When capitalism reaches its optimal point, who will buy its products?

[Empedocles]

Empy, where's your twin MK ? There's no such thing as post-scarcity- it exists in SciFi perhaps. Resources are finite & even if resources were self-sustainable via recycling cadavers & excrements into food, there are also uniquely human traits that would prohibit a "post-scarce" ecosystem. The science, economics, academia, philosophy doesn't support it.

A couple examples of academic theories:

1. The universe isn't designed to progress under equilibrium.  Effectively life dies without imbalance and chaos.

2. Ethics prohibit a lot of sustainable scientific efficiency.

3. It takes more expertise and machines to convert raw material into a commodity. Machines need fuel & fuel is a finite resource & why the world is at war for it at present.

4. All living things have a decay rate, even the sun. The more we recycle something, the less it can be of quality to the point it would be detrimental. Same goes with gmo foods to clones. Clones have half life less than original, gmo foods are harmful if it's been modified too much.

5. We don't eat monkeys because they're genetically similar to us. Recycling biomatter for consumption to recycling fossil fuel eventually does more harm than good.

I could go on.

The only SciFi notion I think is viable and most likely the future of humanity is to send a cohort off to migrate to a planet & start a new civilisation there. At most civilisation on earth has maybe a couple hundred years left before the ozone layer is completely ripped apart, rising sea levels & earth uninhabitable.

Better publish a Nobel award winning scientific paper since you got 100% proof the universe is finite, giving finite resources.

When alchemists promised to turn sh!t into gold, they suckered many people into giving them money. Now we know, using nuclear transmutation, that it's possible, with stars, starting with hydrogen, churning out gold since the dawn of time. We, carbon based bipedal humanoids, got our building blocks from supernovas.

But you're right, entropy will catch up with us....or maybe Asimov was right:

[pdf]http://www.physics.princeton.edu/ph115/LQ.pdf[/pdf]

[veritas]

I'm talking about Earth not the universe. I don't know enough about the laws in the universe.

That's not real gold, and if it is real gold I assure you people wouldn't be trading with gold bars right now.

Gold does come from the ground so I'm a hundred percent certain like Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, gold exists in other planets or stars. Please just listen to yourself, you're obviously retorting via your dangly bits ever since I mentioned mermaids have no access.

I didn-t take you for a philosopher... I'll get back to you on the entropy thing... been awhile since I thought about that.