If I could turn, turn back the hands of time, then I'd have demanded for this at SCOK~R Kelly rendition (If I could Turn Back the Hands of Time)

Sorry,
I meant Kuria's application. I know the judgement is cast in steel,and not even God can rewrite history.


As I shared above, a recount would probably take longer than the remaining days to the re-run so it's propaganda value would be greatly diminished,especially if Uhuru wins. If he loses, it'd prove the ballots were stuffed

It wouldn't prove anything.  But Moses Kuria should be free to count the ballots if he can pay for it.  Even Zimbabweans were still allowed to count their Zim dollars at the height of their economic meltdown.

Why's that?

[vooke]

In 6 months Judiciary will determine 227 petitions; 80% in Jubilee strongholds. Tyranny to diminish like a whirlwind as #JubileePG crumbles.

— Nelson Havi (@NelsonHavi) September 12, 2017

Jubilee campaign comes to a grinding halt.
Babu gains 80% of 277 seats in the re-runs
Jubilee is decimated
Uhuru will not sleep for the next 6 months.

[patel]

Harison Kinyanjui is that the bastard lawyer with fake british accent that was schooled by Nowrejee during presidential petition?

[patel]

Nelson Havi has been dishing out very good legal advice especially to third respondent but as usuall they have ears and eyes but they cannot see neither hear

In 6 months Judiciary will determine 227 petitions; 80% in Jubilee strongholds. Tyranny to diminish like a whirlwind as #JubileePG crumbles.

— Nelson Havi (@NelsonHavi) September 12, 2017