US told kibaki he never won

[RV Pundit]

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Its was obvious Raila won 2007 unless youre a moron

[Kadudu]

Martha is being insincere. She knows very well she and Mathaura presided over election theft.

[Nefertiti]

What did Miguna say about this in Peeling Back the Mask?

[Kadudu]

Miguna² is a gun for hire. What he says today is not valid tomorrow. He is the most overrated mdogo kubwa inKenya's history.

What did Miguna say about this in Peeling Back the Mask?

[Nefertiti]

With 0 EQ he tends to be brutally honest on such matters. He must have mentioned it his book.

Miguna² is a gun for hire. What he says today is not valid tomorrow. He is the most overrated mdogo kubwa inKenya's history.

What did Miguna say about this in Peeling Back the Mask?

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

What Kibakis, Muthauras, Marthas, and Kivuitus did in 2007 was asenine. They tainted Kenya and made thousands of Kenyans die, evicted, burned alive, and sustain deep panga cuts just for them to have power. May all suffer eternally. Sad that Kivuitu, on his last day, a few hours before death, admitted they rigged and asked for mercy!

According to election observers, ballot boxes were stuffed by both sides. In one constituency, Mr Odinga won 100.5 per cent of valid votes. In Maragwa, a constituency with near-total support for Mr Kibaki, turnout was 115 per cent.

When the result was queried the returning officer was allowed to reduce the turnout to a more acceptable figure. Under Kenyan election law votes from that constituency should have been excluded.

Observers also reported that counts were changed by returning officers in local polling centres, as well as staff at the National Electoral Commission in Nairobi, largely to favour the incumbent bidding for re-election. Koki Muli, a senior Kenyan observer, said: "They added 5,000, 10,000, 15,000 – whatever they wanted. It was bizarre. We had results which were quite outrageous."

In some constituencies the total announced for Mr Kibaki at electoral headquarters in Nairobi was higher than that announced at regional tallying centres in the presence of foreign observers. An additional 25,116 votes were added in Molo and 17,677 in Kieni. In North Imenti, Mr Kibaki won 78,684 votes, but official ECK results gave him an extra 5,324. In a handful of constituencies where Mr Odinga was strong, the results were reduced by election commission officials in Nairobi. In Changamwe, Mr Odinga won 28,340 votes to Mr Kibaki's 14,813. However, the official result announced at the election headquarters put Mr Odinga on 17,706 and Mr Kibaki on 9,366, reducing Mr Odinga's lead by 5,187.

Mr Odinga had been leading by more than one million votes after the first day of counting following the 27 December ballot, but after days two and three the gap narrowed as results came in from constituencies where Mr Kibaki's support was strong. Mr Kibaki was declared the winner amid scenes of chaos on 30 December, although later the head of the electoral commission said he had been pressured by members of the ruling Party of National Unity (PNU) and could not be sure who had won.

[RV Pundit]

Kibaki n his henchmen got away with no consequence

[Fairandbalanced]

Let’s all let the guy rest in peace. He saved Kenya economically and politically. I believe if Raila had won the election that year legally or illegally, Kenya would have burned to ashes. If I can remember very well, Luos were threatening to occupy all kikuyu property, up to this day, there are properties still occupied that were seized after that election. The temperatures were too high and the bloodshed would have made what happened though tragic look like child play. I am not for rigging elections and I know that’s where we are headed, I do not want to see Kenya burn but we have a very dangerous deeply unpopular failure as president who has a very high regard for himself. I think he is going to rig 2027 and if he smells loss, he is going to burn the country. Let’s leave Kibaki alone, Moi got away with genocide and economic catastrophe, let’s concentrate on the disaster in power right now.

[Nefertiti]

RV Pundit is on a campaign against the Kikuyu. Hence the focus on Kibaki et al. Naturally he ignores the role of Ruto, Kosgey and Kalenjin savages in the PEV.

[Nefertiti]

According to Miguna Miguna, Moi rigged the elections in 1988, 1992, 1997. I wonder why RV Pundit wants to chereypick history.

[mankind]

  Numbers don't lie. Raila lost in 2007 period. A careful look at all the data shows clearly that there was rigging on both sides but Odm was dealt a blow by Kalonzo bailing out. We had this discussion with data and kinda settled it. I still have the spreadsheets for all the constituencies if RV wants to revisit.

 It's very easy to claim rigging in Kenya because folks are generally lazy to go through details. You saw the same thing with the finance bill. I looked through it and after costing a few contentious issues I came to the conclusion the bill wasn't as bad as it was made to look. Mbadi himself has said that several times. So unless we stop being lazy and sensationalists let's try to at least stick to facts.

[RV Pundit]

RV Pundit is on a campaign against the Kikuyu. Hence the focus on Kibaki et al. Naturally he ignores the role of Ruto, Kosgey and Kalenjin savages in the PEV.

just reacting to Martha story book

[RV Pundit]

  Numbers don't lie. Raila lost in 2007 period. A careful look at all the data shows clearly that there was rigging on both sides but Odm was dealt a blow by Kalonzo bailing out. We had this discussion with data and kinda settled it. I still have the spreadsheets for all the constituencies if RV wants to revisit.

 It's very easy to claim rigging in Kenya because folks are generally lazy to go through details. You saw the same thing with the finance bill. I looked through it and after costing a few contentious issues I came to the conclusion the bill wasn't as bad as it was made to look. Mbadi himself has said that several times. So unless we stop being lazy and sensationalists let's try to at least stick to facts.

pnu withheld results of strongholds n padded it. Odm won referendum by 56%.or 58%...kalomzo took 8% off

[Njuri Ncheke]

RV Pundit is on a campaign against the Kikuyu. Hence the focus on Kibaki et al. Naturally he ignores the role of Ruto, Kosgey and Kalenjin savages in the PEV.

just reacting to Martha story book

Clearly Pundit hates Kikuyus but with Kikuyus self destructing he will be popping popcorns.

[RV Pundit]

I have the self-entitlement of kikuyu elite -sina shida na wanjiku wa ground.

Clearly Pundit hates Kikuyus but with Kikuyus self destructing he will be popping popcorns.

[Kadudu]

That is one thing Kikuyus never want to address. It is as if without Kikuyus Kenya cannot exist.

That is the same mentality that drove Kibaki to steal the election knowing very well he would be sacrificing his own people in RV. Kibaki and the Kikuyu elite knew the consequences of stealing the election, but they were ready to sacrifice Kikuyu peasants in RV.

Kenya today is in political and economic dire straits due to the stolen election of 2007. Uhuru would never have become president in 2013 without the 2007 PEV. Most likely Ruto would also not be president today. With Uhuru came the open looting of state coffers which continues to date under Ruto.

I have the self-entitlement of kikuyu elite -sina shida na wanjiku wa ground.

Clearly Pundit hates Kikuyus but with Kikuyus self destructing he will be popping popcorns.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Baba won 2007.   But if you are gaslit, you can entertain all sorts of questions about it.

[gout]

Entitlement is a vague word. If a few Pokots have kept Kenyan governments awake since 1900, how, where can you write off Kikuyus? 

Just like Nyeuthi in Amerika are finding out with Trump 2.0, crying sijui White Privilege and BLM won't replace the hard work of creating dependable networks and having not just hollow poets like Obama and fence post Kamala.

The Kikuyu elite will defend their lunch day and night and take the high horse any day. It is upon the likes of Mois, Rutos, Railas to prove they can do a better job for their lot.

That is one thing Kikuyus never want to address. It is as if without Kikuyus Kenya cannot exist.

That is the same mentality that drove Kibaki to steal the election knowing very well he would be sacrificing his own people in RV. Kibaki and the Kikuyu elite knew the consequences of stealing the election, but they were ready to sacrifice Kikuyu peasants in RV.

Kenya today is in political and economic dire straits due to the stolen election of 2007. Uhuru would never have become president in 2013 without the 2007 PEV. Most likely Ruto would also not be president today. With Uhuru came the open looting of state coffers which continues to date under Ruto.

I have the self-entitlement of kikuyu elite -sina shida na wanjiku wa ground.

Clearly Pundit hates Kikuyus but with Kikuyus self destructing he will be popping popcorns.

[RV Pundit]

You dont mean replace self entitled elite with another self entitled elite like Moi did.
Ruto job is to ensure we have national elite.
Moi tried.
Ruto should finish it.
Every community should have fair chance.
And that mean splitting the pie.
Until El Molo become something.

Ruto has political job to build national consenus
Ndii has the economic job to bring poor.

Kikuyu and Luo poor all live in Kibera slums.

Ruto having fallen off with kikuyu has chance to fix kikuyu insular politics - best exemplified and dramatized by PiggyG

Entitlement is a vague word. If a few Pokots have kept Kenyan governments awake since 1900, how, where can you write off Kikuyus? 

Just like Nyeuthi in Amerika are finding out with Trump 2.0, crying sijui White Privilege and BLM won't replace the hard work of creating dependable networks and having not just hollow poets like Obama and fence post Kamala.

The Kikuyu elite will defend their lunch day and night and take the high horse any day. It is upon the likes of Mois, Rutos, Railas to prove they can do a better job for their lot.

That is one thing Kikuyus never want to address. It is as if without Kikuyus Kenya cannot exist.

That is the same mentality that drove Kibaki to steal the election knowing very well he would be sacrificing his own people in RV. Kibaki and the Kikuyu elite knew the consequences of stealing the election, but they were ready to sacrifice Kikuyu peasants in RV.

Kenya today is in political and economic dire straits due to the stolen election of 2007. Uhuru would never have become president in 2013 without the 2007 PEV. Most likely Ruto would also not be president today. With Uhuru came the open looting of state coffers which continues to date under Ruto.

I have the self-entitlement of kikuyu elite -sina shida na wanjiku wa ground.

Clearly Pundit hates Kikuyus but with Kikuyus self destructing he will be popping popcorns.

[Nowayhaha]

Raila was US horse in 2007 elections , simply because Kibaki had turned to China.
Similarly Raila was US horse in 2013 elections thats why they told us thats Choices have Consequences .
Ruto who was in Railas team and chief defender acknowledged that Kibaki won .

Its was obvious Raila won 2007 unless youre a moron