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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2025, 10:16:20 AM »
I believe kalonzo will join gov before end of the year. He knows kikiyus don't want him to head any opposition ticket
I think GEMA sees an opening for the presidency, and because of their numbers, they cannot allow Kalonzo or non-Kikuyu to take the top position. They'd rather give it to Wanjigi, Muhoho, or someone new. If Non-GEMA becomes the torchbearer of opposition, you can expect almost 20-35% to stick with Ruto, courtesy of all the networks he has cultivated over the years. If GEMA gets the top job, Ruto will have an easier time outside Mountain.

Maybe. Obviously noone has appetite for Riggy-type. Thankfully he is barred. 

My own prediction, Riggy, Uhuru-et al will ensnare greedy Raila into a 2022 redux. Scorned Kalonzo will join Ruto.
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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2025, 10:38:50 AM »
This is the first election in Kenya where we have the full participation of a highly educated enlightened demographic, I hate to tell you moron that the amount of money in your coffers or tribe will be secondary. The era of hiring helicopters and gas guzzlers to go lie to peasants is over. The biggest campaign will be online where most GenZs are, if the 15m organize and come out to vote, your tribal warlords will be going home by noon. The person who will be able to capture the imagination of this kids win. What is Ruto or Raila going to tell people? Haven’t they run out lies? Will Ruto be going to churches and lying to people? I agree with the people here saying that Ruto will not even be in the second round, you can convince yourself otherwise for temporary relief but the truth will eventually catch up. I also believe Raila will also be on the contest and and will most likely be second to whoever is supported by the opposition. How much money did GenZ require to have Ruto relinquish power to Raila?

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2025, 12:33:00 PM »
This is the first election in Kenya where we have the full participation of a highly educated enlightened demographic, I hate to tell you moron that the amount of money in your coffers or tribe will be secondary. The era of hiring helicopters and gas guzzlers to go lie to peasants is over. The biggest campaign will be online where most GenZs are, if the 15m organize and come out to vote, your tribal warlords will be going home by noon. The person who will be able to capture the imagination of this kids win. What is Ruto or Raila going to tell people? Haven’t they run out lies? Will Ruto be going to churches and lying to people? I agree with the people here saying that Ruto will not even be in the second round, you can convince yourself otherwise for temporary relief but the truth will eventually catch up. I also believe Raila will also be on the contest and and will most likely be second to whoever is supported by the opposition. How much money did GenZ require to have Ruto relinquish power to Raila?

Wishes and horses. Gen Z are not a new discovery - 3 years ago they were the bulk of Ruto's hustler nation and were going to teach the dynasties a lesson. Before that they were screaming tibim and tialala. 😐

What new vision is Morara Kebaso selling this time?
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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2025, 12:39:15 PM »
F&B i don't buy your prescription of new political revolution for Zamunda. Politicians will always offer miracles to real and imaginary maladies. From Moi must go, to 41 vs 1, to digital vs analog,  bottom up abra cadabra... nothing new.

Seems Morara is your new Messiah?

Well, here we have MAGA to slay the China ogre sijui white genocide. 😢
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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2025, 12:46:16 PM »
I am just reading the beans, I have a very good record of making predictions here that come true. It’s a gift and I thank God for it, it helps me a lot even in my investments especially stocks. Kenya is ripe for change, do not underestimate their thirst for change. The last time I was there, I heard from everyone, not just Kikuyus or family, everywhere I went, people talked about change. They are tired of theft and mediocrity perpetuated by a few but it makes all look like complete idiots who cannot run a successful country, a white supremacy trope.

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2025, 03:19:25 PM »
Gusii reject Raila. Raila must go! The ground has shifted. Old political gimmicks can no longer work. Economic pressure is unbearable. Something will have to give.

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2025, 04:53:56 PM »
Raila get PSes

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2025, 05:29:03 PM »
1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2025, 06:08:15 PM »

Ruto to Run On ODM ? Ruto plans to Inherit Raila supporters with or without Raila .
That Coalition is nothing different that UhuRaila coalition it didnt go anywhere worse is Western and Kisiis have abandoned it
No one is buying Tribal narrative when they are hungry and Jobless , Heard of GenZ or you think it was a Myth.
I never for once supported Gachagua but I can tell you if they dont change the constitution, wherever Mt Kenya will be that will be the winning Coalition .
Ruto Raila coalition has awakened the Kisiis they have been divided because some hate Raila and Some hate Ruto for once they are united by the hate of both Ruto and Raila . Matiangi is a non factor and hates Ruto with passion . He als doesnt have the machinery to run an election.
Ruto and in extension Raila lost their legitimacy when Genz stormed parliament . Something which tribalist like you cannot fathom .
Ruto had to get Military to survive in the shorterm and Raila to finish his term .Both will be shown the door come 2027…..

1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2025, 06:24:02 PM »
1) WSR has to have PLAN A - which is win - with or without ODM. ODM should be Plan B. Plan A is UDA with any coalition (Kalonzo 10% is good enough).

2) Gachagua I doubt will beat  impeachment - so he can only become "prime minister" in any arrangement - Mt Kenya will have to contend with Uhuru/Muhoho - and Merus & Embu - may well go with Kindiki - if he is retain as DP and they see 2032 as their chance.

Raila & ODM coming to UDA has woken up Mt Kenya east on possibility of the thing going if they are not careful.

3) Matiangi (5%) - cannot lead anything - Luhyas getting DPORK will not unite them - coz hapo you're playing 2037. Then you have little matter of losing Kambas in such arrangement to Ruto.

The way I see we have 3 Big camps.
Ruto at 35%
Raila at 35%
Kikuyu (Headless) at 20%

Ruto-Raila makes election a waste of time.
If Ruto loses Raila - he will need Kalonzo.

Raila will only run if Mt kenya backs him

1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2025, 09:43:38 PM »


Ruto will be No 3 ,Even SG for ODM clearly said even if Raila supports Ruto still Ruto will lose .
You people are delusional and playing self deceit . So desperate is Ruto that he is giving Raila half government without a Coalition agreement but a mere MOU .
First thing in the MOU sends him into a referendum which is a trap and if he tries to circumnavigate and use parliament another revolution and unlike Genzs one this one will go into the history of Kenya as a moment where Kenya was finally liberated .

1) WSR has to have PLAN A - which is win - with or without ODM. ODM should be Plan B. Plan A is UDA with any coalition (Kalonzo 10% is good enough).

2) Gachagua I doubt will beat  impeachment - so he can only become "prime minister" in any arrangement - Mt Kenya will have to contend with Uhuru/Muhoho - and Merus & Embu - may well go with Kindiki - if he is retain as DP and they see 2032 as their chance.

Raila & ODM coming to UDA has woken up Mt Kenya east on possibility of the thing going if they are not careful.

3) Matiangi (5%) - cannot lead anything - Luhyas getting DPORK will not unite them - coz hapo you're playing 2037. Then you have little matter of losing Kambas in such arrangement to Ruto.

The way I see we have 3 Big camps.
Ruto at 35%
Raila at 35%
Kikuyu (Headless) at 20%

Ruto-Raila makes election a waste of time.
If Ruto loses Raila - he will need Kalonzo.

Raila will only run if Mt kenya backs him

1) WSR plans to run on an ODM ticket once the merger is complete.

We are slow-marching into an ODM-UDA coalition.  But the clueless opposition is still waiting for Rao to abandon UDA. 

2) This new coalition is slowly shifting the narrative from economics to tribal math - building up an anti Mt Kenya momentum ready for 2027


3) As such, a Gachagua ticket (whether as Prez or running mate) is a sure bet win for wsr in 2027.   Problem for the opposition is that Gachagua's ego is bigger than Mt Kenya itself.  Guy will attempt.

4) Only a Matiang'i - Luhya ticket with Mt Kenya as PM can counter this.  This breaks the western Kenya coalition and rings in the Gen Z/governance votes



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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2025, 03:44:19 AM »
Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2025, 10:50:09 AM »

Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2025, 11:06:04 AM »
I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2025, 11:36:05 AM »

By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2025, 12:18:23 PM »
I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2025, 01:25:41 PM »

You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2025, 02:14:39 PM »
Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2025, 02:25:51 PM »


You were Gachaguas Supporter , I was not but fact remains if he beats Impeachment he will be a force to reckon , If he doesnt whoever he endorses will be a force to reckon . A fact you are trying to belittle .
Same like many Raila supporters belittled Uhuru in 2013 and Ruto in 2022. And Moi supporters belittled Kibaki in 2002
As everyday goes by you sound more and more like ODMers . You will find yourself in the same losing side like they have been since 2007 .
And try to Rig as you were saying Ruto will be in Hague or have you changed your mind about Riging ?


Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2025, 02:56:55 PM »
I predicted Gachagua would be DPORK.
And I foresaw his downfall.

Ruto will only need to rig if Raila runs.

And Ruto will rig if he needs to - and nothing will happen to him - because he has security and million of warriors.

You'll cry like Moi era indoors.



You were Gachaguas Supporter , I was not but fact remains if he beats Impeachment he will be a force to reckon , If he doesnt whoever he endorses will be a force to reckon . A fact you are trying to belittle .
Same like many Raila supporters belittled Uhuru in 2013 and Ruto in 2022. And Moi supporters belittled Kibaki in 2002
As everyday goes by you sound more and more like ODMers . You will find yourself in the same losing side like they have been since 2007 .
And try to Rig as you were saying Ruto will be in Hague or have you changed your mind about Riging ?


Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch