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Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« on: May 17, 2017, 07:49:00 PM »
You can see a bit of that victory in this video:

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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2017, 08:36:22 PM »
Mutua is the frontrunner due to a sterling performance as governor. He is whatPundit calls a local influencer in Ukambani - his support of Jubilee and declaration to run for president in 2022 may just give Uhuru some crumbs.
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2017, 09:25:49 PM »
Mutua will suffer Tujus Curse. you cannot go against community interest for selfish reason and expect the same community to reward you. it aint gonna happen

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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2017, 10:12:15 PM »
Mutua is the frontrunner due to a sterling performance as governor. He is what Pundit calls a local influencer in Ukambani - his support of Jubilee and declaration to run for president in 2022 may just give Uhuru some crumbs.
Indeed
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2017, 10:24:50 PM »
Kambas are not Luos. They are not zerosum/singular... split between Kanu and Ngilu, etc unlike Luos.

Mutua is not Tuju. A good mix of performance and politics. He is now running for president in 2022 to checkmate Kalonzo.

Expect Mutua to carry the day for governor.

Mutua will suffer Tujus Curse. you cannot go against community interest for selfish reason and expect the same community to reward you. it aint gonna happen
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2017, 10:48:06 PM »
If Kalonzo Musyoka was worth his weight he would keep Machakos and Nairobi governorships in NASA. Ukambani is his territory while Kambas are the decisive swing vote in Nairobi. But we all know he is a lightweight just as Ranneberger said.
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2017, 11:16:07 PM »
Kambas are not Luos. They are not zerosum/singular... split between Kanu and Ngilu, etc unlike Luos.

Mutua is not Tuju. A good mix of performance and politics. He is now running for president in 2022 to checkmate Kalonzo.

Expect Mutua to carry the day for governor.


July 8th is not too far....Mutua could have done all that graciously without insulting Kalonzo,  fighting Muthama,  divorcing his wife or abandoning his kids
Now he would be the king of Ukambani but I guess he was in a big hurry to inherit the throne.

Mutua will suffer Tujus Curse. you cannot go against community interest for selfish reason and expect the same community to reward you. it aint gonna happen

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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 10:05:54 AM »
I sometimes wonder whether to laugh or sympathize when I hear about Tuju being "development" conscious. Tuju is a corn-Man like WSR and all the others.

Tuju used his PR capabilities to market himself as "development" conscious. If you ask one of those indoctrinated followers of this tale what the criteria for being considered "development Conscious" is, you get blanks, a verb, a noun and Raila for an answer. Did Tuju pass some test other MPs failed? How about Rarieda? What did he do in Rarieda that draws tourists from around the globe to watch? The answer Zilch.

The first thing Tuju did on being elected and appointed minister was to buy the latest Mercedes. This he took to Rarieda amid great fanfare accompanied by journalists paid to cover the event. Most of the stories were rejected by the usually compliant media but the one about losing a tyre hub cap was carried and Tuju saw an assassination attempt in that. It was the first time I was hearing of an assassination motive being one's "development" record, hardly a month in to office!
 
How so strange both Mutua and Tuju are way ahead of their real self. Their "image" far outstrippes their real selves.

Mutua is seen here being heckled (I doubt Robina watched the tape) and the day after he distances himself from Jubilee.

Mutua has been one big corn-man. From fake roads to fake funerals. He is out of prison only because Tobiko receives instructions from Uhuru.

Kambas are not Luos. They are not zerosum/singular... split between Kanu and Ngilu, etc unlike Luos.

Mutua is not Tuju. A good mix of performance and politics. He is now running for president in 2022 to checkmate Kalonzo.

Expect Mutua to carry the day for governor.

Mutua will suffer Tujus Curse. you cannot go against community interest for selfish reason and expect the same community to reward you. it aint gonna happen
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 11:07:04 AM »
Wavinya Ndeti seems poised to take this. Anti-Kalonzo sentiments have finished Muthama political career.

Add traders' influence which in Machakos just like Kiambu is a key issue. Then add Mutua's support for Kiala's irritations against Wavinya.

Then possibility of NASA sentiments now that a euphoria scenario seems improbable.

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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 11:35:42 AM »
Mutua overestimated his influence while attempting to mortgage it for favors from Uhuru. At least when Uhuru is alone, he is capable of taking drastic even brutal decisions. Like when Mutua followed him and at makindu and Kibwezi was jeered and subjected to public humiliation by wanainchi. Uhuru asked him to stop following him. I think he was always Ruto's man.

Wavinya will have it by default. I think Kiala will come second and Mutua last. But in Jubilee circles, he is the winner. Let's wait to see what happens. Its just a few weeks away.

Wavinya Ndeti seems poised to take this. Anti-Kalonzo sentiments have finished Muthama political career.

Add traders' influence which in Machakos just like Kiambu is a key issue. Then add Mutua's support for Kiala's irritations against Wavinya.

Then possibility of NASA sentiments now that a euphoria scenario seems improbable.


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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 04:09:17 PM »
I sometimes wonder whether to laugh or sympathize when I hear about Tuju being "development" conscious. Tuju is a corn-Man like WSR and all the others.

Tuju used his PR capabilities to market himself as "development" conscious. If you ask one of those indoctrinated followers of this tale what the criteria for being considered "development Conscious" is, you get blanks, a verb, a noun and Raila for an answer. Did Tuju pass some test other MPs failed? How about Rarieda? What did he do in Rarieda that draws tourists from around the globe to watch? The answer Zilch.

The first thing Tuju did on being elected and appointed minister was to buy the latest Mercedes. This he took to Rarieda amid great fanfare accompanied by journalists paid to cover the event. Most of the stories were rejected by the usually compliant media but the one about losing a tyre hub cap was carried and Tuju saw an assassination attempt in that. It was the first time I was hearing of an assassination motive being one's "development" record, hardly a month in to office!
 
How so strange both Mutua and Tuju are way ahead of their real self. Their "image" far outstrippes their real selves.

Mutua is seen here being heckled (I doubt Robina watched the tape) and the day after he distances himself from Jubilee.

Mutua has been one big corn-man. From fake roads to fake funerals. He is out of prison only because Tobiko receives instructions from Uhuru.

Kambas are not Luos. They are not zerosum/singular... split between Kanu and Ngilu, etc unlike Luos.

Mutua is not Tuju. A good mix of performance and politics. He is now running for president in 2022 to checkmate Kalonzo.

Expect Mutua to carry the day for governor.

Mutua will suffer Tujus Curse. you cannot go against community interest for selfish reason and expect the same community to reward you. it aint gonna happen

Development conscious is one of the numerous tribal codes to explain why he is not liked by his Luo people.  It depends on the notion that Luo people like development less than Kikuyus to pick a perfectly random example.  The fact that it's misguided does not stop it from being repeated in certain circles.
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 04:24:34 PM »
Development conscious is one of the numerous tribal codes to explain why he is not liked by his Luo people.  It depends on the notion that Luo people like development less than Kikuyus to pick a perfectly random example.  The fact that it's misguided does not stop it from being repeated in certain circles.

I got another definition from a colleague this morning: Tuju betrayed his party - LDP after the 2005 referendum. His betrayal had started much earlier when he would gain access to state house to meet Kibaki while all the LDP Mps and ministers including Raila would be locked out. The reason for this was clear: Kibaki wanted out of the MoU and was not man enough to meet LDP. Tuju acted as his spy against LDP for quite a while, was caught and ostracized. He from then on shifted from LDP to DP without elections of course (Political Usherati style).

His new friends had an explanation: Tuju was of course meeting Kibaki in secret to plan and plot development. Raila and the other Luos are against that... and so his development credentials began.

Tuju is a cliche Luo who having found the trappings of Nairobi or some other urban area, would enjoy it to the maximum and return home to be buried. These days there is a variation: They build good houses, never step there and get weekly reports from security companies. I think it is possible to count the number of times he went to Rarieda on the fingers of one hand. Development indeed!
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 05:40:08 PM »
Machakos will be the wiser to retain Mutua - and that video doesn't tell the whole story.

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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2017, 06:16:23 PM »
Machakos will be the wiser to retain Mutua - and that video doesn't tell the whole story.
There are more which add to the two posted recently.

That aside, explain to me what good would come to Machakos if it were to retain one of the most corrupt governors who paints a road black for the media and cares not when it reverts to potholes? A man with charges stretching from Kapkatet to Makutano?
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 11:02:55 AM »
Maendeleo Chap Chap has 3rd highest number of contestant 911 - which is huge - Kalonzo wiper has 630. Dr Mutua brand of politics seem to attract lot of folks and if he wins more seats than Kalonzo like it looks likely - then Kalonzo is really cooked.

An analysis by the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) shows that the Jubilee Party has 1,801 nominees, including its presidential pick, followed by the Orange Democratic Movement, which has 1,289.Maendeleo Chap Chap (911), Kanu (695), Amani National Congress (639), Wiper Democratic Party (632) and Ford-Kenya (631).

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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2017, 01:17:05 PM »
Yup. Towards 2022 Mutua will beat Kalonzo in national polls. Once Raila wiggles out of NASA deal to step down for Kakonzo he will be finished in Ukambani.

Maendeleo Chap Chap has 3rd highest number of contestant 911 - which is huge - Kalonzo wiper has 630. Dr Mutua brand of politics seem to attract lot of folks and if he wins more seats than Kalonzo like it looks likely - then Kalonzo is really cooked.

An analysis by the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) shows that the Jubilee Party has 1,801 nominees, including its presidential pick, followed by the Orange Democratic Movement, which has 1,289.Maendeleo Chap Chap (911), Kanu (695), Amani National Congress (639), Wiper Democratic Party (632) and Ford-Kenya (631).
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Re: Dr. Mutua Winning According to Pundit MOAS
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2017, 01:53:14 PM »
I am not sure I know or see the benefits of a large number of candidates. However if that helps let us ignore the pro-Jubilee Propaganda and get to the real facts.

1. Jubilee comprises of TNA and URP. If you count them separately both have fewer contestants than ODM. ODM has never merged with any other existing parties
2. NASA (ODM + ANC + Wiper + Ford K) = 3191
3. Jubilee (JP + MCC + KANU) = 2712

There are small and fringe parties associated with either side. If added the two sides are balanced with advantage NASA.

Maendeleo Chap Chap

This is an Ambulance Party whose owner would have benefitted the patients if he kept quiet. He has however started a dance on a slippery marble floor that will him in a wall head first: When in Ukambani he pretends to be a NASA supporter and once near Thika from Kitui he claims to be an Uhuru supporter. He argues that he cannot support Jubilee because he has a party but will support Uhuru. Then he says he supports Kalonzo. He forgot about modern technology.

Jubilee folks and Kalonzo. Mara he will join them; Mara he is cooked; Mara he won't get a seat in Ukambani.

Here is the truth: Right Now Kalonzo is the King of Ukambani. He has no rival. He has made peace with Ngilu (unlike 2002, 2007 and 2013.) He has absorbed Wavinya and shored up Kangundo; Mutula Kilonzo and Kibwana are with him thus bringing in Makueni; He comes from Kitui and is King as Ngilu learned. Kalonzo has never had it so nice in Ukambani. His influence on Kamba diaspora and their cousins the Duruma is even greater. That is why Mwakwere had to run from ODM to Wiper and thus drove the closing nail in Mvurya's coffin.

Uhuru and Ruto treated Kalonzo very badly and he remembers it. Why they would imagine he would cut another deal with them and lose his self respect still beats me. Jubilee keeps falling for these sensationalist and media savvy conmen like Gideon Mung'aro, Tuju and Mutua. Tuju never delivered the Luo votes he promised Kibaki did he? Dalmas Otieno and Kalausi?

But we shall see. Pundit is the Pundit.

Maendeleo Chap Chap has 3rd highest number of contestant 911 - which is huge - Kalonzo wiper has 630. Dr Mutua brand of politics seem to attract lot of folks and if he wins more seats than Kalonzo like it looks likely - then Kalonzo is really cooked.

An analysis by the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) shows that the Jubilee Party has 1,801 nominees, including its presidential pick, followed by the Orange Democratic Movement, which has 1,289.Maendeleo Chap Chap (911), Kanu (695), Amani National Congress (639), Wiper Democratic Party (632) and Ford-Kenya (631).
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