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Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« on: August 19, 2016, 04:29:56 PM »
Watch this video and explain it to me. Those are Jubilee voters with an ultra Jubilee MP - Asaman Kamama

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 04:33:24 PM »
Kamama has been selling his people.
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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 04:49:23 PM »
The silly season is on.

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 05:05:25 PM »
It can't be that silly when despite CDF and there still exists such a level of despicable public service. What has this guy been doing with all the money?

He is in Jubilee so he doesn't have to "join Jubilee for development" like the rest of us, does he? I would have thought Jubilee areas where the MPs have long joined Jubilee would be a shinning example for Mung'aro and Namwamba to point at and tell the rest of us to follow suit? As it happens, joining Jubilee or being a life member like Asman Kamama does not bring hospitals close to the people nor build bridges.

We are not in Jubilee in but we hardly see anything close to the poverty in Tiaty or the band roads in Elgeyo Marakwet where even the local Senator gets stuck on the road when he can't fly his Tax paid chopper. Do we?

When is the digital age going to reach these people? Or shall they get electricity in their hovels - electricity paid for by the World Bank but which which Jubilee claims to be dishing out amid bribing politicians?

Is the mass bribery of MPs part of "Development"? Or holding conferences at state house?


The silly season is on.
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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 05:14:46 PM »
Jubilee has helped Tiaty like the rest of the country. I don't think Jubilee are interested in dicing the country into enclaves based on loyalty. Tiaty kids are going to school free like others, their women giving birth for free, they are getting electricity like everyone else, they are getting roads like everyone else, they are getting laptops like everyone else, etc. It not Jubilee faulty that Tiaty is starting from rock bottom while your people are slighty better.

What Jubilee has done for Tiaty that they didn't do for your area is to send KDF and police to pacify and stop cattle rustling. Kamama protested but soon realized Jubilee were serious. Now that place is peaceful..turkana, tugen, samburu and guys in Bogoria are thankful..because those Asman Kamama cattle thugs have been stopped in their tracks...they had wrecked havoc and displaced several villages in 3 or 4 counties.

That is leadership. Strong even handed leadership that Jubilee represent.

Tiaty and North rift counties of Turkana, Pokot and Baringo wealth is underground. You can laugh at them because their arid land has nothing above ground but when they start minning oil/diamond/gold - like the middle east desert - their fortunes will changes - and they will zoom past your village matope houses in one single generation.

As you speak Jubilee is going to be moving 4,000 barrels Oil from Turkana per day next year and prospecting is moving to Elgeyo Markwet and Baringo. You might want to stop deriding those people now.


It can't be that silly when despite CDF and there still exists such a level of despicable public service. What has this guy been doing with all the money?

He is in Jubilee so he doesn't have to "join Jubilee for development" like the rest of us, does he? I would have thought Jubilee areas where the MPs have long joined Jubilee would be a shinning example for Mung'aro and Namwamba to point at and tell the rest of us to follow suit? As it happens, joining Jubilee or being a life member like Asman Kamama does not bring hospitals close to the people nor build bridges.

We are not in Jubilee in but we hardly see anything close to the poverty in Tiaty or the band roads in Elgeyo Marakwet where even the local Senator gets stuck on the road when he can't fly his Tax paid chopper. Do we?

When is the digital age going to reach these people? Or shall they get electricity in their hovels - electricity paid for by the World Bank but which which Jubilee claims to be dishing out amid bribing politicians?

Is the mass bribery of MPs part of "Development"? Or holding conferences at state house?

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 05:37:12 PM »
First of all let me correct the misconception that Jubilee has no intention of balkanizing Kenya into enclaves and islands. That can only be true if Ruto's utterances are just roadside declarations without any force of policy behind them. I doubt that you would agree that Ruto is one of those Market place preachers whose words count zero and hardly anybody listens.

Uhuru would naturally disagree because he too has been trumpeting the same. I have dozens of videos of those two bozos mounting platforms to tell Kenyans that they can only get development by abandoning opposition and joining Jubilee. I believe you have not only seen this on TV but heard it from their own mouths as you attended some of the meetings.

If then Jubilee is delivering "development equally to all people" as you now openly contradict your two bosses, could you then join me in condemning them for LYING to Kenyans that one can only get development by joining Jubilee? Would you like to join me in offering them a generous opportunity to apologize to the people of Kisii, Busia, Kilifi, Kericho and Luoland for repeatedly LYING to them about that for the last 4 years?



Jubilee has helped Tiaty like the rest of the country. I don't think Jubilee are interested in dicing the country into enclaves based on loyalty. Tiaty kids are going to school free like others, their women giving birth for free, they are getting electricity like everyone else, they are getting roads like everyone else, they are getting laptops like everyone else, etc. It not Jubilee faulty that Tiaty is starting from rock bottom while your people are slighty better.

What Jubilee has done for Tiaty that they didn't do for your area is to send KDF and police to pacify and stop cattle rustling. Kamama protested but soon realized Jubilee were serious. Now that place is peaceful..turkana, tugen, samburu and guys in Bogoria are thankful..because those Asman Kamama cattle thugs have been stopped in their tracks...they had wrecked havoc and displaced several villages in 3 or 4 counties.

That is leadership. Strong even handed leadership that Jubilee represent.

Tiaty and North rift counties of Turkana, Pokot and Baringo wealth is underground. You can laugh at them because their arid land has nothing above ground but when they start minning oil/diamond/gold - like the middle east desert - their fortunes will changes - and they will zoom past your village matope houses in one single generation.

As you speak Jubilee is going to be moving 4,000 barrels Oil from Turkana per day next year and prospecting is moving to Elgeyo Markwet and Baringo. You might want to stop deriding those people now.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 05:42:52 PM »
I think Ruto and Uhuru have repeatedly stated that every kenyan is entitled to gov services whether they voted Jubilee or not. Beyond that - we've heard very little complain about project favouring xyz like we had during Kibaki regime. So in words and deeds they done it. Where they have failed is by reserving key post to Kalenjin and Kikuyu.  They need to work on that...at some point...it appeared like a 2 tribe gov. Uhuru of course has undone a lot of Kibaki tribalism...and you have many key gov position being occupied by non-kikuyus.

They have also stated a self-evident fact that Jubilee is forming the next gov and anybody who is joining the opposition willingly is not being smart.

First of all let me correct the misconception that Jubilee has no intention of balkanizing Kenya into enclaves and islands. That can only be true if Ruto's utterances are just roadside declarations without any force of policy behind them. I doubt that you would agree that Ruto is one of those Market place preachers whose words count zero and hardly anybody listens.

Uhuru would naturally disagree because he too has been trumpeting the same. I have dozens of videos of those two bozos mounting platforms to tell Kenyans that they can only get development by abandoning opposition and joining Jubilee. I believe you have not only seen this on TV but heard it from their own mouths as you attended some of the meetings.

If then Jubilee is delivering "development equally to all people" as you now openly contradict your two bosses, could you then join me in condemning them for LYING to Kenyans that one can only get development by joining Jubilee? Would you like to join me in offering them a generous opportunity to apologize to the people of Kisii, Busia, Kilifi, Kericho and Luoland for repeatedly LYING to them about that for the last 4 years?

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 06:39:46 PM »
Frankly I felt like I was spamming the board. There is so much coming from Uhuru, Ruto and the proteges that your attempt to deny this becomes laughable.

On Tribal appointments:

1. It has already been printed on the minds of Kenyans that Uhuru appoints his tribesmen. He can't rub that whatever the rubber and he can't paint gloss over it
2. Kenyans are not so bitter when Kalenjins are appointed. We carried out a private poll on this issue. However any smell of a GEMA sends their blood pressure to high heaven.

It is just too late in the day for Uhuru to pretend that he governs for all Kenyans. My advice is that we shall not talk about it nationally unless they start. However be sure it will be in the talking points of every CORD surrogate on the trail
I think Ruto and Uhuru have repeatedly stated that every kenyan is entitled to gov services whether they voted Jubilee or not. Beyond that - we've heard very little complain about project favouring xyz like we had during Kibaki regime. So in words and deeds they done it. Where they have failed is by reserving key post to Kalenjin and Kikuyu.  They need to work on that...at some point...it appeared like a 2 tribe gov. Uhuru of course has undone a lot of Kibaki tribalism...and you have many key gov position being occupied by non-kikuyus.

They have also stated a self-evident fact that Jubilee is forming the next gov and anybody who is joining the opposition willingly is not being smart.
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President Uhuru Kenyatta has called upon Gusii leaders to join the Jubilee government so that they can spearhead more development in the two counties.]http://www.hivisasa.com/nyamira/politics/135999]President Uhuru Kenyatta has called upon Gusii leaders to join the Jubilee government so that they can spearhead more development in the two counties.
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Ruto has urged the Kamba community to support the government, saying they stood to benefit from Jubilee as opposed to the Coalition for Reforms and Democracy (CORD) that they are currently aligned to.

Speaking at Kasikeu Secondary School in Kilome Constituency, Makueni County on Wednesday, the Deputy President said the Opposition had no agenda for Kenyans.
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Deputy President William Ruto has urged the Gusii community to join Jubilee to achieve its development agenda.

"We are ready to work with the Gusii community so as to move the country forward as Jubilee," Ruto said.

He dismissed Cord's brand of politics as driven by malice, ethnic hatred and false accusations at the expense of improving the welfare of Kenyans.

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 06:47:52 PM »
Don't see any problem with that. Ruto and Uhuru are right. CORD are agenda less and would drive development backward. I don't see them saying you vote cord; you don't get development; I see the saying you risk electing a gov that is anti-development.I can show your many statements where they've made it clear to CORD zone that they are not  going to be discriminated.

Tell me CORD manifesto on any bread and butter issues? What is cord target in 5 yrs in power generation? What is CORD target in modernizing roads in next 5yrs? etc etc.

CORD manifesto is just the generic template of "we are at cross-roads" or " the chicken crossed the road".
http://www.kenya-today.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CORD-Manifesto-2013.pdf

At least Trump manifesto is meant to be a secret but CORD lacks in details and seriousness.

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 06:58:35 PM »
Agenda-less when EVERYTHING has been xeroxed from CORD? Uhuru is even "commissioning" roads Raila and Kibaki commissioned eons ago?

What has Jubilee done? Laptops for kids? Sorry they are 1 dollar tablets from China!!! The tender requirements all trashed!!

Are you asking for our 2017 Manifesto? Where is Jubilees?

We are not in power and therefore we have one item on our current manifesto: To get Jubilee out of power and Form a CORD government if not earlier then from March 2017.

Don't see any problem with that. Ruto and Uhuru are right. CORD are agenda less and would drive development backward. I don't see them saying you vote cord; you don't get development; I see the saying you risk electing a gov that is anti-development.I can show your many statements where they've made it clear to CORD zone that they are not  going to be discriminated.

Tell me CORD manifesto on any bread and butter issues? What is cord target in 5 yrs in power generation? What is CORD target in modernizing roads in next 5yrs? etc etc.

CORD manifesto is just the generic template of "we are at cross-roads" or " the chicken crossed the road".
http://www.kenya-today.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CORD-Manifesto-2013.pdf

At least Trump manifesto is meant to be a secret but CORD lacks in details and seriousness.

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Re: Pundit Explain Tiaty Troubles for Me
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2016, 07:07:40 PM »
A Commentary on Kongi's Harvest ( a book I beg you Pundit to read in a hurry): (gotta go. Nice debate)
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word-factory, manufactures the words which go into the talking boxesactually producing the words to order, the devaluation of the coinage becomes complete.
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