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Why 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built flats
« on: July 10, 2017, 09:43:24 AM »
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Re: Why 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built flats
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2017, 04:08:04 PM »
Am not a socialist but when you have 80% of the people living in slums and then turn around and call yourselves developed, its a problem. If you visited some parts of Mississippi youl want to go and live in MAthare.

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Re: Why 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built flats
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 04:52:37 PM »
Am not a socialist but when you have 80% of the people living in slums and then turn around and call yourselves developed, its a problem. If you visited some parts of Mississippi youl want to go and live in MAthare.

How is Mississipi relevant to what is in Singapore?   And I take it you have never been to Singapore.    The "public housing" is generally of high standards, especially what has been built in the last 20 years, and are continually upgraded by the government.   These are not the "projects" of the USA or the undesirable stuff you find in public housing in most countries (including Western).  Moreover, almost all of the housing is public in name only: the occupants don't rent; the government does the building and then sells cheaply to the citizens.
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Re: Why 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built flats
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 06:01:18 PM »
Kenya keeps benchmarking itself with these countries while doing the exact opposite of what they did.

I have just read another article on plans of cartels to sell Nairobi water company to French company after mismanagement and shelling it out www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/10/city-hall-under-pressure-to-shelve-alleged-nairobi-water-company-sale_c1594277?platform=hootsuite
It's commendable that singapore has done something to break ethnic enclaves typical in Nairobi eg Indians in Parklands and Chinese who are now conglomerating.

And also another predator USA company BETCHEL has set base in Nairobi. It bet it will begin to loby for massive privatisation of public services (water, roads, etc)

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Re: Why 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built flats
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 06:29:08 PM »
RVT

This has been my position all along.

Talk to the likes of HK and Pundit and you keep hearing crap about Private capital etc. Most of the gambling that is called "Property Market" starts with the government building a majority of those properties. Then the local thieves begin to demand that they be "privatized". Once that is done the gambling starts.

The reason the bubble in Kenya remains so high is simple: Lack of public investment. The day the state gets in the provision of real housing - not this pretence of milking citizens of their cash - is the day you will begin to see some real bankruptcies and cries of "rescue" etc.

My position remains that government must end the guarantee of land or even mention of landlessness and concentrate on provision of shelter. The Right to Shelter and Income should trump all others.

Kenya keeps benchmarking itself with these countries while doing the exact opposite of what they did.

I have just read another article on plans of cartels to sell Nairobi water company to French company after mismanagement and shelling it out www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/10/city-hall-under-pressure-to-shelve-alleged-nairobi-water-company-sale_c1594277?platform=hootsuite
It's commendable that singapore has done something to break ethnic enclaves typical in Nairobi eg Indians in Parklands and Chinese who are now conglomerating.

And also another predator USA company BETCHEL has set base in Nairobi. It bet it will begin to loby for massive privatisation of public services (water, roads, etc)
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