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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2017, 10:41:51 AM »
Omollo's Form34A with Raila and Uhuru's signatures plus their phone numbers ;) is hilarious. Weren't ROs, POs and clerks trained by IEBC? This form blasts Pundit's loudmouth claim of 54000 forms "without discrepancy". Has anybody called that number to ask Uhuru which pen he used to sign this form? Was this form signed by NIS? Was it signed under duress?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2017, 10:57:23 AM »
It's IEBC who made the claim. Chiloba said their forms have NO errors. No discrepancies. Clearly he understand what a discrepancy or error is. As 3rd party observer - I find that form to be okay - seem to be minor confusion - otherwise agents don't need to sign form 34A - those are the extras - without even one signature from agents - that form would still be valid.
Omollo's Form34A with Raila and Uhuru's signatures plus their phone numbers ;) is hilarious. Weren't ROs, POs and clerks trained by IEBC? This form blasts Pundit's loudmouth claim of 54000 forms "without discrepancy". Has anybody called that number to ask Uhuru which pen he used to sign this form? Was this form signed by NIS? Was it signed under duress?

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2017, 11:13:19 AM »
What happens when you rig mindlessly.

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2017, 12:18:17 PM »
What did they sign? Favor me with a copy.

What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
Before the declaration, Akombe said the results had to be signed first. Are you saying no NASWA agent signed nothing?

If NASA agents did not see the forms, they would not be able to sign them.
Confused.
They were not at Bomas to sign 34As but to verify preparation of 34C from 34Bs.  Did they signed off 34C without either 34Bs or 34As? Or did they sign at all?

There was an elaborate signing ceremony by agents before declaration

NASA alleges there was an elaborate rigging scheme.  What is your point?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2017, 12:23:35 PM »
What did they sign? Favor me with a copy.

What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
Before the declaration, Akombe said the results had to be signed first. Are you saying no NASWA agent signed nothing?

If NASA agents did not see the forms, they would not be able to sign them.
Confused.
They were not at Bomas to sign 34As but to verify preparation of 34C from 34Bs.  Did they sign off 34C without either 34Bs or 34As? Or did they sign at all?

There was an elaborate signing ceremony by agents before declaration


NASA alleges there was an elaborate rigging scheme.  What is your point?
'They' refers to NASWA Agents
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2017, 12:29:49 PM »
vooke,

You are not making any sense.  You seem to be doubting the fact that NASA has actually filed a petition.  There is a link to the petition shared by Omollo on another thread.
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2017, 12:56:10 PM »
vooke,

You are not making any sense.  You seem to be doubting the fact that NASA has actually filed a petition.  There is a link to the petition shared by Omollo on another thread.

I never understand vooke. He comes out with these out bursts from time to time. Then cools down and sees sense before going off again like an ISIS roadside bomb.

NASA did not sign the 34C and had officially pulled out of Bomas after the IEBC refused to supply their agents with the information they needed to verify the results. As you say, all that is in the affidavits which I posted yesterday.
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2017, 12:58:28 PM »
vooke,

You are not making any sense.  You seem to be doubting the fact that NASA has actually filed a petition.  There is a link to the petition shared by Omollo on another thread.
Sorry you misunderstand. I shared the very petition links so I don't doubt that.

This thread is about IEBC forwarding forms 34A,B, and C to SCOK.

NASWA alleges IEBC declared the winner without a significant number of forms 34A and even B. So my question was, since before the declaration there was some signing ritual by commisioners and chief agents, did NASWA sign off form 34C with all these forms missing? Or did they sign at all?

I don't know if they signed, but I can imagine if they did, parts of the petition which claim the forms were missing at the point of declaration will be easily disproved. Just my musings.

I can imagine IEBC's replying Affidavit will include something to this effect
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2017, 01:02:19 PM »
NASA did not sign form 34C. The entire team had left Bomas.

NASWA alleges IEBC declared the winner without a significant number of forms 34A and even B. So my question was, since before the declaration there was some signing ritual by commisioners and chief agents, did NASWA sign off form 34C with all these forms missing? Or did they sign at all?

I don't know if they signed, but I can imagine if they did, parts of the petition which claim the forms were missing at the point of declaration will be easily disproved. Just my musings
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2017, 01:04:36 PM »
NASA did not sign form 34C. The entire team had left Bomas.

Asante ndugu.

Would you know whether Aukot agents signed?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2017, 01:30:04 PM »
Ekuru Aukot is funny. I find him more of a comedian than a presidential candidate. He has a clique of persons on their toes because they think he has the "solution".

Aukot says he did not sign. His chief agent signed it against his express instructions, he claims.

Now Mr. Kagai comes out and says NO! Aukot asked me to sign. He has written a full affidavit on the matter which I am sure one of the parties will use to kick him in the balls (if he still has any).

The clincher is that Ekuru Aukot CONCEDED defeat, congratulated Uhuru for his "win" and turned on Raila to concede. He then took to twitter and released a barrage of anti-NASA tweets mocking the alliance by reversing some of its slogans and basically being a sob. These actions are compounded by the fact that he on numerous occasions after Kagai signed, stated that the elections had been free, fair etc.

I think he was promised something by Jubilee and unlike Jirongo accepted to wait for it. Jirongo demanded cash, had it safely out of Kikuyu hands, then conceded. An old hag versus a new hoe.
NASA did not sign form 34C. The entire team had left Bomas.

Asante ndugu.

Would you know whether Aukot agents signed?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2017, 01:35:58 PM »
Ekuru Aukot is funny. I find him more of a comedian than a presidential candidate. He has a clique of persons on their toes because they think he has the "solution".

Aukot says he did not sign. His chief agent signed it against his express instructions, he claims.

Now Mr. Kagai comes out and says NO! Aukot asked me to sign. He has written a full affidavit on the matter which I am sure one of the parties will use to kick him in the balls (if he still has any).

The clincher is that Ekuru Aukot CONCEDED defeat, congratulated Uhuru for his "win" and turned on Raila to concede. He then took to twitter and released a barrage of anti-NASA tweets mocking the alliance by reversing some of its slogans and basically being a sob. These actions are compounded by the fact that he on numerous occasions after Kagai signed, stated that the elections had been free, fair etc.

I think he was promised something by Jubilee and unlike Jirongo accepted to wait for it. Jirongo demanded cash, had it safely out of Kikuyu hands, then conceded. An old hag versus a new hoe.
NASA did not sign form 34C. The entire team had left Bomas.

Asante ndugu.

Would you know whether Aukot agents signed?

The manner in which he flip flopped over the printing process should have warned NASWA desperate as they were of support to steer clear of him.

It's quite possible he will waste precious court minutes with unhelpful nonsense.

My views about his idealism? Start somewhere, get a job with Jubilee and prove his mettle. Whatever you think of Matiangi, he's made his mark with very simple commonsensical changes in Education.Means anyone can shine even in hell. Same case with PK. Why couldn't he be Sonko's poodle and roll out his ideas for NBO?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2017, 01:38:18 PM »
You are joking. I know people in NASA who would gladly do business with Jubilee but would be taken to the cross willingly rather than deal with Ekuru Aukot.

The manner in which he flip flopped over the printing process should have warned NASWA desperate as they were of support to steer clear of him.

It's quite possible he will waste precious court minutes with unhelpful nonsense.

My views about his idealism? Start somewhere, get a job with Jubilee and prove his mettle. Whatever you think of Matiangi, he's made his mark with very simple commonsensical changes in Education.Means anyone can shine even in hell. Same case with PK. Why couldn't he be Sonko's poodle and roll out his ideas for NBO?
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