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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2017, 07:45:44 PM »
Soon people will understand why I call RV pundit Baghdad Bob it's because of this kind nonsense here you have an Internet yahoo thinking he is smarter than Dr. Ndii.....what's is so complicated about what Dr. Ndii said?
1. Zero tolerance to corruption means you do not tolerate corruption if you are finger with matter corruption the party document on conduct and behavior should have you resign while the legal part take its course. Why this has failed because of uhuru and executive meddling to protect their interest and their friends
2. Why institutions are failing, due to conflict of interest he gave a good example of Brookside and KCC
3. Extrajudicial killing he explained this is a human right issue fully addressed by the constitution
4. Debt he explained uhuru is 4 trillion in debt. The bus is already in a ditch courtesy of uhuru insatiable appetite to syndicated loans.
Etc etc like Ndii said this is not rocket science

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2017, 08:34:34 PM »
Ourutu brand of politics has immunized themselves against charges of  corruption  by creating a moral equivalent "everybody is corrupt and therefore nobody has the moral authority to lecture anybody on corruption".  Both Kiguta and Okwara believed this was a "slam dunk  gotcha" question and therefore when Ndii gave them a more sophisticated answer they had not anticipated, Ms. Kiguta never recovered and became hostile  unlike Ms. Okwara who handled the frustration a little better.

Soon people will understand why I call RV pundit Baghdad Bob it's because of this kind nonsense here you have an Internet yahoo thinking he is smarter than Dr. Ndii.....what's is so complicated about what Dr. Ndii said?
1. Zero tolerance to corruption means you do not tolerate corruption if you are finger with matter corruption the party document on conduct and behavior should have you resign while the legal part take its course. Why this has failed because of uhuru and executive meddling to protect their interest and their friends
2. Why institutions are failing, due to conflict of interest he gave a good example of Brookside and KCC
3. Extrajudicial killing he explained this is a human right issue fully addressed by the constitution
4. Debt he explained uhuru is 4 trillion in debt. The bus is already in a ditch courtesy of uhuru insatiable appetite to syndicated loans.
Etc etc like Ndii said this is not rocket science
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2017, 09:35:39 PM »
Km and Patel

Kenya got derailed. A simple train derailment lasts about a few minutes to a day or two depending on how much damage occurred to the line. In our case Kenya suffered a long term derailment from 1966 to 2010. For two years near normal service resumed until March 2013 when the forces of derailment hit us again and drove the new train into a ditch.

This election is about salvaging the train and putting it back on tracks.

The mistake made in 2010 was to leave the NIS intact. The NIS should have been disbanded and recreated in multiple units independent of each other. All the files they kept about ordinary people should have been opened for the public and their activities made public through a commission of inquiry.

A museum should have been created out of Nyayo house and Nyati House for ordinary citizens to see the extent of state terrorism against her own citizens.

As of now my view is that we do not need such an organization in Kenya. If we do it should concentrate on external intelligence gathering and prevention of espionage.

We must strengthen the regular police and the CID but heavily punish illegal activities by the police.

Countries like India and Pakistan have such institutions but do not engage in political espionage. They may obtain political information but unless there is a whiff of treason or espionage they avoid including this in the daily briefing given to the prime minister or chief of defense.

What pleasure does Uhuru get from listening to Raila speaking to his wife? Or his kids? He should ask himself if he would be comfortable his own conversations with members of his family being taped to entertain Raila. This must change. No change can take place while the NIS is intact.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2017, 10:51:25 PM »
This is based on what. Maybe the Koran that is suppose to be read in Arabic otherwise the meaning is lost? This is nonsense - the manifesto like constitution ought to be written in plain simple language - it a contract btw GOK and it's citizen - if you cannot explain it in plain simple english - then it probably is no good. The economist or the lawyers will know how to translate that into actionable plans.

What NASA did is the reverse...they have given a concoction even Raila himself has a problem explaining.

Indeed.  If he tried to speak in plainer language it would have been insulting to her and the audience.  She looked like someone forced her to be there.
 Hussein Mohamed is a more credible interviewer.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2017, 09:10:45 AM »
So apparently it wasn't Anna Kiguta fault but NASA has two manifesto - Dr Ndii complicated concoction and Jimmy Wanjigi list of tenders/projects.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2017, 11:14:19 AM »
So apparently it wasn't Anna Kiguta fault but NASA has two manifesto - Dr Ndii complicated concoction and Jimmy Wanjigi list of tenders/projects.

Ndii let out a lot in that article; conflict in NASA, he admits the parallel manifesto exists and so forth.

But I agree with you; he failed miserably in articulating economics in mwananichi terms.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2017, 11:27:22 AM »
Hey Pastor Vooke - I am really glad to see you here. At some point somebody said you had an accident in your subaru and had died :)
Ndii let out a lot in that article; conflict in NASA, he admits the parallel manifesto exists and so forth.

But I agree with you; he failed miserably in articulating economics in mwananichi terms.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2017, 01:38:29 PM »
Hey Pastor Vooke - I am really glad to see you here. At some point somebody said you had an accident in your subaru and had died :)

Hi Pundito,
No sir I'm still a live; I can assure you. Glad that this place is still around
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2017, 03:46:58 PM »
First and foremost, there is only one manifesto.  Second, I do not know which wanaichi are complaining that Ndii's explanations were above their head. How would you know?  I bet you count those jubilee applause lines in centro and North Rift, like "Raila is the lord of poverty", as "articulating economics to Wanjiku". 

So apparently it wasn't Anna Kiguta fault but NASA has two manifesto - Dr Ndii complicated concoction and Jimmy Wanjigi list of tenders/projects.

Ndii let out a lot in that article; conflict in NASA, he admits the parallel manifesto exists and so forth.

But I agree with you; he failed miserably in articulating economics in mwananichi terms.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2017, 04:18:26 PM »
Apart from free secondary which they copied from Jubilee - Mwananchi doesn't know what NASA stands for. Not that it's matter for many votes. It just matters for us here as "intellectual" and Dr Ndii did a poor job explaining it.
First and foremost, there is only one manifesto.  Second, I do not know which wanaichi are complaining that Ndii's explanations were above their head. How would you know?  I bet you count those jubilee applause lines in centro and North Rift, like "Raila is the lord of poverty", as "articulating economics to Wanjiku". 

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2017, 05:00:27 PM »
Please present a little evidence to back this claim which you are soon losing your head over.

Yes, Uhuru promised FREE Secondary education to start in 2015. He FAILED. Should NASA still wait for 2015? He then claimed he will start it by 2017, it is nowhere. He simply lied.

NASA is saying No More lies! The education will start on First September this year, not next or three years from now. How is that a copy cat?

NASA is soon outlining a comprehensive school feeding program. Will jubilee claim we stole that too? When Jubilee promised FREE milk to school children and simply ignored?

Watch out Patel's nickname for you may just stick - not least because you too are into nicknames.


Apart from free secondary which they copied from Jubilee - Mwananchi doesn't know what NASA stands for. Not that it's matter for many votes. It just matters for us here as "intellectual" and Dr Ndii did a poor job explaining it.
First and foremost, there is only one manifesto.  Second, I do not know which wanaichi are complaining that Ndii's explanations were above their head. How would you know?  I bet you count those jubilee applause lines in centro and North Rift, like "Raila is the lord of poverty", as "articulating economics to Wanjiku". 
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2017, 05:16:48 PM »
Which manifesto are we talking about - the blue one or the green one :)
Please present a little evidence to back this claim which you are soon losing your head over.

Yes, Uhuru promised FREE Secondary education to start in 2015. He FAILED. Should NASA still wait for 2015? He then claimed he will start it by 2017, it is nowhere. He simply lied.

NASA is saying No More lies! The education will start on First September this year, not next or three years from now. How is that a copy cat?

NASA is soon outlining a comprehensive school feeding program. Will jubilee claim we stole that too? When Jubilee promised FREE milk to school children and simply ignored?

Watch out Patel's nickname for you may just stick - not least because you too are into nicknames.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2017, 05:25:43 PM »
It depends on which color of paper you print it on-its only one.

Which manifesto are we talking about - the blue one or the green one :)
Please present a little evidence to back this claim which you are soon losing your head over.

Yes, Uhuru promised FREE Secondary education to start in 2015. He FAILED. Should NASA still wait for 2015? He then claimed he will start it by 2017, it is nowhere. He simply lied.

NASA is saying No More lies! The education will start on First September this year, not next or three years from now. How is that a copy cat?

NASA is soon outlining a comprehensive school feeding program. Will jubilee claim we stole that too? When Jubilee promised FREE milk to school children and simply ignored?

Watch out Patel's nickname for you may just stick - not least because you too are into nicknames.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2017, 05:37:11 PM »
Why would I print such crap?
It depends on which color of paper you print it on-its only one.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2017, 06:06:53 PM »
This is based on what. Maybe the Koran that is suppose to be read in Arabic otherwise the meaning is lost? This is nonsense - the manifesto like constitution ought to be written in plain simple language - it a contract btw GOK and it's citizen - if you cannot explain it in plain simple english - then it probably is no good. The economist or the lawyers will know how to translate that into actionable plans.

What NASA did is the reverse...they have given a concoction even Raila himself has a problem explaining.

Indeed.  If he tried to speak in plainer language it would have been insulting to her and the audience.  She looked like someone forced her to be there.
 Hussein Mohamed is a more credible interviewer.

I thought he explained it as simply as was possible.  Any simpler and that would be insulting everybody's intelligence.  The KTN interviewer was a little better - she seemed to understand his responses and even gave him a bit of a hard time.  The Hussein guy holds some decent interviews.  When they have people like Ndii coming on, they should hand it to Hussein. 

In any case, the jubilant doesn't vote NASA because of this interview.  So who really cares?
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 06:19:16 PM »
I watched it live and it didn't make sense to me. He was asked a simple quiz. Where is the manifesto? And he said what they had was a policy document. And then proceeded to deny manifesto that came from another wing of NASA. Kiguta really tried being diplomatic.

After spending 4yrs berating Jubilee - Dr Ndii would have done a better job demonstrating his infinite intelligence to NASA.

Indeed.  If he tried to speak in plainer language it would have been insulting to her and the audience.  She looked like someone forced her to be there.
 Hussein Mohamed is a more credible interviewer.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2017, 06:39:50 PM »
Please direct me to the exact spot where Kiguta lays evidence proving she got her manifesto from "another wing of NASA" or stop peddling lies. You now have zero credibility.

The information publicly available and which Kiguta has not denied despite being directly confronted with it is that she got the fake manifesto from the NIS via her husband - Jomo Gecaga.

I watched it live and it didn't make sense to me. He was asked a simple quiz. Where is the manifesto? And he said what they had was a policy document. And then proceeded to deny manifesto that came from another wing of NASA. Kiguta really tried being diplomatic.

After spending 4yrs berating Jubilee - Dr Ndii would have done a better job demonstrating his infinite intelligence to NASA.

Indeed.  If he tried to speak in plainer language it would have been insulting to her and the audience.  She looked like someone forced her to be there.
 Hussein Mohamed is a more credible interviewer.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2017, 06:44:44 PM »
Exactly, I do not know why Pundit is bursting his veins over an interview that will not change the tribal composition of the electorate on 8.8.17

In any case, the jubilant doesn't vote NASA because of this interview.  So who really cares?
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2017, 06:57:18 PM »
Ndii burst their bubble. I think he was part of the group that prepped Anne Kiguta to go and mess up Mudavadi. Then NASA decided to send Ndii having itself learned that she had a fake manifesto.

If you watch, Ndii lets them run the fake manifesto about stadiums etc while silent. He then precludes discussions on the matter and kills gotcha questions by simply stating that whatever the just showed is NOT a NASA manifesto.

They have been smarting over it for days. The defeat was comprehensive when you consider how many men and women came togther to plan how to wreck NASA's manifesto on live TV!

So this morning the embarked on a process of claiming that NASA has multiple manifestos. That is why Pundit is asking you "which one". Again it shows their ignorance rather than ineptitude on NASA's side.

My advice was to let them run wild and then we shall set the record straight using the publicity they have established. Since they have denied NASA access, what better option than to drive them to give it to us willingly or we accuse them of sticky stuff!

They seem to have smelled a rat and have been going slow except the few greedy mongoloids they have in media houses.

Exactly, I do not know why Pundit is bursting his veins over an interview that will not change the tribal composition of the electorate on 8.8.17

In any case, the jubilant doesn't vote NASA because of this interview.  So who really cares?
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2017, 06:59:23 PM »
I watched it live and it didn't make sense to me. He was asked a simple quiz. Where is the manifesto? And he said what they had was a policy document. And then proceeded to deny manifesto that came from another wing of NASA. Kiguta really tried being diplomatic.

After spending 4yrs berating Jubilee - Dr Ndii would have done a better job demonstrating his infinite intelligence to NASA.

Indeed.  If he tried to speak in plainer language it would have been insulting to her and the audience.  She looked like someone forced her to be there.
 Hussein Mohamed is a more credible interviewer.

He said she didn't have the right manifesto.  He also said the manifesto had no implementation details.  She kept asking about things that were not in the manifesto.  He had to call her out on it.  What else is he supposed to do?

I don't know Kiguta, but I still doubt that this is how she is when she is diplomatic.  She had a very shabby attitude towards him.  If that was a first date, anyone could tell it was also the last.  I don't know how anyone cannot see that.
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