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Poor man fumbles all over with noone grilling him. How do you figure this in a live debate with Sakaja or Babu Owino? :o

RiggyG cannot win with such a hopeless team. He needs an A-team of Malala, et al

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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2025, 01:42:28 PM »
I analysed after watching in high speeds, and I summarised the whole charade in few sentences:
Sabina Chege is the one making valid points, and it seems politicians from the mountain are trapped and don't really know what mountain voters want at this time, hence the confusion on which party to join with certainty. Some wants to be in Jubilee, others in DCP, and the rest in UDA because they can clearly see UDA is good for them and the country in development/issue matters.
Gakuya is demented like Gachagua and wants Kikuyu to stick together in voting against the system for grievance reasons, not development/issue reasons, aka Tumbocracy. DCP wants to unite the mountain first instead of nationalising the party first like the way UDA did. You want to build a strong national party, start far away from home, and home will slowly come to fold. DCP should be busy spending money in Nandi, Bungoma, Mombasa, Garissa, Turkana, UG, Samburu, Narok, Mandera, Baringo, etc., funding women's groups/boda boda, youth groups, church groups, mosques, etc., and funding local politicians, nyumba kumi leaders, etc., while selling policies like universal healthcare, housing, economy revival measures, and how to actualise them when power is acquired. That is how Ruto did with UDA relentlessly for 5 years, and RV automatically came to fold without much effort. I think DCP doesn't have money and a solid plan and structures to pull such a thing, only grievances and tribalism for now.
It will be very hard dislodging UDA nationwide, even in areas close to the mountain, especially if there are too many parties there. Places like Nakuru, Laikipia, Lamu, Embu, Meru, Tharaka Nithi, and Nairobi, where slum dwellers have seen impacts of affordable housing and Ruto's plans to move 7 million slum dwellers to better living conditions. Millions can see Ruto's work while politicians, especially DCP, are busy with kingpinship and tribal politics!
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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2025, 02:33:29 PM »
Who gave birth to you?

Babu Owino and Sakaja will split Luo Luhya Kamba vote and that's how GAKUYA will become governor through a solid GEMA vote.

Babu Owino can only deputize GAKUYA.Anything else is abujubuju.

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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2025, 02:47:03 PM »
I analysed after watching in high speeds, and I summarised the whole charade in few sentences:
Sabina Chege is the one making valid points, and it seems politicians from the mountain are trapped and don't really know what mountain voters want at this time, hence the confusion on which party to join with certainty. Some wants to be in Jubilee, others in DCP, and the rest in UDA because they can clearly see UDA is good for them and the country in development/issue matters.
Gakuya is demented like Gachagua and wants Kikuyu to stick together in voting against the system for grievance reasons, not development/issue reasons, aka Tumbocracy. DCP wants to unite the mountain first instead of nationalising the party first like the way UDA did. You want to build a strong national party, start far away from home, and home will slowly come to fold. DCP should be busy spending money in Nandi, Bungoma, Mombasa, Garissa, Turkana, UG, Samburu, Narok, Mandera, Baringo, etc., funding women's groups/boda boda, youth groups, church groups, mosques, etc., and funding local politicians, nyumba kumi leaders, etc., while selling policies like universal healthcare, housing, economy revival measures, and how to actualise them when power is acquired. That is how Ruto did with UDA relentlessly for 5 years, and RV automatically came to fold without much effort. I think DCP doesn't have money and a solid plan and structures to pull such a thing, only grievances and tribalism for now.
It will be very hard dislodging UDA nationwide, even in areas close to the mountain, especially if there are too many parties there. Places like Nakuru, Laikipia, Lamu, Embu, Meru, Tharaka Nithi, and Nairobi, where slum dwellers have seen impacts of affordable housing and Ruto's plans to move 7 million slum dwellers to better living conditions. Millions can see Ruto's work while politicians, especially DCP, are busy with kingpinship and tribal politics!

Shairi ndefu kama kawaida.

Ruto did not start national. After YK92 and Kanu rookie he went onto ODM Pentagon as Kalenjin rep. Had a UDM/URP Kalenjin then pastoralist party. He joined TNA as Jubilee and pulled a trojan into UDA... which lost virtually all but RV-Mlima to Azimio.

Ditto Raila. NDP, Kanu trojan into LDP, ODM.

Uhuru never went national.

Riggy is rounding up Gema with G7 crew. That is why he is desperate for Matiang'i to bring Gusii but Uhuru is inadvertently complicating things. Matiang'i will come to his senses - he seems to have at least an average iQ and can see which side his bread is buttered.
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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2025, 03:14:56 PM »
Who gave birth to you?

Babu Owino and Sakaja will split Luo Luhya Kamba vote and that's how GAKUYA will become governor through a solid GEMA vote.

Babu Owino can only deputize GAKUYA.Anything else is abujubuju.

Yes the Riggy-Kalonzo coalition you oppose is Gakuya's golden ticket. 8)

But I mean Gakuya's inability to express the most basic message in a way anyone not bred in Kariobangi understands.
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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2025, 03:21:06 PM »
I analysed after watching in high speeds, and I summarised the whole charade in few sentences:
Sabina Chege is the one making valid points, and it seems politicians from the mountain are trapped and don't really know what mountain voters want at this time, hence the confusion on which party to join with certainty. Some wants to be in Jubilee, others in DCP, and the rest in UDA because they can clearly see UDA is good for them and the country in development/issue matters.
Gakuya is demented like Gachagua and wants Kikuyu to stick together in voting against the system for grievance reasons, not development/issue reasons, aka Tumbocracy. DCP wants to unite the mountain first instead of nationalising the party first like the way UDA did. You want to build a strong national party, start far away from home, and home will slowly come to fold. DCP should be busy spending money in Nandi, Bungoma, Mombasa, Garissa, Turkana, UG, Samburu, Narok, Mandera, Baringo, etc., funding women's groups/boda boda, youth groups, church groups, mosques, etc., and funding local politicians, nyumba kumi leaders, etc., while selling policies like universal healthcare, housing, economy revival measures, and how to actualise them when power is acquired. That is how Ruto did with UDA relentlessly for 5 years, and RV automatically came to fold without much effort. I think DCP doesn't have money and a solid plan and structures to pull such a thing, only grievances and tribalism for now.
It will be very hard dislodging UDA nationwide, even in areas close to the mountain, especially if there are too many parties there. Places like Nakuru, Laikipia, Lamu, Embu, Meru, Tharaka Nithi, and Nairobi, where slum dwellers have seen impacts of affordable housing and Ruto's plans to move 7 million slum dwellers to better living conditions. Millions can see Ruto's work while politicians, especially DCP, are busy with kingpinship and tribal politics!

Shairi ndefu kama kawaida.

Ruto did not start national. After YK92 and Kanu rookie he went onto ODM Pentagon as Kalenjin rep. Had a UDM/URP Kalenjin then pastoralist party. He joined TNA as Jubilee and pulled a trojan into UDA... which lost virtually all but RV-Mlima to Azimio.

Ditto Raila. NDP, Kanu trojan into LDP, ODM.

Uhuru never went national.

Riggy is rounding up Gema with G7 crew. That is why he is desperate for Matiang'i to bring Gusii but Uhuru is inadvertently complicating things. Matiang'i will come to his senses - he seems to have at least an average iQ and can see which side his bread is buttered.
Those political formations Ruto, Raila, and Uhuru manoeuvred took them at least 15-20 years to get them to State House, or Raila close to the prime minister position. If you can remember well, Ruto made both Raila and Uhuru reach the apex and not the other way round. Ruto, with Raila and Uhuru in stiff opposition, won big. Gachagua has about 15-20 years to get to the Raila-Uhuru-Ruto level and maybe 10 years to catch Uhuru's political capital. He starts late at age 60, which means he has a very tall order. Ruto is not 60 yet! As an insider, I can tell you for free, you need trillions of shillings and a lethal brain to navigate Kenya's politics, two things Gachagua lack!
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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2025, 05:30:57 PM »
I analysed after watching in high speeds, and I summarised the whole charade in few sentences:
Sabina Chege is the one making valid points, and it seems politicians from the mountain are trapped and don't really know what mountain voters want at this time, hence the confusion on which party to join with certainty. Some wants to be in Jubilee, others in DCP, and the rest in UDA because they can clearly see UDA is good for them and the country in development/issue matters.
Gakuya is demented like Gachagua and wants Kikuyu to stick together in voting against the system for grievance reasons, not development/issue reasons, aka Tumbocracy. DCP wants to unite the mountain first instead of nationalising the party first like the way UDA did. You want to build a strong national party, start far away from home, and home will slowly come to fold. DCP should be busy spending money in Nandi, Bungoma, Mombasa, Garissa, Turkana, UG, Samburu, Narok, Mandera, Baringo, etc., funding women's groups/boda boda, youth groups, church groups, mosques, etc., and funding local politicians, nyumba kumi leaders, etc., while selling policies like universal healthcare, housing, economy revival measures, and how to actualise them when power is acquired. That is how Ruto did with UDA relentlessly for 5 years, and RV automatically came to fold without much effort. I think DCP doesn't have money and a solid plan and structures to pull such a thing, only grievances and tribalism for now.
It will be very hard dislodging UDA nationwide, even in areas close to the mountain, especially if there are too many parties there. Places like Nakuru, Laikipia, Lamu, Embu, Meru, Tharaka Nithi, and Nairobi, where slum dwellers have seen impacts of affordable housing and Ruto's plans to move 7 million slum dwellers to better living conditions. Millions can see Ruto's work while politicians, especially DCP, are busy with kingpinship and tribal politics!

Shairi ndefu kama kawaida.

Ruto did not start national. After YK92 and Kanu rookie he went onto ODM Pentagon as Kalenjin rep. Had a UDM/URP Kalenjin then pastoralist party. He joined TNA as Jubilee and pulled a trojan into UDA... which lost virtually all but RV-Mlima to Azimio.

Ditto Raila. NDP, Kanu trojan into LDP, ODM.

Uhuru never went national.

Riggy is rounding up Gema with G7 crew. That is why he is desperate for Matiang'i to bring Gusii but Uhuru is inadvertently complicating things. Matiang'i will come to his senses - he seems to have at least an average iQ and can see which side his bread is buttered.
Those political formations Ruto, Raila, and Uhuru manoeuvred took them at least 15-20 years to get them to State House, or Raila close to the prime minister position. If you can remember well, Ruto made both Raila and Uhuru reach the apex and not the other way round. Ruto, with Raila and Uhuru in stiff opposition, won big. Gachagua has about 15-20 years to get to the Raila-Uhuru-Ruto level and maybe 10 years to catch Uhuru's political capital. He starts late at age 60, which means he has a very tall order. Ruto is not 60 yet! As an insider, I can tell you for free, you need trillions of shillings and a lethal brain to navigate Kenya's politics, two things Gachagua lack!

Riggy was DO and other things, he did not spend his youth in politics. Losing for him would not be catastrophe. This is more retirement than career.

DCP is 3 months old. If they pull a NARC or Jubilee he can fight to clear his name under friendly regime. I think that's the plan.

Dispense Ruto, clear his name, run in 2032.

The lesson from Uhuru and Kibaki is it is not necessary to go national.
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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2025, 07:04:19 PM »
I analysed after watching in high speeds, and I summarised the whole charade in few sentences:
Sabina Chege is the one making valid points, and it seems politicians from the mountain are trapped and don't really know what mountain voters want at this time, hence the confusion on which party to join with certainty. Some wants to be in Jubilee, others in DCP, and the rest in UDA because they can clearly see UDA is good for them and the country in development/issue matters.
Gakuya is demented like Gachagua and wants Kikuyu to stick together in voting against the system for grievance reasons, not development/issue reasons, aka Tumbocracy. DCP wants to unite the mountain first instead of nationalising the party first like the way UDA did. You want to build a strong national party, start far away from home, and home will slowly come to fold. DCP should be busy spending money in Nandi, Bungoma, Mombasa, Garissa, Turkana, UG, Samburu, Narok, Mandera, Baringo, etc., funding women's groups/boda boda, youth groups, church groups, mosques, etc., and funding local politicians, nyumba kumi leaders, etc., while selling policies like universal healthcare, housing, economy revival measures, and how to actualise them when power is acquired. That is how Ruto did with UDA relentlessly for 5 years, and RV automatically came to fold without much effort. I think DCP doesn't have money and a solid plan and structures to pull such a thing, only grievances and tribalism for now.
It will be very hard dislodging UDA nationwide, even in areas close to the mountain, especially if there are too many parties there. Places like Nakuru, Laikipia, Lamu, Embu, Meru, Tharaka Nithi, and Nairobi, where slum dwellers have seen impacts of affordable housing and Ruto's plans to move 7 million slum dwellers to better living conditions. Millions can see Ruto's work while politicians, especially DCP, are busy with kingpinship and tribal politics!

Shairi ndefu kama kawaida.

Ruto did not start national. After YK92 and Kanu rookie he went onto ODM Pentagon as Kalenjin rep. Had a UDM/URP Kalenjin then pastoralist party. He joined TNA as Jubilee and pulled a trojan into UDA... which lost virtually all but RV-Mlima to Azimio.

Ditto Raila. NDP, Kanu trojan into LDP, ODM.

Uhuru never went national.

Riggy is rounding up Gema with G7 crew. That is why he is desperate for Matiang'i to bring Gusii but Uhuru is inadvertently complicating things. Matiang'i will come to his senses - he seems to have at least an average iQ and can see which side his bread is buttered.
Those political formations Ruto, Raila, and Uhuru manoeuvred took them at least 15-20 years to get them to State House, or Raila close to the prime minister position. If you can remember well, Ruto made both Raila and Uhuru reach the apex and not the other way round. Ruto, with Raila and Uhuru in stiff opposition, won big. Gachagua has about 15-20 years to get to the Raila-Uhuru-Ruto level and maybe 10 years to catch Uhuru's political capital. He starts late at age 60, which means he has a very tall order. Ruto is not 60 yet! As an insider, I can tell you for free, you need trillions of shillings and a lethal brain to navigate Kenya's politics, two things Gachagua lack!

Riggy was DO and other things, he did not spend his youth in politics. Losing for him would not be catastrophe. This is more retirement than career.

DCP is 3 months old. If they pull a NARC or Jubilee he can fight to clear his name under friendly regime. I think that's the plan.

Dispense Ruto, clear his name, run in 2032.

The lesson from Uhuru and Kibaki is it is not necessary to go national.
Uhuru and Kibaki went nation by proxy. Kibaki through Raila 'Kibaki tosha' and Uhuru through relentless Ruto campaigning for almost 3 years all over Kenya leading to the URP-TNA merger. For Gachagua to go national the Kibaki/Uhuru way, he needs 'Gachagua Tosha' from two people only in Kenya: either Ruto or Raila. Anything else is pure nonsense! If Ruto were to tosha and campaign for him aggressively, he'd be president in 2027; with Raila, it may take longer, maybe 2032. All he needed was to stay as a loyal deputy, say 'yes sir', and lay low, and he'd have spent less energy politically because he would have inherited RVGEMA to the tune of 95%. He'd only need Ruto's Somali pastoralists in Northeastern and a few of his Bungoma Bukusus to close the deal!
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Re: Githunguri - see how incoherent Gakuya is.. can't even make a simple point
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2025, 08:05:34 PM »
I analysed after watching in high speeds, and I summarised the whole charade in few sentences:
Sabina Chege is the one making valid points, and it seems politicians from the mountain are trapped and don't really know what mountain voters want at this time, hence the confusion on which party to join with certainty. Some wants to be in Jubilee, others in DCP, and the rest in UDA because they can clearly see UDA is good for them and the country in development/issue matters.
Gakuya is demented like Gachagua and wants Kikuyu to stick together in voting against the system for grievance reasons, not development/issue reasons, aka Tumbocracy. DCP wants to unite the mountain first instead of nationalising the party first like the way UDA did. You want to build a strong national party, start far away from home, and home will slowly come to fold. DCP should be busy spending money in Nandi, Bungoma, Mombasa, Garissa, Turkana, UG, Samburu, Narok, Mandera, Baringo, etc., funding women's groups/boda boda, youth groups, church groups, mosques, etc., and funding local politicians, nyumba kumi leaders, etc., while selling policies like universal healthcare, housing, economy revival measures, and how to actualise them when power is acquired. That is how Ruto did with UDA relentlessly for 5 years, and RV automatically came to fold without much effort. I think DCP doesn't have money and a solid plan and structures to pull such a thing, only grievances and tribalism for now.
It will be very hard dislodging UDA nationwide, even in areas close to the mountain, especially if there are too many parties there. Places like Nakuru, Laikipia, Lamu, Embu, Meru, Tharaka Nithi, and Nairobi, where slum dwellers have seen impacts of affordable housing and Ruto's plans to move 7 million slum dwellers to better living conditions. Millions can see Ruto's work while politicians, especially DCP, are busy with kingpinship and tribal politics!

Shairi ndefu kama kawaida.

Ruto did not start national. After YK92 and Kanu rookie he went onto ODM Pentagon as Kalenjin rep. Had a UDM/URP Kalenjin then pastoralist party. He joined TNA as Jubilee and pulled a trojan into UDA... which lost virtually all but RV-Mlima to Azimio.

Ditto Raila. NDP, Kanu trojan into LDP, ODM.

Uhuru never went national.

Riggy is rounding up Gema with G7 crew. That is why he is desperate for Matiang'i to bring Gusii but Uhuru is inadvertently complicating things. Matiang'i will come to his senses - he seems to have at least an average iQ and can see which side his bread is buttered.
Those political formations Ruto, Raila, and Uhuru manoeuvred took them at least 15-20 years to get them to State House, or Raila close to the prime minister position. If you can remember well, Ruto made both Raila and Uhuru reach the apex and not the other way round. Ruto, with Raila and Uhuru in stiff opposition, won big. Gachagua has about 15-20 years to get to the Raila-Uhuru-Ruto level and maybe 10 years to catch Uhuru's political capital. He starts late at age 60, which means he has a very tall order. Ruto is not 60 yet! As an insider, I can tell you for free, you need trillions of shillings and a lethal brain to navigate Kenya's politics, two things Gachagua lack!

Riggy was DO and other things, he did not spend his youth in politics. Losing for him would not be catastrophe. This is more retirement than career.

DCP is 3 months old. If they pull a NARC or Jubilee he can fight to clear his name under friendly regime. I think that's the plan.

Dispense Ruto, clear his name, run in 2032.

The lesson from Uhuru and Kibaki is it is not necessary to go national.
Uhuru and Kibaki went nation by proxy. Kibaki through Raila 'Kibaki tosha' and Uhuru through relentless Ruto campaigning for almost 3 years all over Kenya leading to the URP-TNA merger. For Gachagua to go national the Kibaki/Uhuru way, he needs 'Gachagua Tosha' from two people only in Kenya: either Ruto or Raila. Anything else is pure nonsense! If Ruto were to tosha and campaign for him aggressively, he'd be president in 2027; with Raila, it may take longer, maybe 2032. All he needed was to stay as a loyal deputy, say 'yes sir', and lay low, and he'd have spent less energy politically because he would have inherited RVGEMA to the tune of 95%. He'd only need Ruto's Somali pastoralists in Northeastern and a few of his Bungoma Bukusus to close the deal!

Kibaki and Uhuru formed coalitions - the alternate to going national.

Riggy is rising into the Raila and Ruto rank... he will tosha Kalonzo then kick him in 2032.

Sucking up to Ruto is not the sole path to power.
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