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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2025, 03:11:24 PM »
How will he Rig if he will be No 3 . For him to Rig actually he requires Raila support so as to top up in Raila strongholds as Turn out would have dwindled , However this will send him to Hague coz Rigging in the current constitution and IEBC laws with Media and Social media in action is next to impossible ask Raila 2022 elections , He will find himself in Hague . Military /Security just like 2007 and 2022 will be divided in involvement of Rigging .So called warriors will be the ones taking Ruto to Hague …

I predicted Gachagua would be DPORK.
And I foresaw his downfall.

Ruto will only need to rig if Raila runs.

And Ruto will rig if he needs to - and nothing will happen to him - because he has security and million of warriors.

You'll cry like Moi era indoors.



You were Gachaguas Supporter , I was not but fact remains if he beats Impeachment he will be a force to reckon , If he doesnt whoever he endorses will be a force to reckon . A fact you are trying to belittle .
Same like many Raila supporters belittled Uhuru in 2013 and Ruto in 2022. And Moi supporters belittled Kibaki in 2002
As everyday goes by you sound more and more like ODMers . You will find yourself in the same losing side like they have been since 2007 .
And try to Rig as you were saying Ruto will be in Hague or have you changed your mind about Riging ?


Lots of verbiage.
You wanted to say this.
I am praying that Gachagua will beat impeachment and run and win :) - joke of the century.
If he doesn't win - he will endorse the winner :)

Dude you're running desperate and literally out of your mind.


You predictions since 2017 have been null and void because simple your premises is not tied to facts hence always leading to wrong conclusion.

Trump 2024 is an example
Raila AUC is an example

Now the fact on ground is Ruto is so unpopular due to economy and not only , another fact is he lost Mt Kenya, another fact is substantial number of Raila supporters have refused to board, another fact is part of Western are now excited with Natembeya. Kisii for once are united against Ruto Raila  you call that vote 500k should be approaching 1M come 2027.
You also think by bugging Raila thats the solution to Rutos win . Nop first Raila probabilty of Running is next to One , secondly just like when Uhuru supported Raila , if Raila supports Ruto a big chunk of his support base with be confused and it will result in suppressing voter turnout . You saw in 2022 at 65% from highs of “98%” in 2007. And thats when he stood as a candidate how about when is is just supporting .

I would tell you for free , its advantageous for Ruto to know his opponents earlier in that he can politically deal with them . He doesnt know if Raila is running or not , He doesnt know the No 1 contender thats why he is still so unpopular . This is a 2013 scenario and how Raila was beaten , they didnt know who they would be vying against they thought Not another Mt Kenya Candidate , Not guys in ICC boggled down by cases and constitution was on their side . So they went after Kalonzo he became watermelon and another Kibaki , a Judas Iscariot , a Moi student . So delusional they were like you that the celebrated when Ruto and Uhuru were forcefully resigned from Cabinet .
Mudavadi who was closest to them was tricked as he saw the gap to run thus further dividing ODM , same thing is happening albeit in different scenario . Then the courts came to UhuRutos aid they ruled  in  their favor , then elections were postponed from Dec 2012 to Dec 2013 , Raila couldnt counter the wave of the excitement , even with IEBC and Courts in their side they were beat hands down.

A replica is happening , once the courts decide about NADCA / Referendum and Gachaguas impeachment is anulled at the 11 hour the excitement /aura  that will be there will be so big akin to 2013 /2002 , even if its the opposite NADCA is taken to referendum Ruto will be exposed , they try pushing it through the parliament and the courts stay out that will be a revolution hands down . If Gachaguas impeachment is stayed he anoints a presidential candidate who will win there after.

Its a Zerosum for Ruto he is out whatever he tries , however having witnessed how he took his losses in 2002 Moi project election which he is accused of misleading Moi and 2010 Referendum and 2021 BBI loss in Counties and Parliament , he is always gracious and regroups , he will exit peacefully and embark on 2032 journey .

However if the likes of you convice him to rig and take the violence route , he will be back to Hague and will be jailed this time around as his case is still open . When you see Martha Karua warning him means they are  just waiting for the right time .

All said and done 2027 is pivotal in Kenyas history , It will be a first time President is not being re-elected or first time immediate former president is locked up in Hague as he awaits his case to proceed . You will retire from Nipate




I make logical prediction supported by sound thinking.
I don't engage in Vodoo.
If I get wrong - no problem.
I still get marks for the soundness of my thinking.

It simple - you don't have candidate - and you're hoping a kikuyu candidate will emerge from somewhere and win.

Keep praying.



By 2023 We knew Ruto is not coming Back in 2027.
Let them Raila and Ruto run independently or together still they will lose.
Pundit you are so delusional when we were saying that Raila wont win AUC you were saying its a done deal.
When Im telling you Ruto will be No 3 you start getting angry .
Listen carefully Ruto will be No 3 and finally after 2027 elections you will retire from Nipate.
Ruto has only been making mistake after mistake . He has reached a place he cant recover .
As we speak how will he ensure NADCO comes to force ? Thats a very big trap either referendum or revolution and remember there are courts . And if he tries rigging Ruto will find himself in Hague where his case is still open . ODM are trapping him with the tribal and rigging narrative .Rutos option like Uhuru had is to concede immediately and fight for another day .

I knew as early as 2008 that Uhuru-Ruto would be the thing.
As for now, you are clueless, and have no candidate.
Because face it - it either R or R - and you now hate both.

Anyway tuko hapa papa tu.


Hasira ya Nini, Why are you so angry , its a bad time being Ruto supporter.
In 2013 not many knew who the top contender against Raila would be.
Many thought with ICC cases Uhuru and Ruto would not be eligible.
Kalonzo alikuwa ananyemelea and he thought he was the one , some thought Wamalwa , Mudavadi was fronted as some thought another Mt Kenya candidate wouldnt sell .Then came the Mademoni moment where Uhuru gave Mudavadi the chance.
It took the last 3 months to know who the No 1 contender will be who later became President Uhuru.
We can go on and on on this ……..
Ruto giving PS to Raila is a form of desperation to survive until 2027 , Will it change anything certainly No . Raila was given the Kenyan Govt machinery but still lost 2022 elections.

Nowayaha, who will be no 1 mad man. Ruto gave Raila 10 pses. Half were expanded department...from 51 to 56. That is for ODM to support his political agenda and allow development to go on. Odm is eating wamunyoro lunch

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2025, 04:20:05 PM »
No 3 is your own madness.
Ruto has strong national support.
Incumbent running for election is VERY HARD to remove.
Even silly Kibaki who was hiding in statehouse was hard.
How will he Rig if he will be No 3 . For him to Rig actually he requires Raila support so as to top up in Raila strongholds as Turn out would have dwindled , However this will send him to Hague coz Rigging in the current constitution and IEBC laws with Media and Social media in action is next to impossible ask Raila 2022 elections , He will find himself in Hague . Military /Security just like 2007 and 2022 will be divided in involvement of Rigging .So called warriors will be the ones taking Ruto to Hague …

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2025, 04:22:53 PM »
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….

No 3 is your own madness.
Ruto has strong national support.
Incumbent running for election is VERY HARD to remove.
Even silly Kibaki who was hiding in statehouse was hard.
How will he Rig if he will be No 3 . For him to Rig actually he requires Raila support so as to top up in Raila strongholds as Turn out would have dwindled , However this will send him to Hague coz Rigging in the current constitution and IEBC laws with Media and Social media in action is next to impossible ask Raila 2022 elections , He will find himself in Hague . Military /Security just like 2007 and 2022 will be divided in involvement of Rigging .So called warriors will be the ones taking Ruto to Hague …

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2025, 05:14:52 PM »
Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2025, 05:27:20 PM »


Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2025, 06:48:32 AM »


Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2025, 10:39:08 AM »

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« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2025, 11:39:32 AM »

Gachagua saved the My Kenya PSs and Gachagua saved  Martha Koome and by extension Supreme Court Judges .
Single handedly you may say without so called elected MPs .
This goes to tell you one thing . Ruto has started listening to NIS . Ofcourse he cant listen to anyone even the MPs are adviced by Ruto and not the otherway around. However its too late .
After the Mt Kenya trip he might as well go after them . Especially Supreme Court there is bad blood between them , I dont forsee any Court case sponsored by Ruto going through …..

Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2025, 12:01:07 PM »
As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2025, 02:12:32 PM »
Well narrative of luos replacing kikuyus is what stopped them. Ruto has no problem with supreme court.
Gachagua saved the My Kenya PSs and Gachagua saved  Martha Koome and by extension Supreme Court Judges .
Single handedly you may say without so called elected MPs .
This goes to tell you one thing . Ruto has started listening to NIS . Ofcourse he cant listen to anyone even the MPs are adviced by Ruto and not the otherway around. However its too late .
After the Mt Kenya trip he might as well go after them . Especially Supreme Court there is bad blood between them , I dont forsee any Court case sponsored by Ruto going through …..

Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story

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« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2025, 02:13:53 PM »
Kibaki had run and come very close in 1997 - 3rd in 1992.
Uhuru had run and score 33% in 2002.
Ruto had overseen 33% No referendum - won 3 elections with Uhuru.

None of these jokers have anything of that experience to threaten Ruto

As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2025, 02:53:38 PM »
And Gachagua was the sole voice agitating for their survival
Ruto wants to do away with Supreme Court .



Well narrative of luos replacing kikuyus is what stopped them. Ruto has no problem with supreme court.
Gachagua saved the My Kenya PSs and Gachagua saved  Martha Koome and by extension Supreme Court Judges .
Single handedly you may say without so called elected MPs .
This goes to tell you one thing . Ruto has started listening to NIS . Ofcourse he cant listen to anyone even the MPs are adviced by Ruto and not the otherway around. However its too late .
After the Mt Kenya trip he might as well go after them . Especially Supreme Court there is bad blood between them , I dont forsee any Court case sponsored by Ruto going through …..

Ruto decided not axe Riggy PS - at least at one go
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/gachagua-hand-in-saving-mt-kenya-css-pss-from-being-fired--4974528#story

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2025, 03:08:07 PM »

Nothing in 90s was credible , Chesoni in 92 as Electoral commission head was Mois stooge He aided Moi in Rigging Matiba , Moi Rigged Kibaki in 97 you gave a testimony how you were involved from your village .
2002 was unriggable due to difference between winner and looser .
So you cant compare 90s election with current , Ruto will be No 3 at that position you cant rig , reason he wants Railas support to have a margin of rigging . It wont work with current electral laws , media , social media and the new constitution . If he tries direct express to Hague . Already evidence is being taken .

Kibaki had run and come very close in 1997 - 3rd in 1992.
Uhuru had run and score 33% in 2002.
Ruto had overseen 33% No referendum - won 3 elections with Uhuru.

None of these jokers have anything of that experience to threaten Ruto

As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus

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Re: ODM - UDA/KK Coalition unveiling
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2025, 09:50:54 AM »
2002 was simple good kikuyu v bad kikuyu elections.
The stakes were not high.
Ruto will do whatever it takes to win.
You take as much evidence to ICC mapema.


Nothing in 90s was credible , Chesoni in 92 as Electoral commission head was Mois stooge He aided Moi in Rigging Matiba , Moi Rigged Kibaki in 97 you gave a testimony how you were involved from your village .
2002 was unriggable due to difference between winner and looser .
So you cant compare 90s election with current , Ruto will be No 3 at that position you cant rig , reason he wants Railas support to have a margin of rigging . It wont work with current electral laws , media , social media and the new constitution . If he tries direct express to Hague . Already evidence is being taken .

Kibaki had run and come very close in 1997 - 3rd in 1992.
Uhuru had run and score 33% in 2002.
Ruto had overseen 33% No referendum - won 3 elections with Uhuru.

None of these jokers have anything of that experience to threaten Ruto

As was Kibaki when he took on head to head Mois Project and KANU in 2002
So was Uhuru when he took on Raila in 2013
So was Ruto when he took on Raila with Govt Machinery in 2022.



Remember conversation with Robina on elected MPs , When all Kenyan MPs including senators voted for BBI when Ruto was against coz it would have finished his chances of 2022 elections.
You and I were on the same side saying majority of sitting MPs their voice dont matter coz they are out of touch with ground and wont make back to parliament . How time changes now you are parroting like ODMers .
Pundit its evident you know Ruto will be No 3 , Continue thinking Ruto is popular in Kenya , Even in Kalenjin land a substantial Number are against his policies and tactics .

Ruto is running alone.
Once you bring forth candidates.
He will look very good.
Wamunyoro is one who has zero national support.
Impeached by 300mps and 55 senators.
If Kalenjin is what you call strong national support Im done with you ….
Ruto is the most unpopular Kenyan President ….. No one in Kenya wants to hear of him and his promises ….
Wamunyoro is sick joke. Kalonzo too. Matiangi is terrible neophyte. Only Raila can threaten Ruto. That should be Ruto focus