What USA re-industrialisation under Trump will mean for Africa

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They don't need high tech skills. High tech skills are needed in customer service, software development, office environments.

AI factories would still be factories. So mass producing intelligent cars like modern car factory. IoT factory- those things are starting to emerge & they need factory workers.

Beauty about it is, you see this in mobile phone factories. One side of factory check assemblage (older workers), other side of factory casual teens installing software. Every phone had some teen somewhere in the work install that phone software by hand.

Makes sense to have more of these factory types in the future.

[Empedocles]

They don't need high tech skills. High tech skills are needed in customer service, software development, office environments.

AI factories would still be factories. So mass producing intelligent cars like modern car factory. IoT factory- those things are starting to emerge & they need factory workers.

Beauty about it is, you see this in mobile phone factories. One side of factory check assemblage (older workers), other side of factory casual teens installing software. Every phone had some teen somewhere in the work install that phone software by hand.

Makes sense to have more of these factory types in the future.

But not in the US.

These are, from the US point of view, very low paying jobs, not what Trump supporters are expecting / hoping for. We don't hear of Chinese / Taiwanese factory workers enjoying the perks of middle income Americans, like a house in the suburbs with a nice white picket fence, two cars, etc.

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I agree for plastic goods. Mobile phone factories I speak of are next to my house. I've worked there. Installed mobile phone software. The place is still there and still hire teens on a casual basis. Better pay than McDonalds. Was paid $19 an hour back then.

Having interacted with Trump supporters on social media- a lot of them seem to be uneducated folks frustrated they're left out in favor of techy/smart types. Ok they're racist/crass shitholes it seems to mask the fact they're uneducated so they bark & heckle but when we got beyond that, beyond the racism/sexism they expressed their desperations- they want to be part of the future too. It hurt me to hear how left out they felt. I cried about it. I understood why Trump was elected.

I think setting up new industries that includes uneducated/older folks is perhaps something that can happen under Trump's presidency. Trump can also be more antagonistic in foreign policy/terrorism like be the bad guy Hillary/Obama couldn't do because they want to be friends with all nations.

Rumor has it Trump plans to unite Korea.

[Empedocles]

I agree for plastic goods. Mobile phone factories I speak of are next to my house. I've worked there. Installed mobile phone software. The place is still there and still hire teens on a casual basis. Better pay than McDonalds. Was paid $19 an hour back then.

Having interacted with Trump supporters on social media- a lot of them seem to be uneducated folks frustrated they're left out in favor of techy/smart types. Ok they're racist/crass shitholes it seems to mask the fact they're uneducated so they bark & heckle but when we got beyond that, beyond the racism/sexism they expressed their desperations- they want to be part of the future too. It hurt me to hear how left out they felt. I cried about it. I understood why Trump was elected.

I think setting up new industries that includes uneducated/older folks is perhaps something that can happen under Trump's presidency. Trump can also be more antagonistic in foreign policy/terrorism like be the bad guy Hillary/Obama couldn't do because they want to be friends with all nations.

Rumor has it Trump plans to unite Korea.

If he really has a clue where and what Korea is.



On a more serious note, Trump's supporters are just modern day Luddites. The world is rapidly changing and they're harping for long gone era, which isn't coming back. Trump, of course, cleverly tapped into that hope to win the presidency but deliver his promises?

He can't and he knew it, being a businessman who has most of his junk produced in China and Mexico specifically because the US was just too darn expensive when it came to labor. Even his daughter Ivanka's shoes are made in China (and soon, Ethiopia) Heck, he couldn't even use the US middle class to build his hotels, settling instead for undocumented Hispanic workers. Watch as he'll soon bail on the massive deportation drive he promised.

Trump has spent decades shafting the middle class.

He got rich by shafting and then lying about it. He ain't gonna stop now.

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Trump is a nice guy. People need to give him a chance.

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South Korea was the first nation Trump called when he won that night. See the protests right now in Korea? It's related to what's happening in America now. If South Korea falls, the world goes to nuclear war. Nuclear gridlock places South & North Korea THE barrier. If that barrier falls it's an all out nuclear war- a nuclear domino across the globe.

I'm keeping an open mind about Trump.

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Things are really precarious right now. Cusp of anarchy. Brink of a nuclear war if things don't ease in Korea or America.

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So bad my mother has spoken of taking us all to a "special island" in South Korea for a "relaxing holiday" she just came back from a 6 month holiday. What I thought was even more odd is when she added: grab any man.. just grab any man damn it ... not a criminal of course.

[Empedocles]

Trump is a nice guy. People need to give him a chance.

When, not if, Trump backs from most if not all his campaign promises, that's when his supporters will realize that they got scammed by a smart conman but Breitbart.com will try keeping most of them dreaming.

P.S. I wasn't for Hillary; I was and still am 100% against Trump.

South Korea was the first nation Trump called when he won that night. See the protests right now in Korea? It's related to what's happening in America now. If South Korea falls, the world goes to nuclear war. Nuclear gridlock places South & North Korea THE barrier. If that barrier falls it's an all out nuclear war- a nuclear domino across the globe.

I'm keeping an open mind about Trump.

Of course, it's your right and I respect it.

But so far the names leaking of his cabinet picks aren't very encouraging to me. War is big business and he's very comfortable with warmongers.

The map was in jest. 

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There's no war. It's an annihilation of the human race. America has about a thousand and something nukes ready for deployment.

I dunno, he's not really Republican. Can't imagine him supporting wars like the Bushes.

My mother's convinced he's a Democrat, all in fear of a shadow global force stronger than America, Russia, Republican or Democrat hellbent on anarchy.

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There's no war. It's an annihilation of the human race. America has about a thousand and something nukes ready for deployment.

I dunno, he's not really Republican. Can't imagine him supporting wars like the Bushes.

My mother's convinced he's a Democrat, all in fear of a shadow global force stronger than America, Russia, Republican or Democrat hellbent on anarchy.

That's the trump card ( ).

Trump is always morphing to be what he thinks his audience wants him to be.

Back the the subject of this thread, Trump BS'ed his way to the presidency by falsely promising to re-industrialize, MAGA, etc. even though he can't do it and, even if he wanted to try, has no idea where to even begin. He just knew he wanted to win and the only way was to say what the voters wanted to hear. And like a gigolo paid in votes, he delivered.

Trump constantly wants to win (dopamine addict). He never thought of what comes after and frankly I think he's scared of what his big mouth got him into.



Watch the backpedaling start to accelerate:

Here are all the positions president-elect Trump has qualified (so far).

1. Repeal and replace Obamacare.3. End the 'war on coal.'4. Deport illegal immigrants through mass deportations.

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Seems he's basically not going to do anything eg Bush's presidency like a lame duck presidency & shebam launch a nuclear war.

I can only think of one reason why someone of his age would want to be president and that's to set off a nuke and usher in a new world devoted to sending off survivors to Mars. I imagine a future under his presidency with more biowarfare tests, science experiments so to prolong life. That's why he keeps emphasizing his priority is healthcare without specifying exactly what he means by that.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/02/peter-thiel-is-out-for-young-peoples-blood/&refURL=https://www.google.com.au/&referrer=https://www.google.com.au/

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Seems he's basically not going to do anything eg Bush's presidency like a lame duck presidency & shebam launch a nuclear war.

I can only think of one reason why someone of his age would want to be president and that's to set off a nuke and usher in a new world devoted to sending off survivors to Mars. I imagine a future under his presidency with more biowarfare tests, science experiments so to prolong life. That's why he keeps emphasizing his priority is healthcare without specifying exactly what he means by that.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/02/peter-thiel-is-out-for-young-peoples-blood/&refURL=https://www.google.com.au/&referrer=https://www.google.com.au/

Trump is scary but not necessarily in the way he has been portrayed.  In terms of security, he brings to the White House a level of hubris and incompetence that will leave America exposed.  He  literally does not listen to the intelligence agencies.

And yes, as a sociopath, he poses a latent danger to all humanity.  While he may not be able to launch nukes on a whim, he certainly will be able to order conventional military strikes on a whim.

[Empedocles]

Seems he's basically not going to do anything eg Bush's presidency like a lame duck presidency & shebam launch a nuclear war.

I can only think of one reason why someone of his age would want to be president and that's to set off a nuke and usher in a new world devoted to sending off survivors to Mars. I imagine a future under his presidency with more biowarfare tests, science experiments so to prolong life. That's why he keeps emphasizing his priority is healthcare without specifying exactly what he means by that.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/02/peter-thiel-is-out-for-young-peoples-blood/&refURL=https://www.google.com.au/&referrer=https://www.google.com.au/

Trump is scary but not necessarily in the way he has been portrayed.  In terms of security, he brings to the White House a level of hubris and incompetence that will leave America exposed.  He  literally does not listen to the intelligence agencies.

And yes, as a sociopath, he poses a latent danger to all humanity.  While he may not be able to launch nukes on a whim, he certainly will be able to order conventional military strikes on a whim.

Err, the nuclear launch system is purposely designed to be able to launch ICBM's as fast as possible.

Given it takes a Russian (USSR during the cold war) ICBM around 30 minutes from launch to game-over, dilly-dallying would mean the first to launch would win. It's a two man system with Trump being the first and his personally selected Secretary of Defense being the second.

Remember, the system was setup during the cold war.

Here's an interesting story about on US officer who asked a very VERY important question which cost him his job:

sane president?

A couple of extracts:

But you've probably read about Richard Nixon acting erratically, drinking heavily as Watergate closed in on him. You may not have read about the time he told a dinner party at the White House, "I could leave this room, and in 25 minutes, 70 million people would be dead." (Try that line out at one of your dinner parties. I've always found it a good conversation starter.)

Anyway, back down there in your launch capsule you might allow yourself to wonder: "This launch order, is this for real or for Nixon's indigestion?"

If you were asking yourself that question, you wouldn't be the only one. James Schlesinger, secretary of defense at that time, No. 2 in the nuclear chain of command, was reported to be so concerned about Nixon's behavior that he sent word down the chain of command that if anyone received any "unusual orders" from the president they should double-check with him before carrying them out.

Maybe the world better be careful on what we tweet to Trump, to avoid pissing him off. 

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He'll launch some nukes, I'm sure of that. Something perhaps that needs to be done given the failures in the Middle-East to reassert USA sphere of influence. It's not something the Democrats could do but Trump can do.

Like Empy says the guy is dopamine ego maniac. He needs to prove to the world he's got the guts to do something the likes of other presidents can't. The question is when & where.

I suspect he's going to nuke North Korea. It's far enough away from American soil & the gateway to demolishing NATO, NPT. North Korea won't be missed anyway & they were testing nukes anyway and someone had to put an end to it- that being Trump. It's the kind of rhetoric he could get away with jeered by his racist supporters.

Likely Russia will retaliate by nuking the UK.

In the latest interview he said he knew better than the wisdom of military advisors who undoubtedly advised him about nuclear matters. Before Hiroshima, military advisors were against setting off a nuke whereas scientists were screaming for more nukes to be set off. So they compromised for one more- Negasaki which scientists argued would hurt the Japanese since it was a historical/cultural center. I suspect that's the kind of advisors Trump is surrounded with right now.

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He'll launch some nukes, I'm sure of that. Something perhaps that needs to be done given the failures in the Middle-East to reassert USA sphere of influence. It's not something the Democrats could do but Trump can do.

Like Empy says the guy is dopamine ego maniac. He needs to prove to the world he's got the guts to do something the likes of other presidents can't. The question is when & where.

I suspect he's going to nuke North Korea. It's far enough away from American soil & the gateway to demolishing NATO, NPT. North Korea won't be missed anyway & they were testing nukes anyway and someone had to put an end to it- that being Trump.

Likely Russia will retaliate by nuking the UK.

In the latest interview he said he knew better than military advisors who undoubtedly advised him about nuclear matters.

Ok, even though I did write that Trump's completely unhinged, I seriously don't think he'll be allowed to launch the ICBM's.

The military very clearly see him for what he is and before authorizing the commands received from Trump, they'd double-check to make sure it was a valid order. They understand very well what the consequences of an ICBM launch are.

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Rumor has it there have been talks of arming the South Korean peninsula with nukes ready for deployment & to defend itself from Russia. Strategically for war, South Korea is more important than the UK. This mass migration of refugees some say is in preparation for a nuclear war.

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If you look at the pattern of mass migration like the Serengeti like getting refugees out of Syria & into Europe, it's a clear sign the world is preparing for nuclear war. I don't think it'll be a full blown nuclear at once but just one to keep the peace since there's so much terrorism, overpopulation on the rise.

Trump's rhetoric on mass migration, wall  reflect his military strategy. This foreign policy isn't his idea, ongoing foreign policy. It would require a populous US president appealing to fascism which would make such nuclear strikes justified when perpetrated by a country led by a fascist.

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Hillary didn't want to be president. This isn't something she can do even though America needs to do something to show the world they're not pussies, but an outside like Trump can. It won't even be such a big deal when Trump does it because the North Koreans had it coming. I have no doubt his supporters will back his move in the same way Hitler's followers supported the genocide. At the same time Nazi Germany became the strongest power in the world. Most of my political studies were on Hitler's policies & I see the same happening now.

Trump promised things he can't deliver on because the only reason why he became president was to look fascist enough to the world to launch nuclear strikes. America can always just impeach him at the very worse & reassure the world the guy was just crazy & it wasn't an American thing when it was their plan.

It's gonna happen, I have no doubt about it. At the same time it'll restructure NATO, NPT, drain nuclear ammo across the globe like in Russia & Iran, solve overpopulation, lucrative drug production for survivors, a more health/science based economy with more scientists & doctors in government, funds funnelled towards developing Mars instead of climate change, above all else, reassert US hegemony.

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I think it'll be a false flag nuclear attack on Japan or South Korea to demonstrate the North struck first. Then a false flag strike back on North Korea in an effort to unite Korea under US influence. I can't imagine real nukes would be used because that would contaminate the soil. Relos have been talking about various nuclear drills & blackouts being conducted in villages close to the border in preparation for a nuclear strike the past year which was unusual. I wrote an essay about this almost a decade ago, to bypass nuclear gridlock could do so on a humanitarian angle.. when I think about it, the US could get away with it with false flags as humanitarian angle. I think Obama has been  testing this on US soil. Not sure if the rest of the world will fall for a false flag nuclear launch but if it can be pulled off it solves a lot of global problems. Including those corrupt shadow British puppetmasters.

I don't think however the Russians will false flag in retaliation. EU is too close to home but these Bexit fellows won't be as missed. Would explain why Obama spoke of Ireland being of strategic importance  & the US was cozing up to Ireland not too long ago.