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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2017, 02:39:56 PM »
Most schools' infrastructure have been built through harambees by mwananchi.

The school management then were more honest and had inherited the missionary spirit/philosophy towards education thus the boom especially in the 80-90s. That Moi also shared this spirit/philosophy helped a lot.

With the new batch of the school heads - mostly YK 92 and hungry BOGs, the school harambees and development funds are a personal pocket money. The national pysche of pesa ni ya serikali sio ya mamako has contributed to current state of public infrastructure.
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2017, 04:29:03 PM »
Though I don't advocate for poor school infrastructure, its important to note that one of the best run private school institution with 405 schools countrywide http://www.bridgeinternationalacademies.com/countries/kenya/ invest more on teachers and students than infrastructure. All their schools are mabati built mostly in low income areas, yet the schools are performing well. CDF money should be used for such things as building schools.

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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2017, 10:53:28 PM »
Agreed, but there should be a priority. Why cant a governors house be built of mabati just like these schools. Drive a cheaper car rather thn a 10 million shilling car.

Though I don't advocate for poor school infrastructure, its important to note that one of the best run private school institution with 405 schools countrywide http://www.bridgeinternationalacademies.com/countries/kenya/ invest more on teachers and students than infrastructure. All their schools are mabati built mostly in low income areas, yet the schools are performing well. CDF money should be used for such things as building schools.

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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2017, 03:29:48 PM »
Most schools' infrastructure have been built through harambees by mwananchi.

The school management then were more honest and had inherited the missionary spirit/philosophy towards education thus the boom especially in the 80-90s. That Moi also shared this spirit/philosophy helped a lot.

With the new batch of the school heads - mostly YK 92 and hungry BOGs, the school harambees and development funds are a personal pocket money. The national pysche of pesa ni ya serikali sio ya mamako has contributed to current state of public infrastructure.

There is a history of schools going down the tubes when the mzungu founder hands over to the first melanin endowed manager.  Fact.
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2017, 03:34:22 PM »
Agreed, but there should be a priority. Why cant a governors house be built of mabati just like these schools. Drive a cheaper car rather thn a 10 million shilling car.

Though I don't advocate for poor school infrastructure, its important to note that one of the best run private school institution with 405 schools countrywide http://www.bridgeinternationalacademies.com/countries/kenya/ invest more on teachers and students than infrastructure. All their schools are mabati built mostly in low income areas, yet the schools are performing well. CDF money should be used for such things as building schools.

Yabut education is not devolved.
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2017, 06:35:53 AM »
who is this Government? Is it an abstract entity that 'can provide free education"..

That's a tough one.   What is the Government in any country?  The abstract entity that people pay taxes to and expect services in return?    Or it could be the other entity that people think of at elections.   In Kenya, it could be the people who said we will kula nyama while you others salivate.    I don't know.   But I have heard of a Government of Kenya; and I have heard talk of free education from said government; and I know that "donors" have given said government money for free education, which money then got eaten; and .... But enough of these abstract entities.

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So mine is a call to these "poor" parents to stop sitting on their behinds waiting for ministry of education to provide desks but to innovate a way of making desks using locally available material. with 3K I can make these kids desks and by mobilizing the community.

What if some of those "poor" parents really are poor?    What if even your 3K is tough for them?  Here's a thought for you and your chance to win the award for Kenyan 21st Century Hero: instead of these unfruitful exchanges on nipate,org, go out there and "with 3K ... make these kids desks and by mobilizing the community".  And while at it, tell them to get off their behinds ... I was going to write "fat behinds", but given the urgent appeals elsewhere to "donors", ...   

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So your pipe dream of free education with nice facilities it is that a dream that our Katiba envisions for the future but we must deal with our present problems here and now.

My "pipe dream" is that they should have certain basics before tablets and laptops and electricity.    I don't know about you, but I think a place to sit, a desk, clean water, a toilet, etc.---"present problems here and now"---are more important but actually less "nice" than the fancy gadgets.     Instead of just jumping up and down randomly and jerking off over the tablets/laptops and here comes Konza, take some time to really reflect on what that photo says.   

My point about the Katiba was actually simpler than you seem to appreciate.   That point is this: A government has certain obligations to its citizens, and the fact that the citizens might be taking up the slack where the government is failing does not change that.    And in this particular case of Kenya, it is a joke to have a government that is obsessed with gadgets and whatever while the basics are not covered ... supposedly because there is no money.   And not just money blown on misplaced priorities: billions are getting eaten, 24/7, all over the place! Talk about sheer, mindless stupidity .... just as well have "donors" and "development partners".

Random thought: do you know that in Kenya right now adequate nutrition, clean water, and a place to poop are  what would make the biggest difference in learning at the lower ages?   Well before one gets to laptops and tablets and digital curriculum and all are set for Konza City and MPESA World?
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2017, 07:06:03 AM »
There is a history of schools going down the tubes when the mzungu founder hands over to the first melanin endowed manager.  Fact.

Yep.  And the reasons have little to do with a lack of money.  What's more, it's not just in education.  For things to really change, we must deal with some realities in a very direct manner, however "painful" that might be.   
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2017, 02:59:46 PM »
I am still trying to find the location of this school for an urgent intervention. If anybody finds out please post data:

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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2017, 04:10:53 PM »
Meanwhile, every governor has a chopper while constituents have no schools.
Even in NRB go to schools like Kilimani etc and youll see dilapidated buildings

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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2017, 04:24:27 PM »
I am still trying to find the location of this school for an urgent intervention. If anybody finds out please post data:



I would not be surprised if it's a stone throw away from a mwenyenchi. 

That said, I am surprised why the villagers don't fix it up.  Maybe replace it with some sturdy tents and furniture.  The government wont.
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2017, 04:49:32 PM »
They are way ahead of this place in Baringo



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A school in the wild where learners sit on stones and learn under trees
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000188550/a-school-in-the-wild-where-learners-sit-on-stones-and-learn-under-trees


or this one




or ....

But they will all have laptops.   So all is good.
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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2017, 10:28:11 AM »
It's about time gov change it policy on school infrastructure. This should no longer be the burden of parents. Gov should build schools & infrastructure. I know education budget already take a huge junk of the budget - so justifying this maybe a little tough - but gov can start by building few model schools in every constituency -

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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2017, 01:01:50 PM »
Has education been devolved?

These are the future leaders, and counties whould be required to build schools like crazy instead of buying SUVs

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Re: The Shocking State of Public Schools in Jubilee Kenya
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2017, 01:47:12 PM »
It's about time gov change it policy on school infrastructure. This should no longer be the burden of parents. Gov should build schools & infrastructure. I know education budget already take a huge junk of the budget - so justifying this maybe a little tough - but gov can start by building few model schools in every constituency -
Amen.

The goal should be that all schools will be EQUAL offering EQUAL education. This should lead to the eventual death of public boarding schools. Children would access the same education they think they can find at Alliance right at their own doorsteps!
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