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Certainly those behind this need to get the EJK call ASAP...

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/-/1056/2908226/-/13mwkhgz/-/index.html
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Radicalisation in an upmarket estate near you - Kilimani kids edition
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 03:16:51 PM »
Gout

This EJK you keep celebrating is changing face. No longer do the police have the monopoly. The groups they have been killing have picked up vital lessons and have started targeting the police and from patterns in other countries, will move to softer targets like their families.

Where do you think it will end? Columbia had it running for over 50 years and now only negotiations will put an end to it. In fact the Colombian government started it all but the other groups overcame it, expelled it from certain areas and forced it to acknowledge their writ had no power in those rebel areas. The rebels then set about killing anybody - from Presidential candidates, MPs, Ministers and even lowly civil servants.

I would wish you would cheer something else. EJK is nothing to cheer. YOU TOO can be EJK'ed by either side. You are not immune.

Plus you cannot pontificate here about the wrongs of the state, opposition etc when you support one of the worst tenets of a dictatorship.
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Re: Radicalisation in an upmarket estate near you - Kilimani kids edition
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 11:52:44 AM »
there is no other practical solution to terrorists more so in an inherently corrupt place like ours .... EJK is working - now Eastleigh is back to 24 hours life .....

The 'Somali question' is going to haunt Kenya- apart from youth demographic, corruption and lack of productive culture it is going to be a serious threat due to their exclusionist culture. The somalis feel more Arab than African especially after three decades of gulf money to those preachers and elites.

I will read on Colombia.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Radicalisation in an upmarket estate near you - Kilimani kids edition
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 12:26:59 PM »
The last time I heard something so stupid is when George Bush announced that Mission Accomplished while on a warship. Nearly 12K soldiers would start dying as he spoke.

You did not grasp what I wrote and needless to say it is a waste of my time to discuss this with you. You will no doubt return here reacting to events as usual and decry the killing of security forces and their families. By then I would have moved on to analyse and predict new issues facing the country. So that there is no ambiguity let me restate: GoK started EJK: If it continues, other forces will join in and deprive GoK of the monopoly. History has shown that the latecomers usually overcome government and establish ownership of EJK.

You will curse EJK in your lifetime as long as you continue to cheer it on and GoK stupidly thinks it works.
there is no other practical solution to terrorists more so in an inherently corrupt place like ours .... EJK is working - now Eastleigh is back to 24 hours life .....

The 'Somali question' is going to haunt Kenya- apart from youth demographic, corruption and lack of productive culture it is going to be a serious threat due to their exclusionist culture. The somalis feel more Arab than African especially after three decades of gulf money to those preachers and elites.

I will read on Colombia.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Radicalisation in an upmarket estate near you - Kilimani kids edition
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 12:31:46 PM »
EJK did not work in Colombia: Dialogue is working ... practically!

It failed in El Salvador : Dialogue won

It led to the overthrow of Anastasio Somoza by the Sandinistas having been reversed to knock out the state

It failed in Guatemala but dialogue succeeded.

It failed to stop the opposition in Chile where the killers are still being pursued and imprisoned. Several former heads of state are behind bars for their role.

It is laughable to read what you write. You are having silly fun with a matter you hardly understand.
there is no other practical solution to terrorists more so in an inherently corrupt place like ours .... EJK is working - now Eastleigh is back to 24 hours life .....

The 'Somali question' is going to haunt Kenya- apart from youth demographic, corruption and lack of productive culture it is going to be a serious threat due to their exclusionist culture. The somalis feel more Arab than African especially after three decades of gulf money to those preachers and elites.

I will read on Colombia.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread