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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2014, 04:55:29 PM »
Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list
vooke has presented evidence of the practice; frequent lynchings over there
So Kisiis are idiots who who lynch and burn houses over imaginary stuff? That must be tribal insanity then
Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2014, 04:56:26 PM »
@Kadame,

Yes.  On the basis of your question in the deleted section, I am indeed really curious how the pastor defines superstition.  Very curious.  I want to understand his compass.
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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2014, 05:00:35 PM »
Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list
vooke has presented evidence of the practice; frequent lynchings over there
So Kisiis are idiots who who lynch and burn houses over imaginary stuff? That must be tribal insanity then
Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Kissiis are superstitious people who share your mindset:propensity for unsupported belief. Tribal insanity? I have always wondered. In a way it is, commonly held superstition is no different from insanity, people behave much the same way...UNREASONABLY.

You just said whether witchcraft exists is not the issue. Your stated evidence is evidence of a widespread belief that witchcraft exists and that anything bad that happens to me has some witch behind it who must always be a neighbour I happen to have been feuding with.

You have presented your beliefs, nothing more. Your DEEPLY held beliefs, at that.


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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2014, 05:02:38 PM »
Does part of that 'superstitious' include witchcraft?
Kissiis are superstitious people who share your mindset:propensity for superstition. Tribal insanity? I have always wondered. In a way it is, commonly held superstition is no different from insanity, people behave much the same way...UNREASONABLY.

You just said whether witchcraft exists is not the issue. Your stated evidence is evidence of a widespread belief that witchcraft exists and that anything bad that happens to me has some witch behind it who must always be a neighbour I happen to have been feuding with.

You have presented your beliefs, nothing more. Your DEEPLY held beliefs, at that.


2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2014, 05:05:13 PM »
Does part of that 'superstitious' include witchcraft?
Kissiis are superstitious people who share your mindset:propensity for superstition. Tribal insanity? I have always wondered. In a way it is, commonly held superstition is no different from insanity, people behave much the same way...UNREASONABLY.

You just said whether witchcraft exists is not the issue. Your stated evidence is evidence of a widespread belief that witchcraft exists and that anything bad that happens to me has some witch behind it who must always be a neighbour I happen to have been feuding with.

You have presented your beliefs, nothing more. Your DEEPLY held beliefs, at that.


The superstition is exactly what you have presented here: Someone believes something with ABSOLUTELY ZERO supporting facts, hence I am compelled to believe it. In other words, just engage in a bit of self-examination and you will understand all the Gusii lynchers you was referring to.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2014, 05:08:12 PM »
Am not interested in understanding negroes whose main fetish is 70 year old nyamchom much less those denying the same
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94882459

let's just say munaonewa
The superstition is exactly what you have presented here: Someone believes something with ABSOLUTELY ZERO supporting facts, hence I am compelled to believe it. In other words, just engage in a bit of self-examination and you will understand all the Gusii lynchers.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2014, 05:13:56 PM »
Am not interested in understanding negroes whose main fetish is 70 year old nyamchom much less those denying the same
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94882459

let's just say munaonewa
The superstition is exactly what you have presented here: Someone believes something with ABSOLUTELY ZERO supporting facts, hence I am compelled to believe it. In other words, just engage in a bit of self-examination and you will understand all the Gusii lynchers.
Lets just say, pastor's beliefs in other people's beliefs are sacred. Asking him to present facts is abomination.

Kuonewa nini? Gusiis (not all) engage in outright murder of weak defenseless elderly women based on petty village feuds and blame it on the boogeyman witch, and you, the self-appointed resident "debunker" of conspiracy theories are the number 1 believer of the factless myths used to justify it. 

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2014, 05:30:44 PM »
@Kadame,

Yes.  On the basis of your question in the deleted section, I am indeed really curious how the pastor defines superstition.  Very curious.  I want to understand his compass.
The next time I catch him harrassing someone with accusations of "conspiracy theories" I will remind him to answer your question first and then link to the stories he was telling Pundit ???

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2014, 06:43:08 PM »
Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2014, 07:42:19 PM »

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2014, 07:43:08 PM »

What evidence will suffice?

Am not interested in understanding negroes whose main fetish is 70 year old nyamchom much less those denying the same
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94882459

let's just say munaonewa
The superstition is exactly what you have presented here: Someone believes something with ABSOLUTELY ZERO supporting facts, hence I am compelled to believe it. In other words, just engage in a bit of self-examination and you will understand all the Gusii lynchers.
Lets just say, pastor's beliefs in other people's beliefs are sacred. Asking him to present facts is abomination.

Kuonewa nini? Gusiis (not all) engage in outright murder of weak defenseless elderly women based on petty village feuds and blame it on the boogeyman witch, and you, the self-appointed resident "debunker" of conspiracy theories are the number 1 believer of the factless myths used to justify it. 
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2014, 07:44:10 PM »
Aks her, she introduced the vocabulary

Superstitions that are so unevenly distributed. not fair
Superstition tupu.
I am curious how you define superstition.  Very curious.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #72 on: September 15, 2014, 07:51:48 PM »

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
Coast people lynched people? Gasp! Incontrovertible proof of witchcraft! :D

Evidence, how about the same threshold you usually demand for your conspiracy targets? So far we have stories of killers that their victims were witches. That's your proof for witches. You dont even care to interrogate any of the things they say. Apparently all witches are old vulnerable women, mostly widows in their 70s and 80s. When you have proof of a superstition, how about talking about a superstition so instead of claiming it is proof of witchcraft? You basically peddling the stories of those mgangas (conmen!) who claim to be able to drive out witchcraft from someone for a pretty sum.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2014, 07:58:47 PM »
Aks her, she introduced the vocabulary

Superstitions that are so unevenly distributed. not fair
Superstition tupu.
I am curious how you define superstition.  Very curious.
You used it to make a point, nonetheless; he wants to know your meaning, not mine.  :D

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2014, 07:59:50 PM »
There is no witchcraft in Kenia especially The religious Kisiis,just superstition...go to sleep now, this is boring

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
Coast people lynched people? Gasp! Incontrovertible proof of witchcraft! :D

Evidence, how about the same threshold you usually demand for your conspiracy targets? So far we have stories of killers that their victims were witches. That's your proof for witches. You dont even care to interrogate any of the things they say. Apparently all witches are old vulnerable women, mostly widows in their 70s and 80s. When you have proof of a superstition, how about talking about a superstition so instead of claiming it is proof of witchcraft? You basically peddling the stories of those mgangas (conmen!) who claim to be able to drive out witchcraft from someone for a pretty sum.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2014, 08:01:00 PM »
If its boring, stop posting yourself. 8) You are nobody's daddy.
There is no witchcraft in Kenia especially The religious Kisiis,just superstition...go to sleep now, this is boring

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
Coast people lynched people? Gasp! Incontrovertible proof of witchcraft! :D

Evidence, how about the same threshold you usually demand for your conspiracy targets? So far we have stories of killers that their victims were witches. That's your proof for witches. You dont even care to interrogate any of the things they say. Apparently all witches are old vulnerable women, mostly widows in their 70s and 80s. When you have proof of a superstition, how about talking about a superstition so instead of claiming it is proof of witchcraft? You basically peddling the stories of those mgangas (conmen!) who claim to be able to drive out witchcraft from someone for a pretty sum.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2014, 08:01:50 PM »
I took your own words, you used it first to dismiss whatever I said as superstition, Termie, get Oxford or something
Aks her, she introduced the vocabulary

Superstitions that are so unevenly distributed. not fair
Superstition tupu.
I am curious how you define superstition.  Very curious.
You used it to make a point, nonetheless; he wants to know your meaning, not mine.  :D
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2014, 08:03:31 PM »
You put a spiritless fight for Kissiii witchcraft, let's call it religion if witchcraft from South Nyanza is too offensive

If its boring, stop posting yourself. 8) You are nobody's daddy.
There is no witchcraft in Kenia especially The religious Kisiis,just superstition...go to sleep now, this is boring

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
Coast people lynched people? Gasp! Incontrovertible proof of witchcraft! :D

Evidence, how about the same threshold you usually demand for your conspiracy targets? So far we have stories of killers that their victims were witches. That's your proof for witches. You dont even care to interrogate any of the things they say. Apparently all witches are old vulnerable women, mostly widows in their 70s and 80s. When you have proof of a superstition, how about talking about a superstition so instead of claiming it is proof of witchcraft? You basically peddling the stories of those mgangas (conmen!) who claim to be able to drive out witchcraft from someone for a pretty sum.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2014, 08:04:55 PM »
Still here? I think we need to find a new word for boring, pastor is confused! :D
You put a spiritless fight for Kissiii witchcraft, let's call it religion if witchcraft from South Nyanza is too offensive

If its boring, stop posting yourself. 8) You are nobody's daddy.
There is no witchcraft in Kenia especially The religious Kisiis,just superstition...go to sleep now, this is boring

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
Coast people lynched people? Gasp! Incontrovertible proof of witchcraft! :D

Evidence, how about the same threshold you usually demand for your conspiracy targets? So far we have stories of killers that their victims were witches. That's your proof for witches. You dont even care to interrogate any of the things they say. Apparently all witches are old vulnerable women, mostly widows in their 70s and 80s. When you have proof of a superstition, how about talking about a superstition so instead of claiming it is proof of witchcraft? You basically peddling the stories of those mgangas (conmen!) who claim to be able to drive out witchcraft from someone for a pretty sum.

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Re: Australia is wrong to prosecute Esther Arunga
« Reply #79 on: September 15, 2014, 08:06:50 PM »

What's boring is lame excuse for Kisiis uchawi not .org
Still here? I think we need to find a new word for boring, pastor is confused! :D
You put a spiritless fight for Kissiii witchcraft, let's call it religion if witchcraft from South Nyanza is too offensive

If its boring, stop posting yourself. 8) You are nobody's daddy.
There is no witchcraft in Kenia especially The religious Kisiis,just superstition...go to sleep now, this is boring

They have lynched witches too, coast people....
They are not superstitious as Kisiii

Witchcraft is rampant in Kisiiland, Luoland, Luhyaland and Coast.
You are lamely removing Kisiiland from that list

Someone killed someone for a belief therefore it must be true!! Pray tell, when are you converting to the religion of Boko Hsaram and ISIS if this is what you believe?
Missed this part..."Removing Kisiiland". Question is, who put who put ANY of them on that list and based on what evidence? I am sure you also believe that black cats in Coast speak like people and turn into beautiful seductive women, too...majini. Afterall, the story has been told in Kenya for ages, it surely must be true. There are also very beautiful women who have goat legs and walk backwards, again majini. My cousin claimed to have met one on a school trip to Mombasa.
Coast people lynched people? Gasp! Incontrovertible proof of witchcraft! :D

Evidence, how about the same threshold you usually demand for your conspiracy targets? So far we have stories of killers that their victims were witches. That's your proof for witches. You dont even care to interrogate any of the things they say. Apparently all witches are old vulnerable women, mostly widows in their 70s and 80s. When you have proof of a superstition, how about talking about a superstition so instead of claiming it is proof of witchcraft? You basically peddling the stories of those mgangas (conmen!) who claim to be able to drive out witchcraft from someone for a pretty sum.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.