Every voter must receive six ballots-Good Job IEBC

[Kichwa]

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The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission has come up with further measures aimed at stopping fraud during the elections.

The commission has made it mandatory that all voters entering a polling station receive six ballot papers - for all the elective seats.

 This is meant to ensure that the number of votes cast for each elective seat in the polling station agrees with the cumulative presidential vote in that station. All polling officials have been instructed to effect the directive.

 "The instructions have been included in our polling procedures for purposes of training polling clerks and presiding officers," IEBC Commissioner Rose Akombe said.


 Dispelling fears

 This is meant to dispel fears that some areas may register a higher turnout for the presidential election than the other five seats, inviting suspicions of foul play.

 In 2013, NASA, the main opposition group, participating in the polls as Cord, accused the electoral commission of allowing its opponents to stuff boxes with more than two million extra ballots.

 Opposition leader Raila Odinga has often said that records showed that 10 million people voted for all the other candidates - governors, MPs, woman representatives, and MCAs - yet the same records show that 12 million people voted for the presidential candidates.

 The then electoral commission dismissed the claims, but admitted that there was a discrepancy of 458,085 votes between those who voted for the presidential candidates and the other five seats.

 IEBC wants to avoid a scenario where the turnout for the presidential seat will be relatively higher and thus raise suspicions of rigging.

 By making it compulsory for every voter to get six ballots and unique features introduced to the presidential ballot paper, the commission also hopes to address concerns by the Opposition, which has claimed that extra papers have been printed to help Jubilee.


 "At the opening of the polling station, the presiding officers will show party agents the number of ballot papers issued and record them in the polling day diary, complete with the unique serial numbers. At the end of polling, the presiding officer will record the number of unused ballot papers and provide the same to the agents," Dr Akombe said.

 Last week IEBC announced that it had sealed another possible loophole that could have allowed 'dead' voters to cast a ballot by doing away with the manual crossing out of a voter's name on the printed register.

 Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/ ... te-riggers

[vooke]

You know Kichwa,
It has ALWAYS been like this so it's not some revolutionary announcement.

Babu has for the last 4.5yrs bleated about presidential votes exceeding the nearest election by 2M votes which he then hallucinated to have been cast in Uhunye's favor.

But in 2013, the variance was negligible. Yet there was no such pronouncement. IEBC is just picking Babu's brains

Here's the 2013 results for all the seats
https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/resources/EIqEo3LuiB.pdf

 Variance between MCA and Governors is over 100K. The relevant variance here is 164K. Divided by 24,563 stations gives you an average of 3 per station. But what's important, 164K is not 2M

[Omollo]

I hope this will be the last time six ballots are issued. There should one ballot paper in future.

Instead of owning the voting system, they should lease one to be run by the manufacturers or suppliers.

Lastly there should be an amendment to the katiba where the current win by popular vote is replaced with a win in a majority of the counties, in this 24. A win should be at least 50+1

[Kichwa]

Vooke:  You do not have to fight every single improvement that IEBC makes to win the confidence of the public even if it does not make a difference to you.  Free and Fair election is only achieved by transparency and credibility.  If you guys are assured of winning as dictated by pundits, MOAS, wouldn't it be that you want the process to be credible so that your "assured victory" is seen to be also credible.  I am confused.

The then electoral commission dismissed the claims, but admitted that there was a discrepancy of 458,085 votes between those who voted for the presidential candidates and the other five seats

You know Kichwa,
It has ALWAYS been like this so it's not some revolutionary announcement.

Babu has for the last 4.5yrs bleated about presidential votes exceeding the nearest election by 2M votes which he then hallucinated TK have been cast in Uhunye's favor.

But in 2013, the variance was negligible. Yet there was no such pronouncement. IEBC is just picking Babu's brains

Here's the 2013 results for all the seats
https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/resources/EIqEo3LuiB.pdf

[vooke]

Vooke:  You do not have to fight every single improvement that IEBC makes to win the confidence of the public even if it does not make a difference to you.  Free and Fair election is only achieved by transparency and credibility.  If you guys are assured of winning as dictated by pundits, MOAS, wouldn't it be that you want the process to be credible so that your "assured victory" is seen to be also credible.  I am confused.

The then electoral commission dismissed the claims, but admitted that there was a discrepancy of 458,085 votes between those who voted for the presidential candidates and the other five seats

You know Kichwa,
It has ALWAYS been like this so it's not some revolutionary announcement.

Babu has for the last 4.5yrs bleated about presidential votes exceeding the nearest election by 2M votes which he then hallucinated TK have been cast in Uhunye's favor.

But in 2013, the variance was negligible. Yet there was no such pronouncement. IEBC is just picking Babu's brains

Here's the 2013 results for all the seats
https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/resources/EIqEo3LuiB.pdf

I'm not fighting nothing, just telling you that 2M is madness. Besides, the 458K is the total sum of all the variances. Stupid maths for obvious reasons; the variances overlap

[patel]

This might not be feasible due to the number of candidates however, with clean audited register I believe we may be able to introduce early voting.

I hope this will be the last time six ballots are issued. There should one ballot paper in future.

Instead of owning the voting system, they should lease one to be run by the manufacturers or suppliers.

Lastly there should be an amendment to the katiba where the current win by popular vote is replaced with a win in a majority of the counties, in this 24. A win should be at least 50+1

[Omollo]

KM

The 2M is not cited in the simplistic manner that is being celebrated now.

1. 2M refers to the total number of votesb that were at the control of the IEBC - Jubilee Mafia. These votes could be accessed remotely, transferred, marked "voted" and added to any candidate - even MCAs at will.

2. Like today, they are found all over the country. Some or most have legitimately registered to vote but on voting day will find their names "missing", transferred hundreds of miles away and marked as "already voted". The Remote voting group "votes" then the ballot stuffing group (at KU) prepares the right number of ballots and ensures they are delivered to the polling station and introduced in the rest. If not before counting, during counting or after in storage (in case of court ordered recounts)

This has been limited by reducing the number of polling stations and the demand that the IEBC publish the number of voters per polling station etc. However this does not eliminate fake polling stations or streams at polling stations. Streams which will not be seen but voting will be "taking place" remotely.

In brief.

[vooke]

KM

The 2M is not cited in the simplistic manner that is being celebrated now.

1. 2M refers to the total number of votesb that were at the control of the IEBC - Jubilee Mafia. These votes could be accessed remotely, transferred, marked "voted" and added to any candidate - even MCAs at will.

2. Like today, they are found all over the country. Some or most have legitimately registered to vote but on voting day will find their names "missing", transferred hundreds of miles away and marked as "already voted". The Remote voting group "votes" then the ballot stuffing group (at KU) prepares the right number of ballots and ensures they are delivered to the polling station and introduced in the rest. If not before counting, during counting or after in storage (in case of court ordered recounts)

This has been limited by reducing the number of polling stations and the demand that the IEBC publish the number of voters per polling station etc. However this does not eliminate fake polling stations or streams at polling stations. Streams which will not be seen but voting will be "taking place" remotely.

In brief.

Weed

You must worship Babu for you also have evidence of secret underground crematoriums in Nyanza that roasted poor jaluos understating the PEV casualties

Your ability to conjure bs out of your rear is legendary

[Omollo]

Hassan produced this crap years after the poll and it underwent a lot of sanitization based on his position that the results announced earlier were provisional. He granted himself unlimited powers to doctor the entire garbage. Even looking at it amounts to an abuse to one's eye.

But you are free to parade them. They were only useful in getting the courts to take away those tinkering powers.

I'm not fighting nothing, just telling you that 2M is madness. Besides, the 458K is the total sum of all the variances. Stupid maths for obvious reasons; the variances overlap

[vooke]

Hassan produced this crap years after the poll and it underwent a lot of sanitization based on his position that the results announced earlier were provisional. He granted himself unlimited powers to doctor the entire garbage. Even looking at it amounts to an abuse to one's eye.

But you are free to parade them. They were only useful in getting the courts to take away those tinkering powers.

I'm not fighting nothing, just telling you that 2M is madness. Besides, the 458K is the total sum of all the variances. Stupid maths for obvious reasons; the variances overlap

The results were out from day one.

Do you have the 'original' figures?

Between your rear and IEBC you can easily guess where I go for facts

[Omollo]

Like I promised you, you have chosen ad hominem and I will deliver, have no doubt. Everything in its time. For now I will try to help you.

If you search this board, you will find an article - not written by me - which has the same details. I am still trying to find your comments on it.

That said, what in what I have written do you find untenable and on what basis.

KM

The 2M is not cited in the simplistic manner that is being celebrated now.

1. 2M refers to the total number of votesb that were at the control of the IEBC - Jubilee Mafia. These votes could be accessed remotely, transferred, marked "voted" and added to any candidate - even MCAs at will.

2. Like today, they are found all over the country. Some or most have legitimately registered to vote but on voting day will find their names "missing", transferred hundreds of miles away and marked as "already voted". The Remote voting group "votes" then the ballot stuffing group (at KU) prepares the right number of ballots and ensures they are delivered to the polling station and introduced in the rest. If not before counting, during counting or after in storage (in case of court ordered recounts)

This has been limited by reducing the number of polling stations and the demand that the IEBC publish the number of voters per polling station etc. However this does not eliminate fake polling stations or streams at polling stations. Streams which will not be seen but voting will be "taking place" remotely.

In brief.

Weed

You must worship Babu for you also have evidence of secret underground crematoriums in Nyanza that roasted poor jaluos understating the PEV casualties

Your ability to conjure bs out of your rear is legendary

[vooke]

Like I promised you, you have chosen ad hominem and I will deliver, have no doubt. Everything in its time. For now I will try to help you.

If you search this board, you will find an article - not written by me - which has the same details. I am still trying to find your comments on it.

That said, what in what I have written do you find untenable and on what basis.

KM

The 2M is not cited in the simplistic manner that is being celebrated now.

1. 2M refers to the total number of votesb that were at the control of the IEBC - Jubilee Mafia. These votes could be accessed remotely, transferred, marked "voted" and added to any candidate - even MCAs at will.

2. Like today, they are found all over the country. Some or most have legitimately registered to vote but on voting day will find their names "missing", transferred hundreds of miles away and marked as "already voted". The Remote voting group "votes" then the ballot stuffing group (at KU) prepares the right number of ballots and ensures they are delivered to the polling station and introduced in the rest. If not before counting, during counting or after in storage (in case of court ordered recounts)

This has been limited by reducing the number of polling stations and the demand that the IEBC publish the number of voters per polling station etc. However this does not eliminate fake polling stations or streams at polling stations. Streams which will not be seen but voting will be "taking place" remotely.

In brief.

Weed

You must worship Babu for you also have evidence of secret underground crematoriums in Nyanza that roasted poor jaluos understating the PEV casualties

Your ability to conjure bs out of your rear is legendary

Get the article FIRST and leave me to get the comments myself...wait, I will delete them so do it and take screenshots. Mighty sure you're deleting your BS

[Omollo]

vooke

are you drunk or high on something

I would want to get in to a fight with an inebriated retard

The results were out from day one.

Do you have the 'original' figures?

Between your rear and IEBC you can easily guess where I go for facts

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2013/07/15/final-election-results-out-in-september-iebc_c801948

[vooke]

vooke

are you drunk or high on something

I would want to get in to a fight with an inebriated retard

The results were out from day one.

Do you have the 'original' figures?

Between your rear and IEBC you can easily guess where I go for facts

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2013/07/15/final-election-results-out-in-september-iebc_c801948

Where's the thread?

[patel]

looks like Uhuru is slowly walking away from rigging scheme, I hear he is pretty mad with kalenjin mafia for murdering Musando. kalenjin mafia mainly Farouk kibet is determined to stop Kenyans from taking their country back.