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Ruto advisors think this is Moi error , Muturis mistake ati was because he didnt proceed to read Rutos condolence message in Embu. So they decided he is not influential enough and want to replace him with Kiraitu.
I remember back in 2017 Matiangi also faced similar backlash in Kissii instead Uhuru elevated him to Prime Minister .
Ruto has forgiven Raila and Uhuru and gave them half of the Cabinet . Whats his beef with Muturi.
Eventaully Raila and Uhuru will betray him come 2027.
If i was to advice him would tell him amend realtionship with Muturi forgive him let him serve until 2027 the way Keter Rutos ally did back in Uhurus second term if he fires him Embu will hate him and even Meru will join in No Kiraitu or Kindiki can save him
Some guys are just dumb advisors

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2025, 11:58:53 AM »
The mlevi betrayed Ruto trust by linking him and NIS to abduction.
How do you stay in cabinet after saying you went to Ruto and he made phone calls - and your son was released.
Ruto would be admitting that he was abductor in chief.
He is gone.

Muturi with his few Mbeere votes is nothing - he has not won any elective seats since 2002.

Ruto has options - Mt Kenya East is Plan C - going to Plan D.

Ruto should focus on swiping NEP, Coast, Kamatusa, Luhyas - that should get him 50%.

Luos will add 10% to make it 60%.

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2025, 12:17:16 PM »

Typical Moi error advisor . Same mistake he did with Gachagua . Muturi Rutos accusation is a crying call . Raila and Uhuru did worse and ran against Ruto but he forgave them and gave them half the cabinet.

Similar mistakes Raila did with Ruto in 2008 and Mudavadi Weta in 2022.
This is where pragmatism comes in , a Pragmatic Ruto  would have to make amends with Muturi ask Muturi to go out there and say it was all politics as he felt he was being fought but he has forgiven the advisors .
Uhuru  during his was with Ruto never dared touch any CS affiliated with  or Ruto himself .
The backlash he will get will not even be about Embu who you now call Mbeere it will villify Mt Kenya and strengthen them remember only 60 % voted last time this time around it will be 95%
Dumb Moi error advisors no wonder Ruto will be No 3 come 2027

The mlevi betrayed Ruto trust by linking him and NIS to abduction.
How do you stay in cabinet after saying you went to Ruto and he made phone calls - and your son was released.
Ruto would be admitting that he was abductor in chief.
He is gone.

Muturi with his few Mbeere votes is nothing - he has not won any elective seats since 2002.

Ruto has options - Mt Kenya East is Plan C - going to Plan D.

Ruto should focus on swiping NEP, Coast, Kamatusa, Luhyas - that should get him 50%.

Luos will add 10% to make it 60%.

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2025, 03:14:14 PM »
Which part of Mt kenya is not part of Ruto strategy anymore dont you get?
Ruto has moved on - move on too.

Instead of wasting such a critical position on Mbeeres and Embus.
Take it somewhere else...where Ruto will be appreciated....give it to Samburus or Itesos or Taitas - even Boranas.
Given how Luos are receptive...add it to Jaluos.

Kalenjin yote we have 2 CS - and we are not crying - you bloody morons have 8 CS - and many big players - and still crying!!
Pokot deserve a CS

Moi managed to rule with only token Kamotho.

We cannot be threaten by 17% (and reducing by now 15%) of Kikuyus - kalenjin ar 14% - You are threatening who? We increase turnout kidogo to 95% and we cancel kikuyu vote

Or 0.5% Mbeere-Embu? Let them go too.

Meru is one we are watching - they can go too!!

Ruto has bigger vote base in Anti-Gema alliance in Kenya. Hapo ni clear win. 20% versus 80%.


Typical Moi error advisor . Same mistake he did with Gachagua . Muturi Rutos accusation is a crying call . Raila and Uhuru did worse and ran against Ruto but he forgave them and gave them half the cabinet.

Similar mistakes Raila did with Ruto in 2008 and Mudavadi Weta in 2022.
This is where pragmatism comes in , a Pragmatic Ruto  would have to make amends with Muturi ask Muturi to go out there and say it was all politics as he felt he was being fought but he has forgiven the advisors .
Uhuru  during his was with Ruto never dared touch any CS affiliated with  or Ruto himself .
The backlash he will get will not even be about Embu who you now call Mbeere it will villify Mt Kenya and strengthen them remember only 60 % voted last time this time around it will be 95%
Dumb Moi error advisors no wonder Ruto will be No 3 come 2027

The mlevi betrayed Ruto trust by linking him and NIS to abduction.
How do you stay in cabinet after saying you went to Ruto and he made phone calls - and your son was released.
Ruto would be admitting that he was abductor in chief.
He is gone.

Muturi with his few Mbeere votes is nothing - he has not won any elective seats since 2002.

Ruto has options - Mt Kenya East is Plan C - going to Plan D.

Ruto should focus on swiping NEP, Coast, Kamatusa, Luhyas - that should get him 50%.

Luos will add 10% to make it 60%.

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2025, 07:44:42 PM »
I hear RiggyG has shared messages btw Muturi n president. Ruto is playing silly games with fools. Fools you deal with them at their level . Mzungu did corporal punishment

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2025, 07:56:35 PM »
Moi error advice . Moi lost both 92 and 97 elections and rigged them , then it was about simple majority now we have a new constituion and as proved in 2013, 2017 and 2022 elections rigging is next to impossible .
Its plain stupid to break away the coalition which put you in power . Uhuru showed how to rule 2 terms consolidate you voting basket which he did by making Ruto happy then second term include opposition to alienate your partner who would have wanted to loot .
Uhuru looks like a genius where as Ruto now is facing defeat in 2027 having shared half of his cabinet with Uhuru and Raila .

Now as you can see Gachagua is already consolidating Mt Kenya , now you are advising Ruto to drop Kindiki that will be his political end . If he tries that most probably there will be no need of election in 2027 . Even the No 3 we are giving him would be a dodo forgone .

Keep on dreaming with Anti Gema coalition . Goodluck in thinking you can create one in this woke century . Nowonder you still thought Biden would win ……


Which part of Mt kenya is not part of Ruto strategy anymore dont you get?
Ruto has moved on - move on too.

Instead of wasting such a critical position on Mbeeres and Embus.
Take it somewhere else...where Ruto will be appreciated....give it to Samburus or Itesos or Taitas - even Boranas.
Given how Luos are receptive...add it to Jaluos.

Kalenjin yote we have 2 CS - and we are not crying - you bloody morons have 8 CS - and many big players - and still crying!!
Pokot deserve a CS

Moi managed to rule with only token Kamotho.

We cannot be threaten by 17% (and reducing by now 15%) of Kikuyus - kalenjin ar 14% - You are threatening who? We increase turnout kidogo to 95% and we cancel kikuyu vote

Or 0.5% Mbeere-Embu? Let them go too.

Meru is one we are watching - they can go too!!

Ruto has bigger vote base in Anti-Gema alliance in Kenya. Hapo ni clear win. 20% versus 80%.


Typical Moi error advisor . Same mistake he did with Gachagua . Muturi Rutos accusation is a crying call . Raila and Uhuru did worse and ran against Ruto but he forgave them and gave them half the cabinet.

Similar mistakes Raila did with Ruto in 2008 and Mudavadi Weta in 2022.
This is where pragmatism comes in , a Pragmatic Ruto  would have to make amends with Muturi ask Muturi to go out there and say it was all politics as he felt he was being fought but he has forgiven the advisors .
Uhuru  during his was with Ruto never dared touch any CS affiliated with  or Ruto himself .
The backlash he will get will not even be about Embu who you now call Mbeere it will villify Mt Kenya and strengthen them remember only 60 % voted last time this time around it will be 95%
Dumb Moi error advisors no wonder Ruto will be No 3 come 2027

The mlevi betrayed Ruto trust by linking him and NIS to abduction.
How do you stay in cabinet after saying you went to Ruto and he made phone calls - and your son was released.
Ruto would be admitting that he was abductor in chief.
He is gone.

Muturi with his few Mbeere votes is nothing - he has not won any elective seats since 2002.

Ruto has options - Mt Kenya East is Plan C - going to Plan D.

Ruto should focus on swiping NEP, Coast, Kamatusa, Luhyas - that should get him 50%.

Luos will add 10% to make it 60%.

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2025, 07:59:07 PM »
https://www.citizen.digital/news/ruto-wrote-abusive-messages-to-muturi-after-funeral-heckling-gachagua-claims-n356371


Former Deputy President Rigathi Gachagua has unleashed a new offensive on President William Ruto for allegedly harassing Public Service CS Justin Muturi over his new defiance towards his regime.
Speaking on a TikTok live session on Thursday, Gachagua pointed out a widespread disaffection towards President Ruto's administration due to his unpopular policies and 'betrayal' of the mountain.

He referenced the incident at the burial of Eric Mutugi, son of former Embu Senator Lenny Kivuti when the mourners shouted CS Muturi as he prepared to read Ruto's condolence message.

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Gachagua claimed that Ruto wrote condescending messages to the CS following the incident, accusing him of inciting the people.

"It is unnecessary to harass Muturi. They're saying that he's the one who organised people to reject Ruto's condolence message. That is not true, CS Muturi was abused by the president," Gachagua said.

"He wrote very offensive messages, accusing him of inciting people. That is unfair to the CS. It is the people of the mountain who rejected because of betrayal and deception," he added.


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Muturi has been making headlines in the past weeks after he questioned some of the government's actions regarding abductions.

The bold move drew criticism from Ruto's henchmen who have since launched an attack on the CS, calling on him to resign.

During the live session, Gachagua pointed out that the mountain would remain united against the Kenya Kwanza regime.

He warned the Western region not to fall prey to his 'charms' like the mountain during the campaign period.

"I want to tell Western Kenya to be careful. The president was here for five years and that's how he convinced us to vote for him so learn from us. Now he doesn't come here because we know that he cheated and conned us," he noted.

The former DP also elucidated on the recent meetings held at his Wamunyoro home, noting that he is collecting views to chart his way forward.

He, however, reaffirmed that holding meetings with political leaders did not amount to an endorsement.

"I said I would consult extensively since I believe in people-centered decisions. I thought by Jan 31st, I would have a good report to give to the people and it is quite challenging because of the number of views that are coming in," he pointed out.

"My meeting with people is not a form of endorsement. Let the people decide. Others may want to be seen with me so that it can improve their political fortunes, there's nothing wrong with that but I have opened my doors to everybody. "

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Re: Ruto misguided about Muturi- You forgave Raila and Uhuru Forgive Muturi
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2025, 11:39:33 PM »
Muturi gone.  You cry us river about Ruto becoming 4th as if you mother own Kenya.2027 you'll cry n run to your mother.