Senator Njoroge Excoriates Ruto Again

[Simanova]

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Nominated Senator Paul Njoroge has accused DP William Ruto of insulting members of the Luhya community.

At a press conference, Njoroge claimed the trend jeopardises efforts made by President Uhuru Kenyatta to unite the country.

Over the weekend, the DP made the " Kumangamanga na Waluhya " (loitering with Luhyas) in reference to Bomet Senator Gideon Moi working with members of the Luhya community.

"It is outrageous that such a high profile leader can use such outrageous remarks against a community which has [chosen] its political path," Njoroge said.

Njoroge said the DP and other uncertain forces were taking advantage of the current political realignment to create more rifts in the Western region.

Read: Uhuru welcomes New Ford Kenya to Jubilee, says merger not killing opposition

"ODM has its own challenges just like Jubilee. Let them be allowed to solve their own problems instead of using external forces to cause more trouble," he said.

He said its ironic for Uhuru and his deputy to purport to be working together to unite the country yet Ruto was belittling leaders from other regions.

"I am a leader just like him and my aim is to clean our house. We do not want to put this country in an awkward situation as a result of reckless statements like the ones used by deputy president," Njoroge said.

Njoroge further accused DP of misleading voters, especially in the Central region that 2017 had already been sealed.

"Let us not lie to each other: there are no Kikuyu or Kalenjin votes put in a basket somewhere for either Uhuru or Ruto; they have to sell their policies to gain voter confidence," Njoroge said.

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[RV Pundit]

Seem he is very keen to reveal his paymasters. It very clear he doesn't speak for Uhuru but Raila & Gideon Moi. It would make more political impact if he was at least adressing a crowd of 10 people....but here comes an nominated nobody (courtsey of disability) busy calling a press conference thinking he can lecture Ruto on politics...instead of focusing on special interest he is supose to represent..the interest of the disable. He is clearly a political neophyte being used by his fellow senator Gideon Moi.

[Simanova]

I am finding your camp full of double standards.

When Kabogo and Munya (and now Senator Njoroge) you say they are not speaking for Kikuyus. I can see you have added a minimum audience condition: He must be addressing at least 10 people. I will not quarrel with that as I go back to see how many people Munya and Kabogo were addressing. However....

When Ababu Namwamba speaks there is a chorus (mostly from GEMA) that he is speaking for Luhyas. Never mind that he fails the Minimum Audience Test. (For the record, you did not think much of Ababu)

Seem he is very keen to reveal his paymasters. It very clear he doesn't speak for Uhuru but Raila & Gideon Moi. It would make more political impact if he was at least adressing a crowd of 10 people....but here comes an nominated nobody (courtsey of disability) busy calling a press conference thinking he can lecture Ruto on politics...instead of focusing on special interest he is supose to represent..the interest of the disable. He is clearly a political neophyte being used by his fellow senator Gideon Moi.

[RV Pundit]

It all upto you. I don't attach much import to Njoroge rant. I think he has been bought by Gideon & CORD to make noise. As for Kabogo & Munya - we know why they are speaking that way - Ruto is closer to their opponent - Kiraitu & Waitutu - and like Isaac - these guys are scared shitless of 2017.

They all certainly don't speak for Uhuru. Uhuru has endorsed Ruto publicly several times. He has respected Ruto and has shared 50-50. I don't know what more assurance Ruto would want. Maybe make Uhuru invent a future time machine and zoom into 2022 --so we can be sure where most Kikuyus will vote then.

So far so good. Some people are starting to get really scared of 2012 because they now know UhuRuto are serious about this -and that 2017 is done dusted deal (all Jubilee seem to care now is just getting legitimate IEBC). The most significant development to watch is Jubilee party--that will be Ruto brand new vehicle to statehouse - and the rest are details. Jubilee party will

I am finding your camp full of double standards.

When Kabogo and Munya (and now Senator Njoroge) you say they are not speaking for Kikuyus. I can see you have added a minimum audience condition: He must be addressing at least 10 people. I will not quarrel with that as I go back to see how many people Munya and Kabogo were addressing. However....

When Ababu Namwamba speaks there is a chorus (mostly from GEMA) that he is speaking for Luhyas. Never mind that he fails the Minimum Audience Test. (For the record, you did not think much of Ababu)

[Nefertiti]

I interact with Gema alot -- Ruto 2022 Gema hope is mixed bag. Some Gema just pointblank tell you they cannot vote for the man. Some hope Peter Kenneth will man up and ensure it is a real coalition not JAP which they see as Kanu. In short: Gema don't trust RV despite Ruto's oil tongue. Horror memories.

Pundit does not entertain this possibility.

[MOON Ki]

I interact with Gema alot -- Ruto 2022 Gema hope is mixed bag. Some Gema just pointblank tell you they cannot vote for the man. Some hope Peter Kenneth will man up and ensure it is a real coalition not JAP which they see as Kanu. In short: Gema don't trust RV despite Ruto's oil tongue. Horror memories.

Kiambaa is the sort of thing that will be passed in folklore: "noted, sorting-out to done in due course".  Serve it cold.   In the meantime, hugs and forgiveness all around.   

In Ruto's shoes I would have insisted that 50-50 also mean 5-year alternations, not a patient waiting for who-knows-what at the end of 10 years.   But right now Ruto has no choice but to go along with Uhuru's program, so it is probably pointless for Simanova & Co to get excited about how he will get shafted in 2022.    Even the Moi will thrown his lot with Jubilee next year.

[Nefertiti]

I interact with Gema alot -- Ruto 2022 Gema hope is mixed bag. Some Gema just pointblank tell you they cannot vote for the man. Some hope Peter Kenneth will man up and ensure it is a real coalition not JAP which they see as Kanu. In short: Gema don't trust RV despite Ruto's oil tongue. Horror memories.

Kiambaa is the sort of thing that will be passed in folklore: "noted, sorting-out to done in due course".  Serve it cold.   In the meantime, hugs and forgiveness all around.   

In Ruto's shoes I would have insisted that 50-50 also mean 5-year alternations, not a patient waiting for who-knows-what at the end of 10 years.   But right now Ruto has no choice but to go along with Uhuru's program, so it is probably pointless for Simanova & Co to get excited about how he will get shafted in 2022.    Even the Moi will thrown his lot with Jubilee next year.

He seems genuinely convinced he can get a good slice Gemaful for the biggest pie hence the labored courtship at play. Who knows? He was not shafted in the arrangement, too smart, he was rewarded in kind. I do see a path for him thanks to lack of credible competition. Just that, not Gema bankability.

The trips are well paid for. The other figure in the math is a lull to make himself palatable while Raila dies off, old age. Only man outside and in Gema. Both birds.

[RV Pundit]

I don't think GEMA  litte men and women that you interract with are capable of making or guiding a political move. Many Kalenjin had ever bigger reservation on Uhuru in 02 and 13 but see who they voted for. I will continue to watch their leaders. Don't waste time listening to random Kikuyu or Kalenjin or Luo or Luhya...they move when the leader say move.

Ruto biggest threat in GEMA is a strong leader emerging outside Uhuru - I don't see that happening - while Uhuru is still politically adept and now that Jubilee is a big party -- with so many non-gema - folks who will frown and crush any such ambitous gema leader trying to mess up the apple cart.

The GEMA leaders that will to oppose Ruto will not be mainstream - the likes of angry Karau or the clueless peter kenneth(your candidate or was it maDVD) --- will not sway GEMA while Uhuru is there guiding the sheeps to Ruto presidency in 2012.

And yet Ruto isn't exactly "depending" on GEMA endorsing him. That was stupid Kalonzo and MaDVD move. You don't do that...you go to GEMA from a point of strength.Ruto is running several threads .... working hard to replace Raila as the de-facto Non-GEMA leader and seem to be succeeding ..while remaining loyal to GEMA base. You'll see in 2017 who end up with most leaders in Jubilee!

Jubilee  party will end up with so many mps, governors and senators - majority non-gema and directly loyal to Ruto - and therefore a Kikuyu upstart - will only break up part of Kikuyu vote -- if Uhuru allows him to do that.

I interact with Gema alot -- Ruto 2022 Gema hope is mixed bag. Some Gema just pointblank tell you they cannot vote for the man. Some hope Peter Kenneth will man up and ensure it is a real coalition not JAP which they see as Kanu. In short: Gema don't trust RV despite Ruto's oil tongue. Horror memories.

Pundit does not entertain this possibility.

[Nefertiti]

Raila sees this and is powerless to stop him. Works crazy to thwat JAP in Maa, coast and western. Ruto's strategy to be de facto non-Gema leader is time. With Gema slice he could be unassailable in 2022: first Kenyan to score both divides 

Raila remains Ruto's biggest threat. Noone else has the grey matter. I am with you. We don't have great politicians for sure. Your WSR fetish would crash big-time should he disappoint once on the tower.

I don't think GEMA  litte men and women that you interract with are capable of making or guiding a political move. Many Kalenjin had ever bigger reservation on Uhuru in 02 and 13 but see who they voted for. I will continue to watch their leaders. Don't waste time listening to random Kikuyu or Kalenjin or Luo or Luhya...they move when the leader say move.

Ruto biggest threat in GEMA is a strong leader emerging outside Uhuru - I don't see that happening - while Uhuru is still politically adept and now that Jubilee is a big party -- with so many non-gema - folks who will frown and crush any such ambitous gema leader trying to mess up the apple cart.

The GEMA leaders that will to oppose Ruto will not be mainstream - the likes of angry Karau or the clueless peter kenneth(your candidate or was it maDVD) --- will not sway GEMA while Uhuru is there guiding the sheeps to Ruto presidency in 2012.

And yet Ruto isn't exactly "depending" on GEMA endorsing him. That was stupid Kalonzo and MaDVD move. You don't do that...you go to GEMA from a point of strength.Ruto is running several threads .... working hard to replace Raila as the de-facto Non-GEMA leader and seem to be succeeding ..while remaining loyal to GEMA base. You'll see in 2017 who end up with most leaders in Jubilee!

Jubilee  party will end up with so many mps, governors and senators - majority non-gema and directly loyal to Ruto - and therefore a Kikuyu upstart - will only break up part of Kikuyu vote -- if Uhuru allows him to do that.

I interact with Gema alot -- Ruto 2022 Gema hope is mixed bag. Some Gema just pointblank tell you they cannot vote for the man. Some hope Peter Kenneth will man up and ensure it is a real coalition not JAP which they see as Kanu. In short: Gema don't trust RV despite Ruto's oil tongue. Horror memories.

Pundit does not entertain this possibility.

[Nefertiti]

I wanted Peter Kenneth on principle (patriotism) seeing UhuRuto key plank: it's us or bloodshed. As if they had a right to cause mayhem 

PK should be Murang'a governor by now at least... scoring top awards like CDF. Angling for 2022 as top running mate while aligning the ground. The fool. You need brains and resources to match Ruto which only old Raila has -- hence 2022 timeline to see him off.

What does Ruto plan to do with 70%+1 Kanu 2.0 in 2022? Will Kenya fully industrialize?

WSR scares me.

The GEMA leaders that will to oppose Ruto will not be mainstream - the likes of angry Karau or the clueless peter kenneth(your candidate or was it maDVD) --- will not sway GEMA while Uhuru is there guiding the sheeps to Ruto presidency in 2012.

[Nefertiti]

Question Pundit :

Will there be 50-50 MOU in Kanu 2.0 or will it be Ruto kityo? Unless Gema high council snap out by 2023 everyone will be bowing to His Highness Lord WSR.

Raila is really gnashing teeth. Ignorance is bliss.

[Pajero]

Ruto is day dreaming,he gets over excited with the lie that kikuyus will back him.Major players 2022 will still be Raila & Kenneth,rest of politicians will rotate around them.Take that to nearest sacco.

[RV Pundit]

Glad you have picked a sacco - last time we took you thud cheques to the bank and it didn't work out.

So this is the deal with Raila confused sheep. Btw 08-2013 - spend all day claiming Kalenjin will not vote for Uhuru - That happened. Okay console ourselves that Ruto was paid and sold Kalenjin. Mmh the mighty kalenjin who were suppose to be oil and kikuyu water were apparently sold.

Now 2017 is all forgoten - Uhuru will win and Kalenjin have endorsed that.

Now btw now and 2022 -- all we will hear - day and night - is how Kikuyu will not vote for Ruto  - not with PEV - not with I don't know what.

It going to be a tired long song till the night of 2022.

Ruto is day dreaming,he gets over excited with the lie that kikuyus will back him.Major players 2022 will still be Raila & Kenneth,rest of politicians will rotate around them.Take that to nearest sacco.

[RV Pundit]

Somebody with half a brain like MaDVD or Peter Kenneth cannot become PORK in very competitive politics like Kenya. PK is out and done. He is not going to emerge from nowhere to win 2022. Not unless it belong to his mother.PK if he had brains..should have gone for governor...doing really great stuff like Mutua..and he would be scaring Ruto. I think Ruto has to worry about the likes of Mutua....not an upstart like maDVD or Kenneth.

Ma-DVD was played kimataifa by UhuRuto...Ruto drove to his house with Uhuru and they sign off PORK to clueless fool

I wanted Peter Kenneth on principle (patriotism) seeing UhuRuto key plank: it's us or bloodshed. As if they had a right to cause mayhem 

PK should be Murang'a governor by now at least... scoring top awards like CDF. Angling for 2022 as top running mate while aligning the ground. The fool. You need brains and resources to match Ruto which only old Raila has -- hence 2022 timeline to see him off.

What does Ruto plan to do with 70%+1 Kanu 2.0 in 2022? Will Kenya fully industrialize?

WSR scares me.

[RV Pundit]

Yeah Raila is Ruto biggest threat - and has been for sometime - ever seen he came with his NDP trojan horse - and took off "KANU" or "Non-GEMA" constitutuency to LDP from Moi's KANU - and then later Ruto took the remaining -Kamatusa - to form ODM. Ruto has Raila on his crosshair for that reason.

Ruto has to work hard to bring back the "swing" non-big five kabila vote to his corner from Raila corner - so far I think he has done it -- we just need 2017 election to confirm this.

Once Ruto has the old Moi KANU constitutuency - 35% - of kenya - then it questions of who to make a deal with - 1 or 2  of   2 OR 3 BIG TRIBES - GEMA are the first obvious choice thanks to gentleman Uhuru- but if things don't work out - then Ruto will just need another big tribe - to take DPORK & 50% of the vote.

Therefore Ruto has to keep hitting Raila with everything he got.  With Jubilee party  - I expect to see Ruto finally upstaging the old, broke and tired Raila in 2017 --finally reducing ODM to it's NDP core.

So don't expect the war btw Raila and Ruto to end  - it not personally - it business  - Ruto has to bring back COAST, KAMATUSA, Somalis and their allies and all small tribes back to "KANU". The last election Ruto succeeded in bringing about half of them  back - Raila still has about 50 non-gema MPS that Ruto wants.

Raila if he remains with his original Luo constitutuency and GEMA remain as ever inward looking - then Ruto has NO REAL competitor for 2012.

Raila sees this and is powerless to stop him. Works crazy to thwat JAP in Maa, coast and western. Ruto's strategy to be de facto non-Gema leader is time. With Gema slice he could be unassailable in 2022: first Kenyan to score both divides 

Raila remains Ruto's biggest threat. Noone else has the grey matter. I am with you. We don't have great politicians for sure. Your WSR fetish would crash big-time should he disappoint once on the tower.

[Pajero]

Ruto is a nobody outside the five kalenjin dominated counties.He is just riding on Uhurus shadows.

[RV Pundit]

I think there won't be any MOU. Mou was needed to assure the Kalenjin that things will be okay. The next election is bigger than Kalenjin - Ruto is looking into 2022. Ruto will be looking out for many small tribes...so as long as Uhuru appoint the face of Kenya - I think Ruto will be just fine. Ruto is focussing on 2022 - if it mean Uhuru get 70% - that will be fine - as golden handshake - as long as he supports, endorses and campaign for Ruto to become 2022 PORK - and nip any GEMA upstart from messing up the plan. If that doesn't happen - then Uhuru will have to govern in very difficult situation - and 2022 will be "war" literally.

Question Pundit :

Will there be 50-50 MOU in Kanu 2.0 or will it be Ruto kityo? Unless Gema high council snap out by 2023 everyone will be bowing to His Highness Lord WSR.

Raila is really gnashing teeth. Ignorance is bliss.

[RV Pundit]

URP 78: TNA 85:ODM 96. That doesn't sound like "nobody". URP won everything in Mandera. That doesn't sound Kalenjin. Won everything in Narok. Won all seats in Teso. Won half of Turkana. Won everything in Samburu. Won half of Isiolo and Marsabit. Sounds like nothing. The only place that Uhuru messed up Ruto is coast. Ruto also messed up Uhuru in Gusii.  I think both places are now softening enough for Ruto & Uhuru to take it over in 2017.

Next year expect the tryranny to be even more tryanically.

Ruto is a nobody outside the five kalenjin dominated counties.He is just riding on Uhurus shadows.

[Nefertiti]

Uhuru could easily upstage Ruto if he wanted. What for? If I was he, and I imagine meetings have been held, I would handpick 50% non-Gema in JAP and groom DPORK. Man enough to hold the house. Tough job.

Any insight into WSR Kanu 2.0 plans?

I think there won't be any MOU. Mou was needed to assure the Kalenjin that things will be okay. The next election is bigger than Kalenjin. Ruto will be looking out for many small tribes. So as long as Uhuru appoint the face of Kenya - I think Ruto will be just fine. Ruto is focussing on 2022 - if it mean Uhuru get 70% - that will be fine - as golden handshake - as long as he supports, endorses and campaign for Ruto to become 2022 PORK - and nip any GEMA upstart from messing up the plan. If that doesn't happen - then Uhuru will have to govern in very difficult situation - and 2022 will be "war" literally.

Question Pundit :

Will there be 50-50 MOU in Kanu 2.0 or will it be Ruto kityo? Unless Gema high council snap out by 2023 everyone will be bowing to His Highness Lord WSR.

Raila is really gnashing teeth. Ignorance is bliss.

[Pajero]

Having an mp elected on your party ticket does not translate to votes.He got two mps in busia but the presidential votes went to Raila,He got mps in Turkana & samburu but the presidential votes went to Raila,he got mps in Narok but Raila still got more votes than Uhuru in Narok. Dont be cheated with mps,no wonder he is busy buying opposition mps left,right and centre.