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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2017, 01:12:04 PM »
I don't understand...what is the connection to the story?

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2017, 01:14:47 PM »
I don't understand...what is the connection to the story?

The lone gunman was a Somali hawker who had gone to the farm to collect his dues. Turns out he had some weapons training.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2017, 01:30:05 PM »
Interesting - I guess they need to dig deeper into that hakwer -- must have been alshabaab gathering intelligence.

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2017, 01:44:45 PM »
vooke

where do you get the weapons training bit? Where did you get the idea that he was a GUN man?

Who trained him?
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2017, 02:22:40 PM »
Now fresh details show that
one policeman was killed, his gouged out and his ulimi sliced. another stabbed. Anyway this could be a lone wariaha gone beserk. These guys no cowards and some of them have know how to handle firearms better than our inept security forces

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/New-details-emerge-Sugoi-attack/1056-4038198-1480g03/index.html

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2017, 03:54:03 PM »
vooke

where do you get the weapons training bit? Where did you get the idea that he was a GUN man?

Who trained him?

I could tell you,but I'd have to kill you
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2017, 03:54:53 PM »
I am surprised anyone believes there was an attack.  Bullshit.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2017, 04:19:33 PM »
Yeah this was bullshiet

I am surprised anyone believes there was an attack.  Bullshit.

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2017, 04:27:53 PM »
Yeah this was bullshiet

I am surprised anyone believes there was an attack.  Bullshit.

What is the story behind this one?  Is he the guy who overpowered a guard with a panga? 
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2017, 05:05:16 PM »
I think so. He later killed a cop, cut his tounge and wore his clothes. A real bullshitter.Who all along has been acting as hawker.
What is the story behind this one?  Is he the guy who overpowered a guard with a panga? 

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2017, 05:29:52 PM »
I think so. He later killed a cop, cut his tounge and wore his clothes. A real bullshitter.Who all along has been acting as hawker.
What is the story behind this one?  Is he the guy who overpowered a guard with a panga? 

If he single handedly puts that place on hold for 24 hours, Seal Team 6 is missing an operator.  The obvious question is why didn't he have a gun to begin with?  Who seriously plans to take on the DP's detail armed with a panga?

If he is just a nutcase, then recce unit should be disbanded for incompetence. 

This shit is extraordinary.  I need to see some extraordinary evidence.  Whoever gave that narrative should also contact Nollywood for a scriptwriter's gig.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2017, 05:42:04 PM »
1) We don't know everything now 2) He had GSU officer as hostage 2) secondly Ruto wanted him captured alive- it would have been easy to just throw a grenade and end the charade. I have seen such hostage including in the US where one guy with plastic pipe held FBI/CIA/Police for hours.
This one is Alabama - took a week! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Alabama_bunker_hostage_crisis
If he single handedly puts that place on hold for 24 hours, Seal Team 6 is missing an operator.  The obvious question is why didn't he have a gun to begin with?  Who seriously plans to take on the DP's detail armed with a panga?

If he is just a nutcase, then recce unit should be disbanded for incompetence. 

This shit is extraordinary.  I need to see some extraordinary evidence.  Whoever gave that narrative should also contact Nollywood for a scriptwriter's gig.

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2017, 06:02:22 PM »
OMG!! Pundit, you are really spinning this yarn. Kenyans are tired with these games and that is why you guys are losing this election so decisively.

1) We don't know everything now 2) He had GSU officer as hostage 2) secondly Ruto wanted him captured alive- it would have been easy to just throw a grenade and end the charade. I have seen such hostage including in the US where one guy with plastic pipe held FBI/CIA/Police for hours.
This one is Alabama - took a week! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Alabama_bunker_hostage_crisis
If he single handedly puts that place on hold for 24 hours, Seal Team 6 is missing an operator.  The obvious question is why didn't he have a gun to begin with?  Who seriously plans to take on the DP's detail armed with a panga?

If he is just a nutcase, then recce unit should be disbanded for incompetence. 

This shit is extraordinary.  I need to see some extraordinary evidence.  Whoever gave that narrative should also contact Nollywood for a scriptwriter's gig.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2017, 06:03:44 PM »
OMG!! Pundit, you are really spinning this yarn. Kenyans are tired with these games and that is why you guys are losing this election so decisively.

1) We don't know everything now 2) He had GSU officer as hostage 2) secondly Ruto wanted him captured alive- it would have been easy to just throw a grenade and end the charade. I have seen such hostage including in the US where one guy with plastic pipe held FBI/CIA/Police for hours.
This one is Alabama - took a week! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Alabama_bunker_hostage_crisis
If he single handedly puts that place on hold for 24 hours, Seal Team 6 is missing an operator.  The obvious question is why didn't he have a gun to begin with?  Who seriously plans to take on the DP's detail armed with a panga?

If he is just a nutcase, then recce unit should be disbanded for incompetence. 

This shit is extraordinary.  I need to see some extraordinary evidence.  Whoever gave that narrative should also contact Nollywood for a scriptwriter's gig.
No  bigger yarn that fantasizing a police-KDF wide conspiracy theory of a staged attack
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2017, 06:06:39 PM »
1) We don't know everything now 2) He had GSU officer as hostage 2) secondly Ruto wanted him captured alive- it would have been easy to just throw a grenade and end the charade. I have seen such hostage including in the US where one guy with plastic pipe held FBI/CIA/Police for hours.
This one is Alabama - took a week! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Alabama_bunker_hostage_crisis
If he single handedly puts that place on hold for 24 hours, Seal Team 6 is missing an operator.  The obvious question is why didn't he have a gun to begin with?  Who seriously plans to take on the DP's detail armed with a panga?

If he is just a nutcase, then recce unit should be disbanded for incompetence. 

This shit is extraordinary.  I need to see some extraordinary evidence.  Whoever gave that narrative should also contact Nollywood for a scriptwriter's gig.

I will wait and see who they say this guy is.  I find each of those claims 1) and 2) implausible and each requiring its own set of evidence.

The example you cite in Alabama is true and I even remember following the story; they definitely were focused on saving the life of the young hostage.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2017, 06:10:35 PM »
And here is the yarn WSR is spinning.


Deputy President William Ruto has asked Kenyans not to be distracted by schemes and plots by those working to bring down the unity achieved in the country.
Ruto said attack of his rural home in Sugoi in Uasin Gishu County was part of the machinations to frustrate Kenyans as the country is headed to the August 8 General Election.
Speaking at General Ihura stadium during confirmation of Bishop Timothy Gichere as the fourth Bishop of Mt Kenya Central ACK Diocese, the DP said Kenyans should remain focused and elect credible leaders with passion to unite the communities.
"Jana nilipata wageni wabaya kule Kwangu na hii ni njia tu ya kusumbua ushirikiano wa hapa nchini (yesterday there were unwanted guests in my home and their motive was to undermine and frustrate the existing unity which we have nurtured)," Ruto noted.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
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And here is the yarn WSR is spinning.


Deputy President William Ruto has asked Kenyans not to be distracted by schemes and plots by those working to bring down the unity achieved in the country.
Ruto said attack of his rural home in Sugoi in Uasin Gishu County was part of the machinations to frustrate Kenyans as the country is headed to the August 8 General Election.
Speaking at General Ihura stadium during confirmation of Bishop Timothy Gichere as the fourth Bishop of Mt Kenya Central ACK Diocese, the DP said Kenyans should remain focused and elect credible leaders with passion to unite the communities.
"Jana nilipata wageni wabaya kule Kwangu na hii ni njia tu ya kusumbua ushirikiano wa hapa nchini (yesterday there were unwanted guests in my home and their motive was to undermine and frustrate the existing unity which we have nurtured)," Ruto noted.

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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2017, 06:42:43 PM »


And here is the yarn WSR is spinning.


Deputy President William Ruto has asked Kenyans not to be distracted by schemes and plots by those working to bring down the unity achieved in the country.
Ruto said attack of his rural home in Sugoi in Uasin Gishu County was part of the machinations to frustrate Kenyans as the country is headed to the August 8 General Election.
Speaking at General Ihura stadium during confirmation of Bishop Timothy Gichere as the fourth Bishop of Mt Kenya Central ACK Diocese, the DP said Kenyans should remain focused and elect credible leaders with passion to unite the communities.
"Jana nilipata wageni wabaya kule Kwangu na hii ni njia tu ya kusumbua ushirikiano wa hapa nchini (yesterday there were unwanted guests in my home and their motive was to undermine and frustrate the existing unity which we have nurtured)," Ruto noted.
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2017, 06:51:19 PM »
Interesting - I guess they need to dig deeper into that hakwer -- must have been alshabaab gathering intelligence.

If he was a Somali, then he was definitely Al Kebab.   Right?   Still, attacking a guard with a panga seems to be an odd way to gather intelligence.  But if the lone "knifeman" was indeed Al Kebab, then it explains why lots of police, regular GSU, REECE were involved in what the Daily Nation has described as a "heavy offensive" that took the better part of a day and a night.  Those Al Kebabs are something else!
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Re: Who's attacking DPORK's Sugoi Home?
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2017, 07:07:24 PM »
Interesting - I guess they need to dig deeper into that hakwer -- must have been alshabaab gathering intelligence.

If he was a Somali, then he was definitely Al Kebab.   Right?   Still, attacking a guard with a panga seems to be an odd way to gather intelligence.  But if the lone "knifeman" was indeed Al Kebab, then it explains why lots of police, regular GSU, REECE were involved in what the Daily Nation has described as a "heavy offensive" that took the better part of a day and a night.  Those Al Kebabs are something else!

If you are to believe the rationalization by Pundit, the massive offensive was merely to ensure the attacker comes out alive because the hustler didn't want him to be killed.  Most of the gunfire? The pangaman shooting at the cops who could not return fire in case they kill him.

I can't make sense of what was going on yesterday.  It might even have been something utterly "harmless".  But the explanations just raise my bullshit meter.
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