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NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« on: June 13, 2017, 10:06:48 AM »
Yesterday I don't think he campaigned and now I am watching him on TV on IEBC talk shop. We are on last days and every day NASA ought to spend on campaign trail. I guess all the trouble in Ukambani/Bungoma are dampening the spirit in NASA.

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2017, 10:17:43 AM »
He knows he has no numbers his hope is gone for

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2017, 10:42:34 AM »
Yesterday I don't think he campaigned and now I am watching him on TV on IEBC talk shop. We are on last days and every day NASA ought to spend on campaign trail. I guess all the trouble in Ukambani/Bungoma are dampening the spirit in NASA.
You stay put for a while then unleash a set of flames.

What problem is Ukambani? Nyenze or Musila?
1. There is nothing new you or NASA didn't know. Nyenze is an Uhuru man who was passing the deliberations of the selection committee to Jubilee. He was discovered and played along with his masters. Some anger was due, expected and prepared for. He was asked if he wants to cross to Jubilee he denied. He got his nomination and thinks he can make noise. Wiper has called him in today so he can state whether he is still a member of has joined Jubilee. Whatever he does, he is not coming back to Parliament through Kitui. And you are free to harvest the votes he will bring to you

2. There was maximum publicity about Musila having defected but nothing when he angrily denied doing so and could prove it.

So what are these troubles in Ukambani? Are they similar to your troubles in Uasin Gishu? Or Pokot? Or Baringo? You have a whole Governor of Bomet joining the opposition and that is not trouble? Your problem has always been spin and spin will bring you down.

Bungoma:
What problems are in Bungoma? Did Lusaka defect from NASA? Or is it the paid unpaid crowd still camping outside Lusaka's office even as I write demanding payment? Too bad for him it is really growing and soon you will send teargas :D :D :D I look forward to the photos of Lusaka beating the crap out of his former supporters

Wasting time at Conference: Remember the story Achebe told of a Snake and his Horse? Uhuru campaigned hard in 2002 while Raila campaigned not so hard for a sick Kibaki. Guess who won?

In 2007 Uhuru campaigned hard for the same Kibaki (perhaps he actually believed the GEMA propaganda that Kibaki won on his own and Raila played no role). Guess what? They both lost and chose to steal! I am not sure if you still agree since you have been burning most of your earlier standpoints as you hero-worship Uhuru Kenyatta

In 2013 they faced each other Umundu-Khumundu: Uhuru lost. He resorted to Kibaki lite and Raila decided an unjust peace is better than a just war.

So let Uhuru keep transporting his voters and posting photoshopped and crowd enhanced images. We shall beat him.

For others genuinely curious: NASA has a well designed program where different teams move around the country. There are other issues which Raila and the principles were required to be together in Nairobi to address and you will be hearing about shortly.



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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2017, 11:24:44 AM »
Trouble in Ukambani has made headlines for last 3 days including today's Nation. I have said enough about Bungoma - I think Ken Lusaka team will get Jubilee max of 30% of Bukusu-Tachoni vote and adding to Kalenjin's Sabaot that could see Jubilee max 40% in Bungoma - and worse case 30%. I am going to watch opinion polls there closely but I believe those are firms numbers.

Regarding campaigns - Moi remain the enigma in terms of campaigning - the energy and seal to carpet bomb the country - is reason why Moi despite coming from very small tribe - managed to win by 40% - and stay in power for unprecedented a quarter of century. Moi simply never stopped campaigning since 1970!

Raila did campaign vigorously in 2002 although it was obvious NARC had won the day they endorsed Kibaki - and he split GEMA into two. I think Ruto has inherited MOI's unrelenting campaign mode - he did it for Moi, Uhuru, Raila and Uhuru and Uhuru - and this will pay off. Uhuru and Ruto just gel so much and stay on message.

Raila main problem as I see.
1) Energy is gone. Old age is catching up with him. He has a problem staying awake.
2) Creativity is gone. He is still reciting the same rehearsed speeches, vitendawilis and sayings.
3) He remain as ever goof prone - he cannot stay on message - there is a lot clean up that has to be done in his wake. Recently he said GOD was urinating on Nandi daily :) that can easily be twisted like when he called Mau people -omena.

Now when you're facing Moi's protege - Ruto - who like Moi would be a roaming pastor if he wasn't a politician - you've got gigantic problems - and you don't want to waste precious time on IEBC talk show. Jubilee are doing very intensive campaigns....and probably have planned the last 60 days to the dot.

You stay put for a while then unleash a set of flames.

What problem is Ukambani? Nyenze or Musila?
1. There is nothing new you or NASA didn't know. Nyenze is an Uhuru man who was passing the deliberations of the selection committee to Jubilee. He was discovered and played along with his masters. Some anger was due, expected and prepared for. He was asked if he wants to cross to Jubilee he denied. He got his nomination and thinks he can make noise. Wiper has called him in today so he can state whether he is still a member of has joined Jubilee. Whatever he does, he is not coming back to Parliament through Kitui. And you are free to harvest the votes he will bring to you

2. There was maximum publicity about Musila having defected but nothing when he angrily denied doing so and could prove it.

So what are these troubles in Ukambani? Are they similar to your troubles in Uasin Gishu? Or Pokot? Or Baringo? You have a whole Governor of Bomet joining the opposition and that is not trouble? Your problem has always been spin and spin will bring you down.

Bungoma:
What problems are in Bungoma? Did Lusaka defect from NASA? Or is it the paid unpaid crowd still camping outside Lusaka's office even as I write demanding payment? Too bad for him it is really growing and soon you will send teargas :D :D :D I look forward to the photos of Lusaka beating the crap out of his former supporters

Wasting time at Conference: Remember the story Achebe told of a Snake and his Horse? Uhuru campaigned hard in 2002 while Raila campaigned not so hard for a sick Kibaki. Guess who won?

In 2007 Uhuru campaigned hard for the same Kibaki (perhaps he actually believed the GEMA propaganda that Kibaki won on his own and Raila played no role). Guess what? They both lost and chose to steal! I am not sure if you still agree since you have been burning most of your earlier standpoints as you hero-worship Uhuru Kenyatta

In 2013 they faced each other Umundu-Khumundu: Uhuru lost. He resorted to Kibaki lite and Raila decided an unjust peace is better than a just war.

So let Uhuru keep transporting his voters and posting photoshopped and crowd enhanced images. We shall beat him.

For others genuinely curious: NASA has a well designed program where different teams move around the country. There are other issues which Raila and the principles were required to be together in Nairobi to address and you will be hearing about shortly.





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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2017, 01:32:56 PM »
Trouble in Ukambani has made headlines for last 3 days including today's Nation.
There is a reason I call the Nation The Ethnic Rag and it is not because it is unbiased, professional or even a media house. It represents the narrow interests of one tribe in Kenya. I have no idea what they have written but the truth is that Musila has not only denied being a Jubilee supporter, he has proved it. The issue of Nyenze is not new. If NASA can pick some colorless Jubilee MP like Senator Njoroge and take his utterances seriously as representing a ground shift in Central, then please take Nyenze as a bullion of electoral gold and be merry. However let me assure you Jubilee has no votes in Ukambani and Luhyaland.

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I have said enough about Bungoma - I think Ken Lusaka team will get Jubilee max of 30% of Bukusu-Tachoni vote and adding to Kalenjin's Sabaot that could see Jubilee max 40% in Bungoma - and worse case 30%. I am going to watch opinion polls there closely but I believe those are firms numbers.
That is the closest you have got to recounting a day time nightmare.
You forgot The Teso sir! The last time you were sure they will give Uhuru 75% (one of those percentages of yours :D :D :D)

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Regarding campaigns - Moi remain the enigma in terms of campaigning - the energy and seal to carpet bomb the country - is reason why Moi despite coming from very small tribe - managed to win by 40% - and stay in power for unprecedented a quarter of century. Moi simply never stopped campaigning since 1970!
You mix fact and fiction in an amazing amalgamation that an ordinary sleepy mind can gloss over unaware that you are peddling a lie.

Let's get it clear: Moi did not come from a small tribe. Moi is a kalenjin. Add the Maasai, Turkana and Samburu and you have a very large group. Kenyatta in dumping Odinga, calculated on those numbers to appoint Moi. Murumbi could not mobilize the kalenjin therefore lost.

If you were not begrudging him his honors, you know Raila probably beats Moi on what you have outlined. There is the "energy" that comes with being at the command of unlimited government resources. If that compares with that of a private citizen, then how could you deny Raila that?

Those who have testified to his energy include the following: Nyachae, Awori (in his auto-biography), Kijana wamalwa, Kibaki, Matu Wamae etc
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Raila did campaign vigorously in 2002 although it was obvious NARC had won the day they endorsed Kibaki - and he split GEMA into two.
Make up your mind whether he campaigned or not. You are torn between saying the truth and your increasing hatred. You see that is where you can never match Omollo. I can hate you but will never begrudge you what is yours.

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I think Ruto has inherited MOI's unrelenting campaign mode - he did it for Moi, Uhuru, Raila and Uhuru and Uhuru - and this will pay off.
Boss, I worked with Ruto - up and close in 2002 before MaDvD returned and I left. He is no Raila and he is no Moi. I know ALL of Ruto's tricks. ALL Pundit. ALL! Keep that in mind. He is no hard worker. Hint: A politician who takes time off to screw women is useless. Hitler probably died celibate. Stalin prefered to sleep with his housekeeper on christmas day (officially banned under communism though he celebrated it!). Kind David almost lost power after he resorted to screwing people's wives. If he stayed faithful to his wife and avoided the love of money for the purpose of becoming wealthy I would take him seriously. I despised him when I found he was a womanizer and money for wealth chaser. In power we seek money to get and keep power. We own money and give it away for specific goals. Never for personal enrichment because power is enough. ( I can't believe I wrote that Moon Ki will have an orgasm for a month at my expense)

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Uhuru and Ruto just gel so much and stay on message.
The lack the message. Did you see what happens when you stay on a message-less message? It is called Teresa May

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Raila main problem as I see.
1) Energy is gone. Old age is catching up with him. He has a problem staying awake.
2) Creativity is gone. He is still reciting the same rehearsed speeches, vitendawilis and sayings.
3) He remain as ever goof prone - he cannot stay on message - there is a lot clean up that has to be done in his wake. Recently he said GOD was urinating on Nandi daily :) that can easily be twisted like when he called Mau people -omena.
AD hominem. No need to address

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Now when you're facing Moi's protege - Ruto - who like Moi would be a roaming pastor if he wasn't a politician - you've got gigantic problems - and you don't want to waste precious time on IEBC talk show. Jubilee are doing very intensive campaigns....and probably have planned the last 60 days to the dot.
I have already responded to this. Ruto is no Moi or Raila.
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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2017, 02:30:17 PM »
Moi was womanizer like Ruto - they thing that works for them is they don't drink - and are really early risers - Ruto is awake and normally in office before 6pm. I know Raila can only make to office by 10 - same case with Uhuru. Raila had energy sometime back - but now that is history - he is tired pale shadow of himself. Dying the hair black obviously will not hide the fact that age has caught up with him and is now spending more time trying to stay awake than doing anything sensible.
Ruto is no Moi or Raila.

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2017, 02:40:30 PM »
Pundit, as far as you are concerned, this elections are over based on tyranny of numbers. Given that premise, why should it matter to you whether Raila campaigns or NOT.


Moi was womanizer like Ruto - they thing that works for them is they don't drink - and are really early risers - Ruto is awake and normally in office before 6pm. I know Raila can only make to office by 10 - same case with Uhuru. Raila had energy sometime back - but now that is history - he is tired pale shadow of himself. Dying the hair black obviously will not hide the fact that age has caught up with him and is now spending more time trying to stay awake than doing anything sensible.
Ruto is no Moi or Raila.
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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2017, 02:48:32 PM »
Moi was womanizer like Ruto - they thing that works for them is they don't drink - and are really early risers - Ruto is awake and normally in office before 6pm. I know Raila can only make to office by 10 - same case with Uhuru. Raila had energy sometime back - but now that is history - he is tired pale shadow of himself. Dying the hair black obviously will not hide the fact that age has caught up with him and is now spending more time trying to stay awake than doing anything sensible.
Ruto is no Moi or Raila.

Your boy finally touched the wrong woman. I have it from my sources that he is suffering from Aids and didn't seek treatment on time. By the way how do you guys survive the current promiscous generation?. I won't touch a Kenyan woman because of fear of contracting AIDS.
I am really disappointed by ruto especially on corruption. He is has been a big let down.

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2017, 02:54:45 PM »
Until the fat lady sings; he need to give his best shot.It's not a bad shot he got. But I am seeing he's given up.
Pundit, as far as you are concerned, this elections are over based on tyranny of numbers. Given that premise, why should it matter to you whether Raila campaigns or NOT.

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 05:32:31 PM »
I just do not understand why the fat lady's singing would make a difference based on your main argument that this elections is over- a mere formality.


Until the fat lady sings; he need to give his best shot.It's not a bad shot he got. But I am seeing he's given up.
Pundit, as far as you are concerned, this elections are over based on tyranny of numbers. Given that premise, why should it matter to you whether Raila campaigns or NOT.
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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 07:22:08 PM »
The Ethnic Rag has been bought. Instead of carrying a retraction following protests by Musila, it hits Kalonzo. Jubilee were very sure Kalonzo would decamp from NASA. Of course Kalonzo knew Nyenze was passing the information and led them on.

It is a pity Jubilee still relies on Nyenze

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 09:29:21 PM »
why should anyone pay attention to Aga khan bloggers aka Nation media. Of course the pressitutes mainly aga khan they have stake in the elections outcome mainly in favor of crackhead uhuru.  Jubilee last stronghold is IEBC and that's where NASA should be pounding day and night. We need the voter register released ASAP as well as a list of all Returning officer. Time to do a deep dive on all returning officers, full disclosure. 

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2017, 02:19:39 AM »
Of course Kalonzo is under siege with all the Ukambani goings on. This election will determine his future and could be his last as a tribal heavyweight.

The Ethnic Rag has been bought. Instead of carrying a retraction following protests by Musila, it hits Kalonzo. Jubilee were very sure Kalonzo would decamp from NASA. Of course Kalonzo knew Nyenze was passing the information and led them on.

It is a pity Jubilee still relies on Nyenze

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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2017, 02:25:23 AM »
The opposition need to do their best for our democracy even if they believed Nipate MOAS. It's how the system works - garner as many numbers to check the governors. Even Le Pen didn't give up in spite of the Macron walkover. I doubt however that Raila and Uhuru are aware of our existence.


I just do not understand why the fat lady's singing would make a difference based on your main argument that this elections is over- a mere formality.
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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2017, 02:45:07 AM »

This elections is only over in the mind of Pundit.  The dude thinks he is God when it comes to predicting elections. What I do not understand is why he is concerned about Raila's campaign if this elections is over.

The opposition need to do their best for our democracy even if they believed Nipate MOAS. It's how the system works - garner as many numbers to check the governors. Even Le Pen didn't give up in spite of the Macron walkover. I doubt however that Raila and Uhuru are aware of our existence.


I just do not understand why the fat lady's singing would make a difference based on your main argument that this elections is over- a mere formality.
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Re: NASA Raila wasting time at IEBC conference
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2017, 11:00:52 AM »
Of course Kalonzo is under siege with all the Ukambani goings on. This election will determine his future and could be his last as a tribal heavyweight.

Did I miss something? What is a "siege"? How does the so called "Ukambani Goings on" meet the definition of "siege". Are there other situations elsewhere that can also be termed as "sieges"?

Please let's get to the bottom of it so we know if there is a siege or not.
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