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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2024, 07:12:28 PM »
Upuzi , fact is Kalenjin wre nilotes more closer to Luos …….

Yet the Bantus have attempted to genocide them - right now they are trying to exterminate the Banyamulenge.

Tutsi/Hima are kalenjin as shown by DNA - and both groups need to realize this - and form alliance against more genocide - from the bantus of central africa.

Upuzi, kalenjins are Nilotes the rest are Bantu…….

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2024, 07:19:18 PM »
Kalenjin and Luos are not anywhere close. Modern day Luo is half Bantu. Half Dinka. Luo-Luhya are closer to each other.

Kalenjin and Maasai are very close - to be one tribe - DNA wise - if not for language difference.

Although Maasai linguistically is close to Iteso/Turkana/Karamoja.

Kalenjin were one tribe with Luos/Maa waaaaaaay back in Sudan - kitu 3000yrs or more ago.

Kalenjin left and joined Southern Cushites in Ethiopia highlands - then came to Kenya.

They stayed with cushites for centuries - until early Bantus and Eastern Nilotes came 2,000yrs ago.

Luos came to kenya 500yrs ago.

Kalenjin and Maa pretty much lived together, intermarried, intermixed - etc - for those 2,000 centuries. Pokot and northern Kalenjin intermixed with Turkana group.

Kalenjin are closer to Tanzania Datooga. Hima/Tutsi broke away from Kalenjin of Tanzania and entered Bantu land.

But if you know PRIMARY level History you'll not know anything


Upuzi , fact is Kalenjin wre nilotes more closer to Luos …….

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2024, 08:00:45 PM »
Im talking about facts Pundit not fake ass MOAS .
As a Kikuyu I can understand 60% Tutsi . I understand 0 %  Kalenjin
Facts are stubborn and you try to create your own facts


Kalenjin and Luos are not anywhere close. Modern day Luo is half Bantu. Half Dinka. Luo-Luhya are closer to each other.

Kalenjin and Maasai are very close - to be one tribe - DNA wise - if not for language difference.

Although Maasai linguistically is close to Iteso/Turkana/Karamoja.

Kalenjin were one tribe with Luos/Maa waaaaaaay back in Sudan - kitu 3000yrs or more ago.

Kalenjin left and joined Southern Cushites in Ethiopia highlands - then came to Kenya.

They stayed with cushites for centuries - until early Bantus and Eastern Nilotes came 2,000yrs ago.

Luos came to kenya 500yrs ago.

Kalenjin and Maa pretty much lived together, intermarried, intermixed - etc - for those 2,000 centuries. Pokot and northern Kalenjin intermixed with Turkana group.

Kalenjin are closer to Tanzania Datooga. Hima/Tutsi broke away from Kalenjin of Tanzania and entered Bantu land.

But if you know PRIMARY level History you'll not know anything


Upuzi , fact is Kalenjin wre nilotes more closer to Luos …….

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2024, 08:43:25 PM »
Im talking about facts Pundit not fake ass MOAS .
As a Kikuyu I can understand 60% Tutsi . I understand 0 %  Kalenjin
Facts are stubborn and you try to create your own facts


Kalenjin and Luos are not anywhere close. Modern day Luo is half Bantu. Half Dinka. Luo-Luhya are closer to each other.

Kalenjin and Maasai are very close - to be one tribe - DNA wise - if not for language difference.

Although Maasai linguistically is close to Iteso/Turkana/Karamoja.

Kalenjin were one tribe with Luos/Maa waaaaaaay back in Sudan - kitu 3000yrs or more ago.

Kalenjin left and joined Southern Cushites in Ethiopia highlands - then came to Kenya.

They stayed with cushites for centuries - until early Bantus and Eastern Nilotes came 2,000yrs ago.

Luos came to kenya 500yrs ago.

Kalenjin and Maa pretty much lived together, intermarried, intermixed - etc - for those 2,000 centuries. Pokot and northern Kalenjin intermixed with Turkana group.

Kalenjin are closer to Tanzania Datooga. Hima/Tutsi broke away from Kalenjin of Tanzania and entered Bantu land.

But if you know PRIMARY level History you'll not know anything


Upuzi , fact is Kalenjin wre nilotes more closer to Luos …….
Tutsi speak Bantus language but are not Bantus. Are swahili speakers bantu

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2024, 05:33:12 PM »
Yet the Bantus have attempted to genocide them - right now they are trying to exterminate the Banyamulenge.

Tutsi/Hima are kalenjin as shown by DNA - and both groups need to realize this - and form alliance against more genocide - from the bantus of central africa.

Upuzi, kalenjins are Nilotes the rest are Bantu…….
Okay without any further adue place kalenjin and tutsi dna here we compare with that of Hutus and baganda

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2024, 10:32:36 PM »
https://vahaduo.github.io/g25views/#Africa3  go to that site... Tutsi..Ogiek..sengwer are closest..n maa...datooga..n some Kikuyu

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2024, 10:38:45 PM »
If you know basic dna

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2024, 06:30:56 AM »
If you know basic dna
This is a blog anyone can say anything.
I say Merus are 45 percent bantu 35 percent nilotic and rest cushitic
All kabilas especially in east africa are very mixed
I didnt see kalenjin dna atleast
I will conduct my own research
And please use reliable sites not blogs.

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2024, 07:28:01 AM »
Tutsi n Hima expanded from kalenjin central Tanzania towards Highlands of Rwanda n slowly assimilated into Hutus/Bairu

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2024, 10:01:18 AM »
Evidence that Pundit is nuts . Tutsi are Bantu . Kalenjin are Nilotes . These are mere facts

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2024, 10:08:43 AM »
Only a nut case would this that Tutsi are Bantus.
Evidence that Pundit is nuts . Tutsi are Bantu . Kalenjin are Nilotes . These are mere facts

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2024, 10:16:39 AM »
Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 

Only a nut case would this Tutsi are Bantus.
Evidence that Pundit is nuts . Tutsi are Bantu . Kalenjin are Nilotes . These are mere facts

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2024, 11:08:48 AM »
The only fact you have is language  - they speak Bantu language.
There are many people who lose their language.
The other facts dont support you.
Starting with Phenotype, Genotype, Culture, etc.
DNA is conclusive test in modern era to know someone ancestry.

That is most incontrovertible fact.

Tutsi DNA has been tested and they are Kalenjin or Maa in ancestry.

Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2024, 11:26:46 AM »
The evidence is very clear - that Tutsi/Hima - are Kalenjin or Maa.

Museveni, Ruto and Kagame should sponsor a proper genetic and historical study

So we can help save our people in Tanzania, DRC, RW, BU, Uganda and all over Southern Africa from some genocidal bantus.

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2024, 12:20:45 PM »
Pundit you pretend to know history but your ujuaji fails you .
Tutsi themselves have tried to trace their roots and they confirm they are bantus from genes and all .
Kalenjins are nilotes with close genes with South Sudans .
These are just facts , you cant change facts


The only fact you have is language  - they speak Bantu language.
There are many people who lose their language.
The other facts dont support you.
Starting with Phenotype, Genotype, Culture, etc.
DNA is conclusive test in modern era to know someone ancestry.

That is most incontrovertible fact.

Tutsi DNA has been tested and they are Kalenjin or Maa in ancestry.

Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2024, 01:31:32 PM »
Pundit you pretend to know history but your ujuaji fails you .
Tutsi themselves have tried to trace their roots and they confirm they are bantus from genes and all .
Kalenjins are nilotes with close genes with South Sudans .
These are just facts , you cant change facts


The only fact you have is language  - they speak Bantu language.
There are many people who lose their language.
The other facts dont support you.
Starting with Phenotype, Genotype, Culture, etc.
DNA is conclusive test in modern era to know someone ancestry.

That is most incontrovertible fact.

Tutsi DNA has been tested and they are Kalenjin or Maa in ancestry.

Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 
When did they do this....dna has now conclusive says Tutsi are kalenjin cousins. They not Bantus. At best they like Kikuyu...lots of nilotic n cushitic blood. They are kalenjin or maa

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2024, 06:39:15 PM »
This DNA map of genetic distance btw communities - Tutsi/Kalenjin/Maa/Hima - are one people.
We must therefore create a unity - not only to save our Tutsi/Hima/Banyamulenge kins from genocide - but to also provide the leadership.

When I saw hima and tutsi settlement from Mbarara - I just knew these people are kalenjin.

Hima pretty much run all Uganda kingdoms - from Buganda to Bunyoro

https://vahaduo.github.io/g25views/#Africa3

Correction, Most Ugandan Kingdoms are Ruled by the Bito Luos. Jobito or as the Bantus would say, Babito. Not the Himas

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2024, 06:44:53 PM »
Pundit you pretend to know history but your ujuaji fails you .
Tutsi themselves have tried to trace their roots and they confirm they are bantus from genes and all .
Kalenjins are nilotes with close genes with South Sudans .
These are just facts , you cant change facts


The only fact you have is language  - they speak Bantu language.
There are many people who lose their language.
The other facts dont support you.
Starting with Phenotype, Genotype, Culture, etc.
DNA is conclusive test in modern era to know someone ancestry.

That is most incontrovertible fact.

Tutsi DNA has been tested and they are Kalenjin or Maa in ancestry.

Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 

Pundit is somewhat correct. Kalenjins(Southern Nilotic) Split from the main group more than 3000 years ago. They intermixed with the existing souther cushitic peoples similar to the Iraqw. It is evident in some of their language and culture E.G Circumsion (Both male and female)

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2024, 07:35:41 PM »

Check Kagame scholar analysis …….

Pundit you pretend to know history but your ujuaji fails you .
Tutsi themselves have tried to trace their roots and they confirm they are bantus from genes and all .
Kalenjins are nilotes with close genes with South Sudans .
These are just facts , you cant change facts


The only fact you have is language  - they speak Bantu language.
There are many people who lose their language.
The other facts dont support you.
Starting with Phenotype, Genotype, Culture, etc.
DNA is conclusive test in modern era to know someone ancestry.

That is most incontrovertible fact.

Tutsi DNA has been tested and they are Kalenjin or Maa in ancestry.

Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 
When did they do this....dna has now conclusive says Tutsi are kalenjin cousins. They not Bantus. At best they like Kikuyu...lots of nilotic n cushitic blood. They are kalenjin or maa

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Re: Kalenjin should reconnect With their cousins Datooga,Hima n Tutsi
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2024, 07:40:08 PM »

The closest Kalenjins intermixed were with Kisiis predominantly Bomet residents the rest are Nilotes as they are . What are known as Kipsigis
I always wonder why Kalenjins are not proud of their Nilotic ancestry they always want to associate themselves with Bantu or Cushites .Inferiority complex I bet ……..

Pundit you pretend to know history but your ujuaji fails you .
Tutsi themselves have tried to trace their roots and they confirm they are bantus from genes and all .
Kalenjins are nilotes with close genes with South Sudans .
These are just facts , you cant change facts


The only fact you have is language  - they speak Bantu language.
There are many people who lose their language.
The other facts dont support you.
Starting with Phenotype, Genotype, Culture, etc.
DNA is conclusive test in modern era to know someone ancestry.

That is most incontrovertible fact.

Tutsi DNA has been tested and they are Kalenjin or Maa in ancestry.

Facts brother …… I look at facts you like self deception …. 

Pundit is somewhat correct. Kalenjins(Southern Nilotic) Split from the main group more than 3000 years ago. They intermixed with the existing souther cushitic peoples similar to the Iraqw. It is evident in some of their language and culture E.G Circumsion (Both male and female)