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HILARY CLINTON'S DECLASSIFIED EMAILS ON KIBERA
« on: September 02, 2015, 10:58:51 AM »
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Re: HILARY CLINTON'S DECLASSIFIED EMAILS ON KIBERA
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2015, 04:30:20 PM »
I found this interesting quote from the state department.  It appears to confirm PNU election theft in 2007.  It also suggests that theft occurred on both sides; in my opinion, naively ignoring the strong possibility that any fake ballots in favor of ODM could have just as easily have been cast by the true thieves for obfuscation purposes, fully knowing that their own theft was going to cover the difference.  PNU was the only side in control of the tools and personnel to effect that kind of cheating.
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3. (SBU) There is little doubt that there were major irregularities in the way constituency vote tallies were received, verified and reported by the ECK in Nairobi between December 28 and December 30, and there appears little doubt that the cheating that took place at this level was done so exclusively by Party of National Unity (PNU) partisans in Kibaki's favor. There was cheating at the constituency level by the ODM and PNU. An interesting question arises:

Numerically, did this unprecedented form of central-level, 11th hour cheating in fact make the difference in who won and who lost? In other words, in taking into account all the data available, was the
cheating that occurred at KICC significant enough numerically to provide the margin of victory for Kibaki? The answer has important implications for how the current crisis might be resolved.
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/1-FY2012/F-2009-09061/DOC_0C17443900/C17443900.pdf
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Re: HILARY CLINTON'S DECLASSIFIED EMAILS ON KIBERA
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 05:47:54 PM »
I found this interesting quote from the state department.  It appears to confirm PNU election theft in 2007.  It also suggests that theft occurred on both sides; in my opinion, naively ignoring the strong possibility that any fake ballots in favor of ODM could have just as easily have been cast by the true thieves for obfuscation purposes, fully knowing that their own theft was going to cover the difference.  PNU was the only side in control of the tools and personnel to effect that kind of cheating.
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3. (SBU) There is little doubt that there were major irregularities in the way constituency vote tallies were received, verified and reported by the ECK in Nairobi between December 28 and December 30, and there appears little doubt that the cheating that took place at this level was done so exclusively by Party of National Unity (PNU) partisans in Kibaki's favor. There was cheating at the constituency level by the ODM and PNU. An interesting question arises:

Numerically, did this unprecedented form of central-level, 11th hour cheating in fact make the difference in who won and who lost? In other words, in taking into account all the data available, was the
cheating that occurred at KICC significant enough numerically to provide the margin of victory for Kibaki? The answer has important implications for how the current crisis might be resolved.
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/1-FY2012/F-2009-09061/DOC_0C17443900/C17443900.pdf
Rather silly question in my view. Of course it made the difference! Why else would it have been done at the 11th hour in that "unprecedented fashion", unless Kibaki had clearly lost? No time to cheat in the proper manner when you realize last minute that you have lost.
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Re: HILARY CLINTON'S DECLASSIFIED EMAILS ON KIBERA
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2015, 01:59:33 PM »
I found this interesting quote from the state department.  It appears to confirm PNU election theft in 2007.  It also suggests that theft occurred on both sides; in my opinion, naively ignoring the strong possibility that any fake ballots in favor of ODM could have just as easily have been cast by the true thieves for obfuscation purposes, fully knowing that their own theft was going to cover the difference.  PNU was the only side in control of the tools and personnel to effect that kind of cheating.
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3. (SBU) There is little doubt that there were major irregularities in the way constituency vote tallies were received, verified and reported by the ECK in Nairobi between December 28 and December 30, and there appears little doubt that the cheating that took place at this level was done so exclusively by Party of National Unity (PNU) partisans in Kibaki's favor. There was cheating at the constituency level by the ODM and PNU. An interesting question arises:

Numerically, did this unprecedented form of central-level, 11th hour cheating in fact make the difference in who won and who lost? In other words, in taking into account all the data available, was the
cheating that occurred at KICC significant enough numerically to provide the margin of victory for Kibaki? The answer has important implications for how the current crisis might be resolved.
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/1-FY2012/F-2009-09061/DOC_0C17443900/C17443900.pdf
Rather silly question in my view. Of course it made the difference! Why else would it have been done at the 11th hour in that "unprecedented fashion", unless Kibaki had clearly lost? No time to cheat in the proper manner when you realize last minute that you have lost.
Good observation.  The last minute rigging changed the outcome.  It was not done to give Kibaki a respectable second place.
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