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Having understood with sadness the great pain that NASA folks are in as they face bleak future - here is my free pesa nane advice.

Jubilee like KANU is now a colossus juggernaut. You cannot fight it from outside. NASA brigade should make a deal with Uhuru and join Jubilee - get some crumbs- then attempt Raila type of implosion of 2002 in year 2022. This is especially true for Kalonzo who is down and out...but who is forever dreaming of Kikuyu-Kalenjin backing. Gideon Moi is also another political idiot - should have long collapsed his small KANU - and joined Jubilee. This will allow him chance to mix up with Jubilee without raising eye-brows and attempt a trojan horse attack.

So MaDVD, Kalonzo, Wetangula,Isaac and Gideon should slowly warm their way to Jubilee...and once inside they can gang up against WSR.

Option 2 is to collapse their little parties and form NASA - and pray that Jubilee implode before 2022.

Having small party like ODM - with 60 mps  :D- or the rest which have 10 mps each - is WASTE of TIME when you're facing collous with 200mps.

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YOu cannot implode Jubilee from inside. Jubilee is Uhuru's party once he retires it will die like PNU and NARC. Right now several oligarchs are waiting for mid-term around August 2019 you will see dust. We wacha tu. Politics in Kenya is dynamic. IF Raila stays in the game expect Ruto to only get 30% from RV and Kiambu.. the rest will be split by 2 more parties

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Uhuru is very young and after eating 30B ya SGR -and after ICC debacle - I don't think he has appetite to retire soon - he will most likely try to get feckless protege as Ruto DP - and the party will create position for him - maybe Supreme Leader of Jubilee - who'll the Chief Advisor of GoK.
YOu cannot implode Jubilee from inside. Jubilee is Uhuru's party once he retires it will die like PNU and NARC. Right now several oligarchs are waiting for mid-term around August 2019 you will see dust. We wacha tu. Politics in Kenya is dynamic. IF Raila stays in the game expect Ruto to only get 30% from RV and Kiambu.. the rest will be split by 2 more parties   

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so how did he get SGR Funds? He was paid a kickback? Uhuru will have a hard time trying to bully Central to support him and ruto at the same time. Let us see. It will unfold soon

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I think story was - Wanjigi was suppose to get his 10% - consultancy - but Uhuru took it - hence the fall out. Uhuru is like his father Jomo in terms of the grip he has in central. He is no weak Kibaki. I don't see any kikuyu politician even attempting to differ with him - like many in RV dare Ruto - he is the KING. If you think he is going to become lame-duck - think again. Uhuru intends to remain powerful for quite sometime. He has tasted power and in fact you may hear cries to remove the term limit Uganda wise :). I won't be suprised if he get one of his son to public service soon.
so how did he get SGR Funds? He was paid a kickback? Uhuru will have a hard time trying to bully Central to support him and ruto at the same time. Let us see. It will unfold soon

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Jomo, Moi, Kibaki and Uhuru presidencies have been disastrous. Last two are unmitigated tragedies given the opportunity they had. After your confession that Uhuru stole 30b from hus country's flagship project SGR you would have imagined he would go home to enjoy loot but now? And Ruto his deputy must be in the know. Salivating perhaps and eating crumbs or taking in his own elsewhere. Keep talking brother.... So presidency in Zamunda per your post is about thievery and more thievery. Kibaki had PEV blood in his hands. Uhuru has 30b per your post and secession calls. It may not end well. If Lesotho plans succeed if petition fails and you end up in Central Kenya together as two tribes, we can only say you deserve each other.
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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2017, 04:08:43 PM »
 :grin:

Having understood with sadness the great pain that NASA folks are in as they face bleak future - here is my free pesa nane advice.

Jubilee like KANU is now a colossus juggernaut. You cannot fight it from outside. NASA brigade should make a deal with Uhuru and join Jubilee - get some crumbs- then attempt Raila type of implosion of 2002 in year 2022. This is especially true for Kalonzo who is down and out...but who is forever dreaming of Kikuyu-Kalenjin backing. Gideon Moi is also another political idiot - should have long collapsed his small KANU - and joined Jubilee. This will allow him chance to mix up with Jubilee without raising eye-brows and attempt a trojan horse attack.

So MaDVD, Kalonzo, Wetangula,Isaac and Gideon should slowly warm their way to Jubilee...and once inside they can gang up against WSR.

Option 2 is to collapse their little parties and form NASA - and pray that Jubilee implode before 2022.

Having small party like ODM - with 60 mps  :D- or the rest which have 10 mps each - is WASTE of TIME when you're facing collous with 200mps.
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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2017, 05:21:39 PM »
:grin:

Having understood with sadness the great pain that NASA folks are in as they face bleak future - here is my free pesa nane advice.

Jubilee like KANU is now a colossus juggernaut. You cannot fight it from outside. NASA brigade should make a deal with Uhuru and join Jubilee - get some crumbs- then attempt Raila type of implosion of 2002 in year 2022. This is especially true for Kalonzo who is down and out...but who is forever dreaming of Kikuyu-Kalenjin backing. Gideon Moi is also another political idiot - should have long collapsed his small KANU - and joined Jubilee. This will allow him chance to mix up with Jubilee without raising eye-brows and attempt a trojan horse attack.

So MaDVD, Kalonzo, Wetangula,Isaac and Gideon should slowly warm their way to Jubilee...and once inside they can gang up against WSR.

Option 2 is to collapse their little parties and form NASA - and pray that Jubilee implode before 2022.

Having small party like ODM - with 60 mps  :D- or the rest which have 10 mps each - is WASTE of TIME when you're facing collous with 200mps.

You are mean...gosh, you had to go dig this up...lol

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Having understood with sadness the great pain that NASA folks are in as they face bleak future - here is my free pesa nane advice.

Jubilee like KANU is now a colossus juggernaut. You cannot fight it from outside. NASA brigade should make a deal with Uhuru and join Jubilee - get some crumbs- then attempt Raila type of implosion of 2002 in year 2022. This is especially true for Kalonzo who is down and out...but who is forever dreaming of Kikuyu-Kalenjin backing. Gideon Moi is also another political idiot - should have long collapsed his small KANU - and joined Jubilee. This will allow him chance to mix up with Jubilee without raising eye-brows and attempt a trojan horse attack.

So MaDVD, Kalonzo, Wetangula,Isaac and Gideon should slowly warm their way to Jubilee...and once inside they can gang up against WSR.

Option 2 is to collapse their little parties and form NASA - and pray that Jubilee implode before 2022.

Having small party like ODM - with 60 mps  :D- or the rest which have 10 mps each - is WASTE of TIME when you're facing collous with 200mps.


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so how did he get SGR Funds? He was paid a kickback? Uhuru will have a hard time trying to bully Central to support him and ruto at the same time. Let us see. It will unfold soon

And indeed he is having a hard time .....

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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2020, 07:21:38 AM »
Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2020, 07:38:09 AM »
Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

Now compare this with Robinas prediction, she has never gotten anything right ......

My take is that this is tight. Jubilee has lost tyranny it had in 2013 when they scored 50.08% and surprisingly have narrowed down to 2 principals. They think PK's and Karua's cosmopolitan constituency is bankable... while Raila has pulled in 2 more principals to up his chances.

I think Jubilee is overconfident and COMPLACENT. No Ocampo to scare them now. If Kenya joins the right side of history by sending this duo packing it will be a big win for our democracy. There is nothing transformational Uhuru has done that would make me want Ruto as next PORK. Roads, rails, blah. C plain.

A Jubilee loss would scuttle Ruto's game and open the way for performers like Dr Mutua, etc. Tribal MOUs are bad for democracy.

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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2020, 07:51:37 AM »
I lost count of how many times she got wrong. She disappeared then came back with more theories. I try to teach her. Supporting Raila is almost like a curse.
Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

Now compare this with Robinas prediction, she has never gotten anything right ......

My take is that this is tight. Jubilee has lost tyranny it had in 2013 when they scored 50.08% and surprisingly have narrowed down to 2 principals. They think PK's and Karua's cosmopolitan constituency is bankable... while Raila has pulled in 2 more principals to up his chances.

I think Jubilee is overconfident and COMPLACENT. No Ocampo to scare them now. If Kenya joins the right side of history by sending this duo packing it will be a big win for our democracy. There is nothing transformational Uhuru has done that would make me want Ruto as next PORK. Roads, rails, blah. C plain.

A Jubilee loss would scuttle Ruto's game and open the way for performers like Dr Mutua, etc. Tribal MOUs are bad for democracy.

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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2020, 08:14:33 AM »
You try to teach her but she refuses to learn I bet it a combination of the following factors , She is used to learning the hard way ,(She did after P.Ks loss where she even started attacking him,) , fixation obsession with P.K. (All this Raila support is just but a mirage to her emotional attachment with P.K. , Repeating Scenarios To Find Catharsis (She wants P.K. to overcome his loss in 2013/2017 )



I lost count of how many times she got wrong. She disappeared then came back with more theories. I try to teach her. Supporting Raila is almost like a curse.
Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

Now compare this with Robinas prediction, she has never gotten anything right ......

My take is that this is tight. Jubilee has lost tyranny it had in 2013 when they scored 50.08% and surprisingly have narrowed down to 2 principals. They think PK's and Karua's cosmopolitan constituency is bankable... while Raila has pulled in 2 more principals to up his chances.

I think Jubilee is overconfident and COMPLACENT. No Ocampo to scare them now. If Kenya joins the right side of history by sending this duo packing it will be a big win for our democracy. There is nothing transformational Uhuru has done that would make me want Ruto as next PORK. Roads, rails, blah. C plain.

A Jubilee loss would scuttle Ruto's game and open the way for performers like Dr Mutua, etc. Tribal MOUs are bad for democracy.


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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2020, 01:56:35 PM »
:grin: :grin: karma is a mean, cold-hearted bitch

:grin:

Having understood with sadness the great pain that NASA folks are in as they face bleak future - here is my free pesa nane advice.

Jubilee like KANU is now a colossus juggernaut. You cannot fight it from outside. NASA brigade should make a deal with Uhuru and join Jubilee - get some crumbs- then attempt Raila type of implosion of 2002 in year 2022. This is especially true for Kalonzo who is down and out...but who is forever dreaming of Kikuyu-Kalenjin backing. Gideon Moi is also another political idiot - should have long collapsed his small KANU - and joined Jubilee. This will allow him chance to mix up with Jubilee without raising eye-brows and attempt a trojan horse attack.

So MaDVD, Kalonzo, Wetangula,Isaac and Gideon should slowly warm their way to Jubilee...and once inside they can gang up against WSR.

Option 2 is to collapse their little parties and form NASA - and pray that Jubilee implode before 2022.

Having small party like ODM - with 60 mps  :D- or the rest which have 10 mps each - is WASTE of TIME when you're facing collous with 200mps.
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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2020, 01:58:38 PM »
I should get paid for my punditry - and for Patel - rigging machinery.
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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2020, 01:59:19 PM »
I guess you don't grasp basics of communication e.g. sarcasm, satire

Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

Now compare this with Robinas prediction, she has never gotten anything right ......

My take is that this is tight. Jubilee has lost tyranny it had in 2013 when they scored 50.08% and surprisingly have narrowed down to 2 principals. They think PK's and Karua's cosmopolitan constituency is bankable... while Raila has pulled in 2 more principals to up his chances.

I think Jubilee is overconfident and COMPLACENT. No Ocampo to scare them now. If Kenya joins the right side of history by sending this duo packing it will be a big win for our democracy. There is nothing transformational Uhuru has done that would make me want Ruto as next PORK. Roads, rails, blah. C plain.

A Jubilee loss would scuttle Ruto's game and open the way for performers like Dr Mutua, etc. Tribal MOUs are bad for democracy.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2020, 02:02:34 PM »
Noway & Pundit - what's happening? To warrant these X files. Has the Uhuruto handshake happened in Manyani retreat  :)


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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2020, 02:03:21 PM »
Yes , the sarcasm of  " it wasnt me" once caught pants down .  Youve been making wrong predictions left and right .....

I guess you don't grasp basics of communication e.g. sarcasm, satire

Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

Now compare this with Robinas prediction, she has never gotten anything right ......

My take is that this is tight. Jubilee has lost tyranny it had in 2013 when they scored 50.08% and surprisingly have narrowed down to 2 principals. They think PK's and Karua's cosmopolitan constituency is bankable... while Raila has pulled in 2 more principals to up his chances.

I think Jubilee is overconfident and COMPLACENT. No Ocampo to scare them now. If Kenya joins the right side of history by sending this duo packing it will be a big win for our democracy. There is nothing transformational Uhuru has done that would make me want Ruto as next PORK. Roads, rails, blah. C plain.

A Jubilee loss would scuttle Ruto's game and open the way for performers like Dr Mutua, etc. Tribal MOUs are bad for democracy.

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Re: The only way to beat Jubilee is to attempt another Trojan Horse Invasion.
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2020, 02:04:10 PM »
All I see is a rookie with lots of free-time. Prolly a true hustler.

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You try to teach her but she refuses to learn I bet it a combination of the following factors , She is used to learning the hard way ,(She did after P.Ks loss where she even started attacking him,) , fixation obsession with P.K. (All this Raila support is just but a mirage to her emotional attachment with P.K. , Repeating Scenarios To Find Catharsis (She wants P.K. to overcome his loss in 2013/2017 )



I lost count of how many times she got wrong. She disappeared then came back with more theories. I try to teach her. Supporting Raila is almost like a curse.
Damn they listened to me :). This was on the election eve.

Now compare this with Robinas prediction, she has never gotten anything right ......

My take is that this is tight. Jubilee has lost tyranny it had in 2013 when they scored 50.08% and surprisingly have narrowed down to 2 principals. They think PK's and Karua's cosmopolitan constituency is bankable... while Raila has pulled in 2 more principals to up his chances.

I think Jubilee is overconfident and COMPLACENT. No Ocampo to scare them now. If Kenya joins the right side of history by sending this duo packing it will be a big win for our democracy. There is nothing transformational Uhuru has done that would make me want Ruto as next PORK. Roads, rails, blah. C plain.

A Jubilee loss would scuttle Ruto's game and open the way for performers like Dr Mutua, etc. Tribal MOUs are bad for democracy.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels