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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #340 on: August 29, 2017, 09:26:24 PM »
Muite: no regulation about security features
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #341 on: August 29, 2017, 09:28:08 PM »
Muite; Only 5 forms were not signed. Maraga - requirement.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #342 on: August 29, 2017, 09:29:21 PM »
Lenaola : Nyali - there is no serial numbers - :) if he had time; this is disaster for Jubilee & IEBC

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #343 on: August 29, 2017, 09:30:52 PM »
IEBC IT: We availed all the orders - Non-compliance.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #344 on: August 29, 2017, 09:32:33 PM »
Muite: Having trouble explaining servers - super-security features - it took time to access.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #345 on: August 29, 2017, 09:32:50 PM »
what a weak argument. If IEBC decided on their own decided to use security features to adhere with the constitutional and statutory requirements of secure and verifiability of the elections. They cannot then turn around and say that there is no regulation for it.

Muite: no regulation about security features
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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #346 on: August 29, 2017, 09:34:03 PM »
Muite : No hacking in the report.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #347 on: August 29, 2017, 09:35:10 PM »
That is fruits of Maina Kiai rulling that emasculated Chebukati. If there is any issues - it's for court to go to ROs and POs.
what a weak argument. If IEBC decided on their own decided to use security features to adhere with the constitutional and statutory requirements of secure and verifiability of the elections. They cannot then turn around and say that there is no regulation for it.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #348 on: August 29, 2017, 09:37:31 PM »
what a weak argument. If IEBC decided on their own decided to use security features to adhere with the constitutional and statutory requirements of secure and verifiability of the elections. They cannot then turn around and say that there is no regulation for it.

Muite: no regulation about security features

Calls it ABUNDANCE of CAUTION. They were down to IEBC
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #349 on: August 29, 2017, 09:38:34 PM »
RO's and PO's are part of the commission.

That is fruits of Maina Kiai rulling that emasculated Chebukati. If there is any issues - it's for court to go to ROs and POs.
what a weak argument. If IEBC decided on their own decided to use security features to adhere with the constitutional and statutory requirements of secure and verifiability of the elections. They cannot then turn around and say that there is no regulation for it.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #350 on: August 29, 2017, 09:39:51 PM »
Ngatia as always is methodologically.
Ngatia ; Kisauni 34B -  we have looked at our copies - and they are signed. There could be problem with form.
Ngatia: Nyali - returning officer didn't sign - verify with 34B copies you have.
Ngatia :Likoni - not signed - 8 agents signed - ver

Ngatia: If these results are invalidated; Raila will lose more votes.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #351 on: August 29, 2017, 09:43:04 PM »
Ngatia; All 34As are present. None is missing.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #352 on: August 29, 2017, 09:43:55 PM »
RO's and PO's are part of the commission.

That is fruits of Maina Kiai rulling that emasculated Chebukati. If there is any issues - it's for court to go to ROs and POs.
what a weak argument. If IEBC decided on their own decided to use security features to adhere with the constitutional and statutory requirements of secure and verifiability of the elections. They cannot then turn around and say that there is no regulation for it.

Correct. What they do at the polling station and Constituency is final....needs no verification
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #353 on: August 29, 2017, 09:44:05 PM »
Ngatia; The allegation went back and took time to correct the errors - that is not true.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #354 on: August 29, 2017, 09:45:32 PM »
Right. The court can determine the extend of errors - if marginal - no problem - but RO or POS is criminal responsible.
Correct. What they do at the polling station and Constituency is final....needs no verification

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #355 on: August 29, 2017, 09:45:50 PM »
Ngatia: Isiolo North; Not signed because printer broke down.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #356 on: August 29, 2017, 09:47:09 PM »
Ngatia; The forms with problems are pro-raila votes.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #357 on: August 29, 2017, 09:54:56 PM »
They may be criminally responsible but the Commission is responsible for their criminal actions.  For example, if  a delivery truck for Daily Nonsense is driving drunk and kills someone during the cause of delivery, he maybe charged criminally but DN is responsible for the civil liabilities.

Right. The court can determine the extend of errors - if marginal - no problem - but RO or POS is criminal responsible.
Correct. What they do at the polling station and Constituency is final....needs no verification
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #358 on: August 29, 2017, 09:55:36 PM »
Ngatia: Conclude this report confirms election was free, fair and credible. The totality of 1) No missing 34As 2) 34Bs used at national tallying center - there is no ground for any challenge to results announced.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #359 on: August 29, 2017, 09:56:37 PM »
If the errors are to extend the election is nullifed- yes. If not - then it's individual responsibility.
They may be criminally responsible but the Commission is responsible for their criminal actions.  For example, if  a delivery truck for Daily Nonsense is driving drunk and kills someone during the cause of delivery, he maybe charged criminally but DN is responsible for the civil liabilities.