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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2016, 12:06:59 PM »
You're right Sanders seems to get the medical and college crazy costs, political finance reforms, plus ending prison enterprise. Sadly his ideas like free universal education have been called pie-in-the-sky with dismal chance in GOP Congress.

Wall Street-sponsored Hillary... business as usual.

The good guys don't stand a chance. Bernie trails HRC by a whooping 700 delegates  :(


Interesting. I don't like Hillary and Ted Cruz. Don't mind Trump either. But Sanders is probably the only guy who can fix some issues America has.
Hillary is scary.  She is Dick Cheney in drag.  America needs a leader to normalize its profile in international affairs.  It's too much of a rogue state.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2016, 03:27:38 PM »
I am a Bernie Mac guy.. Love the granddaddy of socialism. One thing though Vermot has a issue with welfare abuse. I worked there and I was amazed that businesses were closing because residents would rather be on welfare than work.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2016, 04:46:16 PM »
You're right Sanders seems to get the medical and college crazy costs, political finance reforms, plus ending prison enterprise. Sadly his ideas like free universal education have been called pie-in-the-sky with dismal chance in GOP Congress.

Wall Street-sponsored Hillary... business as usual.

The good guys don't stand a chance. Bernie trails HRC by a whooping 700 delegates  :(


Interesting. I don't like Hillary and Ted Cruz. Don't mind Trump either. But Sanders is probably the only guy who can fix some issues America has.
Hillary is scary.  She is Dick Cheney in drag.  America needs a leader to normalize its profile in international affairs.  It's too much of a rogue state.
She is a neocon.  Happy to commit the country to perpetual warfare at the service of the military industrial complex.  Obama tried to dial it back, but it backfired, thanks to her push-back; Libya is her baby.  There would have likely been boots on the ground in Syria under her watch.  With the chaos in the ME she'll be like a child in a candy store.  People will die.

She will say anything to get elected.  In 2008, she paints Obama as a gun-hating liberal, trying to win votes from rural white religious gun lovers; today she paints Sanders as a gun-loving hawk; even trying to suggest that Vermont under Bernie's representation is responsible for gun-violence in New York. 
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #83 on: April 19, 2016, 05:30:54 PM »
You're right Sanders seems to get the medical and college crazy costs, political finance reforms, plus ending prison enterprise. Sadly his ideas like free universal education have been called pie-in-the-sky with dismal chance in GOP Congress.

Wall Street-sponsored Hillary... business as usual.

The good guys don't stand a chance. Bernie trails HRC by a whooping 700 delegates  :(


Interesting. I don't like Hillary and Ted Cruz. Don't mind Trump either. But Sanders is probably the only guy who can fix some issues America has.
Hillary is scary.  She is Dick Cheney in drag.  America needs a leader to normalize its profile in international affairs.  It's too much of a rogue state.
She is a neocon.  Happy to commit the country to perpetual warfare at the service of the military industrial complex.  Obama tried to dial it back, but it backfired, thanks to her push-back; Libya is her baby.  There would have likely been boots on the ground in Syria under her watch.  With the chaos in the ME she'll be like a child in a candy store.  People will die.

She will say anything to get elected.  In 2008, she paints Obama as a gun-hating liberal, trying to win votes from rural white religious gun lovers; today she paints Sanders as a gun-loving hawk; even trying to suggest that Vermont under Bernie's representation is responsible for gun-violence in New York.

I have a distinct nudge she will not grace the Oval for similar reasons as Obama whooped her on: little authenticity and charm. It is amazing that Trump promises to be much less expeditionary, don't you think?

There was a severe political wind under Obama by now in 08. Now there is one too, just not from Hillary.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2016, 08:04:43 AM »
Trumps wins big. He wins five states with really big machines.

This looks like Trump versus Clinton for the main.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2016, 06:52:17 PM »
It's squaring out as

Trump - Whites + blue-collars
Clinton - Women + minorities

Killer shot is whose populism can rip more from the other. Training on the poor is where Trump has flipped the classic GOP on its head.

Trumps wins big. He wins five states with really big machines.

This looks like Trump versus Clinton for the main.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2016, 07:19:59 PM »
The establishment is anti Trump, but the commoners are for him. GOP created this and now they have to eat it.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #87 on: May 04, 2016, 11:42:39 AM »
Looks Trump is the next Leicester. Consistency despite odds and disbelief.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #88 on: May 23, 2016, 04:38:31 AM »
The latest EC forecast from Cook:




DEM: 304
GOP: 190
Toss Up: 44

http://cookpolitical.com/presidential/charts/scorecard
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #89 on: May 24, 2016, 09:42:41 PM »
Hillary trails Trump in new Washington Post polls.  She is terribly unlikeable.  As bad as Trump is, people would rather see his face for four years than do the same for Hillary.  If there was a year for a third party even fourth party candidate to have a real shot, 2016 is it.
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It's not the headline, and it takes 219 words to get there, but a new Washington Post poll on the presidential race reveals that Republican Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton among registered voters 46 percent to 44 percent.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/begrudging-wapo-poll-trump-46-clinton-44/article/2591982
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #90 on: May 24, 2016, 10:55:53 PM »
Hillary trails Trump in new Washington Post polls.  She is terribly unlikeable.  As bad as Trump is, people would rather see his face for four years than do the same for Hillary.  If there was a year for a third party even fourth party candidate to

On the other hand ... from NBC:

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Clinton currently leads Trump by 4 points (47 percent to 43 percent) among registered voters; this margin is nearly unchanged from last week's results.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-majority-americans-dislike-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-n578926

Along with a claim that they are equally detested:

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This week's poll probed how American voters feel about both Trump and Clinton. A majority of voters expressed negative feelings about both leading candidates. Traditionally a fair number of partisans on either side of the aisle express negative opinions about the other party's candidate, but the latest poll found that a majority of voters express negative feelings about both leading candidates.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #91 on: May 30, 2016, 02:44:23 AM »
Hillary trails Trump in new Washington Post polls.  She is terribly unlikeable.  As bad as Trump is, people would rather see his face for four years than do the same for Hillary.  If there was a year for a third party even fourth party candidate to have a real shot, 2016 is it.
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It's not the headline, and it takes 219 words to get there, but a new Washington Post poll on the presidential race reveals that Republican Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton among registered voters 46 percent to 44 percent.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/begrudging-wapo-poll-trump-46-clinton-44/article/2591982


Hillary is damaged goods, a flawed candidate of historic proportions. She is still the lesser of two evils. If the presidential election were held today, I will probably vote for her.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #92 on: May 30, 2016, 02:51:41 AM »
Donald has an ego that if activated may cause problems for USA.
Giving him power is like opening a door to a candy store for a kid.


Hillary trails Trump in new Washington Post polls.  She is terribly unlikeable.  As bad as Trump is, people would rather see his face for four years than do the same for Hillary.  If there was a year for a third party even fourth party candidate to have a real shot, 2016 is it.
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It's not the headline, and it takes 219 words to get there, but a new Washington Post poll on the presidential race reveals that Republican Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton among registered voters 46 percent to 44 percent.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/begrudging-wapo-poll-trump-46-clinton-44/article/2591982


Hillary is damaged goods, a flawed candidate of historic proportions. She is still the lesser of two evils. If the presidential election were held today, I will probably vote for her.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #93 on: June 10, 2016, 09:36:33 AM »
This election will be won on three or four points.

- Demographics
- Cultural variance
- Obama's popularity
- Donald Trump

On demographics, it's clear that the share of white voters in the general elections - presidential - has been declining by an average of three or four percent in every election cycle since the eighties. Put differently, there are not enough angry blue collar white guys to tip the scale for Trump. Meanwhile, minority voters, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians share of the voting population has been rising -- a boon for the Democrats.

As someone who's been voting at the generals since 1992, who vividly recalls the culture wars of the eighties and the nineties on feminism, affirmative action, abortion, and later on gay rights, etc, all I can tell Trump and the Republicans is that this country's culture is changing....fast. Today, when I talk to the twenty and thirty something year old young folks, the so-called millennials, it strikes me that many of those wedge issues are not as important to them.

Frankly and objectively speaking, Barack Obama will go down as one of the ten most significant presidents of this country. One might call me biased, but observing what I have whenever I travel overseas, whenever asked I always remind folks of Obama's momentous achievements: the Iran Nuclear Deal; rapprochement with Cuba; ending the ill conceived war in Iraq; resuscitating the U.S economy in 2009 from imminent depression; solid employment growth over the past six years; fending off China in the South China Sea and in East Asia; standing up for our allies Japan and South Korea vis-a-vis North Korea.

So, Obama's high popularity is a plus for Hillary going forward in the campaign cycle, especially with white women, minority voters, and even with independents and some moderate Republicans.

Trump. The madman with money. Here's a guy who will get his comeuppance and a proper lesson on what really dirty politics and op research in politics mean when he faces off with the unrelenting Clinton machine. Forget Jeb Bush, Rubio, Cruz, and the like.

Trump is sleazy but the Clintons can be sleazier.

I see a 1988 George H. W Bush type shellacking of Dukakis. President Clinton II.


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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2016, 09:42:52 AM »
The polls don't show a shellacking. This race is going down to wire. Obama brought in new votes..blacks, young students & minorities..and Trump is bringing back the disenfranchised white blue-collar Americans. Clinton who couldn't even beat a socilaist Sanders till last minute is certainly far assured from beating Donald Trump who beat many republicans while essentially doing what he is doing. There are so many people who just don't like Hillary.

Hillary is trying to be nice to everyone. Trump has set his eyes on his niche and is not giving a damn about Latinos and Blacks. At end of the day..he knows whites are still 70% plus of the US of A...blacks and latinos maybe 10% each.
 

This election will be won on three or four points.

- Demographics
- Cultural variance
- Obama's popularity
- Donald Trump

On demographics, it's clear that the share of white voters in the general elections - presidential - has been declining by an average of three or four percent in every election cycle since the eighties. Put differently, there are not enough angry blue collar white guys to tip the scale for Trump. Meanwhile, minority voters, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians share of the voting population has been rising -- a boon for the Democrats.

As someone who's been voting at the generals since 1992, who vividly recalls the culture wars of the eighties and the nineties on feminism, affirmative action, abortion, and later on gay rights, etc, all I can tell Trump and the Republicans is that this country's culture is changing....fast. Today, when I talk to the twenty and thirty something year old young folks, the so-called millennials, it strikes me that many of those wedge issues are not as important to them.

Frankly and objectively speaking, Barack Obama will go down as one of the ten most significant presidents of this country. One might call me biased, but observing what I have whenever I travel to overseas, whenever asked I always remind folks of Obama's momentous achievements: the Iran Nuclear Deal; rapprochement with Cuba; ending the ill conceived war in Iraq; resuscitating the U.S economy in 2009 from imminent depression; solid employment growth over the past six years; fending off China in the South China Sea and in East Asia; standing up for our allies Japan and South Korea vis-a-vis North Korea.

So, Obama's high popularity is a plus for Hillary going forward in the campaign cycle, especially with minority voters and even with independents and some moderate Republicans.

Trump. The madman with money. Here's a guy who will get his comeuppance and a proper lesson on what really dirty politics and op research in politics means when he faces off with the Clintons.

Trump is sleazy but the Clintons can be even sleazier.

I see a George H. W Bush type shellacking of Dukakis 1988. President Clinton II.



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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2016, 10:09:40 AM »
I would be cautious when citing U.S. demographics. As I stated earlier, in each of our electiion cycles since the 1980s, the share of white voters has a percentage of total voters has been declining by three to four percent - today, I believe it's somewhere in the upper 60s.

Trump will not get the entire 68% of the white vote or whatever it is today. He'll get a majority of the male white vote I would surmise but not enough to make up for his glaring weaknesses among other demographics, including white women and white millennials.

Then remember that this is not Kenya where a sociopath with money can get himself elected president of Kenya despite having "allegedly" killed so many folks in the Rift Valley PEV of 2008.

 As the Clintons get ready to take on and expose Trump - and I'm not particularly a fan of Hillary with her warmongering neocon worldview and her questionable integrity, FOIA issues and email controversy etc - many people will finally see Trump for who he really is: an intellectually shallow, mentally unbalanced, ill-prepared, corrupt, misogynistic man.



The polls don't show a shellacking. This race is going down to wire. Obama brought in new votes..blacks, young students & minorities..and Trump is bringing back the disenfranchised white collar Americans. Clinton who couldn't even beat a socilaist Sanders till last minute is certainly far assured from beating Donald Trump who beat many republicans while essentially doing what he is doing. There are so many people who just don't like Hillary.

Hillary is trying to be nice to everyone. Trump has set his eyes on his niche and is not giving a damn about Latinos and Blacks. At end of the day..he knows whites are still 70% plus of the US of A...blacks and latinos maybe 10% each.
 

This election will be won on three or four points.

- Demographics
- Cultural variance
- Obama's popularity
- Donald Trump

On demographics, it's clear that the share of white voters in the general elections - presidential - has been declining by an average of three or four percent in every election cycle since the eighties. Put differently, there are not enough angry blue collar white guys to tip the scale for Trump. Meanwhile, minority voters, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians share of the voting population has been rising -- a boon for the Democrats.

As someone who's been voting at the generals since 1992, who vividly recalls the culture wars of the eighties and the nineties on feminism, affirmative action, abortion, and later on gay rights, etc, all I can tell Trump and the Republicans is that this country's culture is changing....fast. Today, when I talk to the twenty and thirty something year old young folks, the so-called millennials, it strikes me that many of those wedge issues are not as important to them.

Frankly and objectively speaking, Barack Obama will go down as one of the ten most significant presidents of this country. One might call me biased, but observing what I have whenever I travel to overseas, whenever asked I always remind folks of Obama's momentous achievements: the Iran Nuclear Deal; rapprochement with Cuba; ending the ill conceived war in Iraq; resuscitating the U.S economy in 2009 from imminent depression; solid employment growth over the past six years; fending off China in the South China Sea and in East Asia; standing up for our allies Japan and South Korea vis-a-vis North Korea.

So, Obama's high popularity is a plus for Hillary going forward in the campaign cycle, especially with minority voters and even with independents and some moderate Republicans.

Trump. The madman with money. Here's a guy who will get his comeuppance and a proper lesson on what really dirty politics and op research in politics means when he faces off with the Clintons.

Trump is sleazy but the Clintons can be even sleazier.

I see a George H. W Bush type shellacking of Dukakis 1988. President Clinton II.



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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2016, 11:44:51 AM »
I guess kenyans or Kalenjin elected Trump the Republican nominees...not the milllions of Americans republican who preffered him against all men and women of substance and who when polled now have Trump neck and neck with Hillary. Politics is the same everywhere. It is a dirty pig sty everywhere. Trump has his weakness...but he also has strengths that some people are seeing...they see him a strong defender of American interests..they want someone to project American hard power...however impossible..they think Obama has failed.

So in short...until the fat lady sings..stop conflating your personal preference with dispassionate political punditry.

Trump is running strongly. That is a fact.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5949.html

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I would be cautious when citing U.S. demographics. As I stated earlier, in each of our electiion cycles since the 1980s, the share of white voters has a percentage of total voters has been declining by three to four percent - today, I believe it's somewhere in the upper 60s.

Trump will not get the entire 68% of the white vote or whatever it is today. He'll get a majority of the male white vote I would surmise but not enough to make up for his glaring weaknesses among other demographics, including white women and white millennials.

Then remember that this is not Kenya where a sociopath with money can get himself elected president of Kenya despite having "allegedly" killed so many folks in the Rift Valley PEV of 2008.

 As the Clintons get ready to take on and expose Trump - and I'm not particularly a fan of Hillary with her warmongering neocon worldview and her questionable integrity, FOIA issues and email controversy etc - many people will finally see Trump for who he really is: an intellectually shallow, mentally unbalanced, ill-prepared, corrupt, misogynistic man.

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« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2016, 04:40:31 PM »
 Trump is going nowhere after last weeks rant. He entangled himself and is unable to proceed. He is a ranting egomaniac.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2016, 05:46:30 PM »
Both Trump and Clinton are tough sells.  The polls will start to solidify in favor of Clinton once the hurt of the primaries wears off.  Barring an unlikely Bernie third party run.
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« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2016, 06:07:56 PM »
Trump has said worse. Most people including the repulican who were fell one after the other make this mistake that trump is an idiot. Really?. How did such an idiot make billion of money. How did he turn 1m dollar he inherited into billions if he wasn't smart.

Trumps doesn't care about blacks and latinos. Just like he doesn't care about liberals. He has basically written them off. Trump just want to pander to white blue-collar/poor whites...the redneck. If they can be energized to vote they can turn the tables against Hillary. Hillary has a problem repeating Obama. Maybe woman will get excited?

Racism in America is real..and Trump didn't invent it..he is playing the race card.....while acting dumb. If Trump can get the racist white Americans out there to turn up and votes..like Obama got the blacks interested in voting...then POTUS Trump is going to become a reality come nov.

Trump is going nowhere after last weeks rant. He entangled himself and is unable to proceed. He is a ranting egomaniac.