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Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« on: September 19, 2014, 06:54:51 AM »
Please tell me this is a joke, Uhuru is outsourcing rural electrification to a musician only heavens know what
will come out of this but it has doom written over it.....Akon Naija manager must be laughing all the way to the bank




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Senegalese singer, Akon has committed to light up Kibera slums as part of a major government led transformation of the slum to a modern neighbourhood.

Akon made the promise during a meeting with President Uhuru Kenyatta at State House Nairobi on Thursday. Akon trip to Kenya is a follow up of another meeting in Washington DC during the US-Africa Summit in August.

Akon met with Energy CS Davis Chirchir, Kenya Power MD Ben Chumo, President's Private Secretary Jomo Gecaga and Rural Electrification CEO and agreed on specifics for implementation that with be carried by Akon Light Africa Project.

Akon will also participate in the rural electrification process and will hold another meeting with Rural Electrification Authority to finalize on specifics.

Other initiatives to transform Kibera include one led by Devolution CS Anne Waiguru through the NYS and another to reconstruct all Roads in Kibera spearheaded by Roads CS Michael Kamau.

Lands and Housing CS Charity Ngilu will also start the Modern housing programme for Kibera.
- See more at: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-190543/akon-promise-light-kibera-slum-during-meeting-uhuru#sthash.mBqXWJwB.dpuf

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2014, 07:05:15 AM »
Akon? As in the "n" singer? He swears a lot in his music about being locked up etc. this is very irresponsible.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2014, 07:19:03 AM »
Biggest ripoff of our time. If you read the book confession of the economic hit man, one of the major item that these guys would pimp to presidents
is electrification and how this would transform an area or country. In this one i see uhuru hands and some shadow company set up to rip off kenyan taxpayer. Btwn akon manager is a naija based in ATL well versed in that game. Uhuru thinks Akon will entice america musician to come donate or invest in kenya.................how many electrification project has Akon under taken in Senegal or America?  If uhuru want to give Akon something to do maybe he can pay him to sing praise to uhuru or jubilee government.......stima ina wenyewe

Akon? As in the "n" singer? He swears a lot in his music about being locked up etc. this is very irresponsible.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2014, 07:25:39 AM »
Kibera is already electrified by gangs charging the fee.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2014, 07:34:30 AM »
i thought Jubilee manifesto specifically stated that they were going to create slumlords millionaires by subdividing slum land and issuing title deeds so the owners can take loans and build slum scrappers? where did this idea of bringing in rappers to upgrade slums come from?

Kibera is already electrified by gangs charging the fee.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2014, 08:09:49 AM »
Who's that little loud mouth? Forgot his name but the one who dresses like trash to parliament. I wonder if he was behind. Uhuru must think Kenya's a joke.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2014, 08:14:18 AM »
Yes before they realized they were little men without any greatest bestowed upon them to take on such courageous project that won't involve them eating...so now we are bootstrapping with rappers proceeds.

This is when Uhuru executive order would be more effective.

i thought Jubilee manifesto specifically stated that they were going to create slumlords millionaires by subdividing slum land and issuing title deeds so the owners can take loans and build slum scrappers? where did this idea of bringing in rappers to upgrade slums come from?

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2014, 08:24:46 AM »
That's NOT rapper proceeds. A "charity" can't cover a project of that scale. That's a cover for something else. It needs to be investigated.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2014, 01:26:17 PM »

This deal was sealed after they shared a major msokoto... hapo hapo state house




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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 02:44:55 PM »
To end a "slum" is simple. Let me over-simplify:

1. Construct a modern sewage and drainage system covering every inch of the slum;
2. Allow people to connect to it for free;
3. Construct a modern road network;
4. Network stepped down electricity in the entire area
5. Whatever you do, start with a water system. It is best if the water is "free" and reliable

The slum then dies slowly of "natural causes". Houses are renewed and others demolished and modern ones put up by the owners.

Catch: If you fail to extend cleansing, (people centred) security, and maintenance services, all the above will go to waste. I would recommend buying street cleaning machines which would keep the roads open.

All the other things are just meant to MAINTAIN the slum.
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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2014, 03:04:13 PM »
Ole Ole: Be open minded. We've tried many sources to upgrade Slums. One mainstream, well connected was the former MP of Kibera. He couldn't even build a choo. Let's try new sourcing.
Malaki 3:16 "Then they that feared the LORD spoke often one to another: and the LORD listened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought on his name."

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2014, 03:26:14 PM »
Ole Ole: Be open minded. We've tried many sources to upgrade Slums. One mainstream, well connected was the former MP of Kibera. He couldn't even build a choo. Let's try new sourcing.
Are you sure you are not buying in to Jubilee and KI propaganda? How many choos are in the housing scheme Raila started?
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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2014, 03:29:37 PM »
Won't work. Nobody will invest money without the security of a title deed.That to me is the bottomline. You can sink millions to build a flat but gov can demolish it or gangs can take over it.

The way forward is to allocate sectional titles to Kibera residents....so one plot can have 100 families...in shares..they can then flip those shares or jointly build.

To end a "slum" is simple. Let me over-simplify:

1. Construct a modern sewage and drainage system covering every inch of the slum;
2. Allow people to connect to it for free;
3. Construct a modern road network;
4. Network stepped down electricity in the entire area
5. Whatever you do, start with a water system. It is best if the water is "free" and reliable

The slum then dies slowly of "natural causes". Houses are renewed and others demolished and modern ones put up by the owners.

Catch: If you fail to extend cleansing, (people centred) security, and maintenance services, all the above will go to waste. I would recommend buying street cleaning machines which would keep the roads open.

All the other things are just meant to MAINTAIN the slum.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2014, 03:35:40 PM »
Omollo: Haiya!, you have short memory lol. That's Baba Jimmy's project

Ole Ole: Be open minded. We've tried many sources to upgrade Slums. One mainstream, well connected was the former MP of Kibera. He couldn't even build a choo. Let's try new sourcing.
Are you sure you are not buying in to Jubilee and KI propaganda? How many choos are in the housing scheme Raila started?
Malaki 3:16 "Then they that feared the LORD spoke often one to another: and the LORD listened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought on his name."

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2014, 03:38:25 PM »
Won't work. Nobody will invest money without the security of a title deed.That to me is the bottomline. You can sink millions to build a flat but gov can demolish it or gangs can take over it.

The way forward is to allocate sectional titles to Kibera residents....so one plot can have 100 families...in shares..they can then flip those shares or jointly build.
Individuals and private people don't invest in public infrastructure that frequently - not that it hasn't been done or cannot be done. My unstated target is of course the National and County governments. The county Government can extend the sewage and Drainage system to Kibera slums, just like they have done in parts of the same area from Karanja Road to Adams.

Once that is done, the titles you speak of will be more attractive than Kengen share IPO
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2014, 03:41:02 PM »
Omollo: Haiya!, you have short memory lol. That's Baba Jimmy's project
Please try to be objective for your own credibility, that's all I am asking. Repeating those jingoist statements meant to promote hate by pillorying a person is not very helpful. I get where you are going and have to pass.
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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2014, 03:45:14 PM »
In the years Jakuon Mohammed presided as King of Kibera, what did he accomplish? Usilie machozi wakati kazi inafanyika. The people of Kibera must continue to suffer at whatever cost for Jakuon to maintain his perpetual stranglehold on them. This is a multi-nation charity initiative, Jaconists are indeed a special breed, to reject anything, even that which is free or subsidised, that does not come from their goD
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Please tell me this is a joke, Uhuru is outsourcing rural electrification to a musician only heavens know what
will come out of this but it has doom written over it.....Akon Naija manager must be laughing all the way to the bank

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2014, 03:48:23 PM »
RVP/Omollo: Both your points are valid to some extent. changing these ghettos will require collaborative effort between government and private initiative. Places like Kibera and other slums located on very prime real estate can be candidates to mega urban renewal projects.

Won't work. Nobody will invest money without the security of a title deed.That to me is the bottomline. You can sink millions to build a flat but gov can demolish it or gangs can take over it.

The way forward is to allocate sectional titles to Kibera residents....so one plot can have 100 families...in shares..they can then flip those shares or jointly build.
Individuals and private people don't invest in public infrastructure that frequently - not that it hasn't been done or cannot be done. My unstated target is of course the National and County governments. The county Government can extend the sewage and Drainage system to Kibera slums, just like they have done in parts of the same area from Karanja Road to Adams.

Once that is done, the titles you speak of will be more attractive than Kengen share IPO
Malaki 3:16 "Then they that feared the LORD spoke often one to another: and the LORD listened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought on his name."

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2014, 03:48:30 PM »
We are on the same page. Gov should of course invest in public infrastructure but that will not eliminate the minimal investment (cartoons and ironsheet) from the individual slum holders. Kibera has water, electricity and somewhat good roads given there is barely space to walk with legs. What is needed and which won't cost gov a dime...is to issue title deed to all slum resident owning structures...they will probably kill each other in allotment...but it has to be done.

Rural slum resident (landless) are being given land every yr.

Urban slums resident are not. Ngilu should issue title deed to Kibera residences..randomly..and in few yrs..there will be no slum there.

Individuals and private people don't invest in public infrastructure that frequently - not that it hasn't been done or cannot be done. My unstated target is of course the National and County governments. The county Government can extend the sewage and Drainage system to Kibera slums, just like they have done in parts of the same area from Karanja Road to Adams.

Once that is done, the titles you speak of will be more attractive than Kengen share IPO

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2014, 04:32:07 PM »
We are on the same page. Gov should of course invest in public infrastructure but that will not eliminate the minimal investment (cartoons and ironsheet) from the individual slum holders. Kibera has water, electricity and somewhat good roads given there is barely space to walk with legs. What is needed and which won't cost gov a dime...is to issue title deed to all slum resident owning structures...they will probably kill each other in allotment...but it has to be done.

Rural slum resident (landless) are being given land every yr.

Urban slums resident are not. Ngilu should issue title deed to Kibera residences..randomly..and in few yrs..there will be no slum there.
1. The Irons sheets are not to be interfered with. They disappear on their own;
2. The mistake made is to imagine one can put up high quality houses in a slum and they would be any different. If you look at the architectural history of Kibera, it has been "improving" with time without ever ceasing to be a slum. Form grass thatched houses to mabati and now bricks and blocks. Yet it remains a slum.
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