Aden Duale Admits on TV -ODM lost To Kibaki in 2007 by 200K Votes

[Nowayhaha]

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Look at the 14 Minute Mark.

[RV Pundit]

Stop twisting things.
Kibaki technically won by 200k.
That is what Duale is saying.

[Njuri Ncheke]

We have been telling Pundit and all ODMers Kibaki won clean at least it will sink into thier heads now, and all for that people that were killed and maimed lost property and displaced all in lies of Raila and Ruto.
Whenever Raila and Ruto unite Kenya will have bloodletting this time will be starting end of 2026.

[RV Pundit]

Kibaki won by 200K according to ECK - whose chair doesnt know who won or lost.

We have flogged this horse dead.

There is no bloodletting unless RiggyG/Uhuru starts Mungiki nonsense.

 Ruto will appoint Kindiki.

If he see Meru like you are this stupid - he will give it MaDVD and Luos

And kenya move on.

You can cry to your slave master the kikuyu nation or quickly support Meru-Tharaka.

You have two years.

2026 ODM and UDA do a merge - Kindiki is kicked out - Luo or MaDVD is appointed.

So you finish Riggyg and support Ruto - and focus on 2032.

We have been telling Pundit and all ODMers Kibaki won clean at least it will sink into thier heads now, and all for that people that were killed and maimed lost property and displaced all in lies of Raila and Ruto.
Whenever Raila and Ruto unite Kenya will have bloodletting this time will be starting end of 2026.

[mankind]

  That quote was a clever manipulation by the media. Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question as put to him was very clear. Did he think Kibaki had won fairly and that is where he said he didn't know. Nobody could claim to know that and that is why there have been election petitions every time there's an election. The only party that can answer that question is a court after having listened to claims and counter claims. It then makes a determination on a balance of probabilities.

   The 41 vs 1 crap was tried even against Ruto in 2022 and flopped. Numbers never lie. The combined might of Gema is still a big factor in kenyan politics even with the 50 plus one threshold. As we proved before Kibaki left central and upper Eastern with such a huge margin that Raila could not overcome. The myth that only kikuyus supported Kibaki is hogwash because kisii and kuria supported Kibaki through Machage and the Nyachaes. Luhyias especially the bukusu supported Kibaki and parts of coast and North Eastern. Kalonzo spoiled things in places such as Pokot through Poghisio while Turkana split. Upper Rift valley from Nakuru molo,Nyandarua went for Kibaki too. At the end of the day Raila lost fair and square.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Kibaki won by 200K according to ECK - whose chair doesnt know who won or lost.

We have flogged this horse dead.

There is no bloodletting unless RiggyG/Uhuru starts Mungiki nonsense.

 Ruto will appoint Kindiki.

If he see Meru like you are this stupid - he will give it MaDVD and Luos

And kenya move on.

You can cry to your slave master the kikuyu nation or quickly support Meru-Tharaka.

You have two years.

2026 ODM and UDA do a merge - Kindiki is kicked out - Luo or MaDVD is appointed.

So you finish Riggyg and support Ruto - and focus on 2032.

We have been telling Pundit and all ODMers Kibaki won clean at least it will sink into thier heads now, and all for that people that were killed and maimed lost property and displaced all in lies of Raila and Ruto.
Whenever Raila and Ruto unite Kenya will have bloodletting this time will be starting end of 2026.

Dont reason like an illiterate, Gachagua is also a Meru too or half Meru if you like it. Merus dont think on narrow tribal crap like you Moist Kalenjin.
Ruto need focus on Economy and the massive corruption kalenjin henchmen are conducting, tell us about selling country to Adani this wont go away like I tell you enjoy your few years in power because next government you will pay and be stripped of everything I pity people like Murkommen and young kales leaders who will carry the consequences as they are still young,it will be brutal. Ruto is last kalenjin ever president in Kenya,its going down Punda

[RV Pundit]

Njuri, Ruto will give you 2yrs, tuko na options.

[RV Pundit]

  That quote was a clever manipulation by the media. Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question as put to him was very clear. Did he think Kibaki had won fairly and that is where he said he didn't know. Nobody could claim to know that and that is why there have been election petitions every time there's an election. The only party that can answer that question is a court after having listened to claims and counter claims. It then makes a determination on a balance of probabilities.

   The 41 vs 1 crap was tried even against Ruto in 2022 and flopped. Numbers never lie. The combined might of Gema is still a big factor in kenyan politics even with the 50 plus one threshold. As we proved before Kibaki left central and upper Eastern with such a huge margin that Raila could not overcome. The myth that only kikuyus supported Kibaki is hogwash because kisii and kuria supported Kibaki through Machage and the Nyachaes. Luhyias especially the bukusu supported Kibaki and parts of coast and North Eastern. Kalonzo spoiled things in places such as Pokot through Poghisio while Turkana split. Upper Rift valley from Nakuru molo,Nyandarua went for Kibaki too. At the end of the day Raila lost fair and square.

This dead house.odm had 105 mps n the speaker. That good indicator kibaki rigged. He shared power.

[Kadudu]

Kibaki was forced to share power. He knew he had lost, but the Kikuyu diehard nationalists insisted he stages a coup. Which he did.

Kibaki's actions in 2007 led Kenya to where it is today. A political and economical turmoil. The democratic spirit of 2002 died and it will take decades for Kenya to recover from that 2007 shock.

This dead house.odm had 105 mps n the speaker. That good indicator kibaki rigged. He shared power.

[Nefertiti]

The two outstanding legacies of Kibaki are PEV2008 and CoK2010. Give the upside to him too.

[Nefertiti]

Nchuri Ncheke, is RiggyG a Meru or is it the wife? Does Kindiki stand a chance against him?

[Kadudu]

Gachagua is a Kikuyu from Nyeri. Nyeri Kikuyus are very close to Merus. Even closer to Merus than to Kiambu Kikuyus.
Kindiki does not have to stand against Gachagua. If the MPigs ompeach Gachagua and the Senate upholds it, then Kindiki has won the battle for the moment. Kindiki will never win over the Kikuyu vote. That is not even the intention of Ruto. He wants to split the Merus and Embus from the Kikuyu.

Nchuri Ncheke, is RiggyG a Meru or is it the wife? Does Kindiki stand a chance against him?

[Nowayhaha]

Options are 3 , similarly to criminal . The third is accept and move on .
Ruto will be No 3 come 2027 same like Kalonzo performed in 2007 .

Njuri, Ruto will give you 2yrs, tuko na options.

[Nowayhaha]

Duale addressed the same saying Kibaki had multiple parties supporting him the effect is PNU as a party had less MPS but the Coalition pulled equal numbers like ODM . Further more Kibaki running on a coalition had places like Nairobi and Western ODM winning MPs due to split votes . ODM made the same mistake in 2013 . Jubilee (TNA & URP) learnt from 2007 and had zoning where they could let the 2 parties field candidates in the same constituency . It worked and thats why they had the numbers they bettered that by merging and forming kne pary Jubilee.
He even further elaborates and says There was injustice in GEMA areas as Rift Valley and KANU areas been given additional undue constituencies for supporting Moi and this was rectified by 2010 constitution .
Thus the argument of using MPs as a premises for winning election is Null and Void .
Kibaki won period even Ruto is on record confirming that .

  That quote was a clever manipulation by the media. Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question as put to him was very clear. Did he think Kibaki had won fairly and that is where he said he didn't know. Nobody could claim to know that and that is why there have been election petitions every time there's an election. The only party that can answer that question is a court after having listened to claims and counter claims. It then makes a determination on a balance of probabilities.

   The 41 vs 1 crap was tried even against Ruto in 2022 and flopped. Numbers never lie. The combined might of Gema is still a big factor in kenyan politics even with the 50 plus one threshold. As we proved before Kibaki left central and upper Eastern with such a huge margin that Raila could not overcome. The myth that only kikuyus supported Kibaki is hogwash because kisii and kuria supported Kibaki through Machage and the Nyachaes. Luhyias especially the bukusu supported Kibaki and parts of coast and North Eastern. Kalonzo spoiled things in places such as Pokot through Poghisio while Turkana split. Upper Rift valley from Nakuru molo,Nyandarua went for Kibaki too. At the end of the day Raila lost fair and square.

This dead house.odm had 105 mps n the speaker. That good indicator kibaki rigged. He shared power.

[RV Pundit]

Hii ni Bhangi Mbichi.
Eti Nyeri kikuyus are close to Merus?
Nyeri kikuyus like Kiambu original homeland is just muranga - the middle of them
Mathira kikuyu are a little different - learning to Kirinyanga
Northern Nyeri in Tetu had lot of Maasai Dorobo - just Kiambu Kikuyus.
Proper kikuyu is Muranga.

Kirinyanga is mix of Kikuyu and Embu - Ki-ndia, Gichugu, etc - small tribes. Mathira would be part of it. Gachagua is Mathira.

After that Kirinyangas are close to Embu.
Embu mixed with Kambas - Mbeere
Embu mixed with Merus -  Chukas/Tharaka - Kindikis.

Then Merus proper - who are now Chuka/Tharaka/Embu like people mixed with Samburus/Maasai.

Kibaki support in Meru & Embu was happenstance.
Kibaki was friend of Mwiraria - Mwiraria was his finance PS I think
So DP was formed - Kibaki had few friends in Meru and Embu.

Kiraitu and Gitobu had no time for Kibaki's DP - so they went to Ford-K.

After 92 elections-  Merus & Embus from coffee/tea growing regions - more affluent - went to kibaki
As those in drylands - remained with Moi's KANU

Gachagua is a Kikuyu from Nyeri. Nyeri Kikuyus are very close to Merus. Even closer to Merus than to Kiambu Kikuyus.
Kindiki does not have to stand against Gachagua. If the MPigs ompeach Gachagua and the Senate upholds it, then Kindiki has won the battle for the moment. Kindiki will never win over the Kikuyu vote. That is not even the intention of Ruto. He wants to split the Merus and Embus from the Kikuyu.

Nchuri Ncheke, is RiggyG a Meru or is it the wife? Does Kindiki stand a chance against him?

[RV Pundit]

Duale said all that in the video?

Duale addressed the same saying Kibaki had multiple parties supporting him the effect is PNU as a party had less MPS but the Coalition pulled equal numbers like ODM . Further more Kibaki running on a coalition had places like Nairobi and Western ODM winning MPs due to split votes . ODM made the same mistake in 2013 . Jubilee (TNA & URP) learnt from 2007 and had zoning where they could let the 2 parties field candidates in the same constituency . It worked and thats why they had the numbers they bettered that by merging and forming kne pary Jubilee.
He even further elaborates and says There was injustice in GEMA areas as Rift Valley and KANU areas been given additional undue constituencies for supporting Moi and this was rectified by 2010 constitution .
Thus the argument of using MPs as a premises for winning election is Null and Void .
Kibaki won period even Ruto is on record confirming that .

  That quote was a clever manipulation by the media. Kivuitu never said he didn't know who won. The question as put to him was very clear. Did he think Kibaki had won fairly and that is where he said he didn't know. Nobody could claim to know that and that is why there have been election petitions every time there's an election. The only party that can answer that question is a court after having listened to claims and counter claims. It then makes a determination on a balance of probabilities.

   The 41 vs 1 crap was tried even against Ruto in 2022 and flopped. Numbers never lie. The combined might of Gema is still a big factor in kenyan politics even with the 50 plus one threshold. As we proved before Kibaki left central and upper Eastern with such a huge margin that Raila could not overcome. The myth that only kikuyus supported Kibaki is hogwash because kisii and kuria supported Kibaki through Machage and the Nyachaes. Luhyias especially the bukusu supported Kibaki and parts of coast and North Eastern. Kalonzo spoiled things in places such as Pokot through Poghisio while Turkana split. Upper Rift valley from Nakuru molo,Nyandarua went for Kibaki too. At the end of the day Raila lost fair and square.

This dead house.odm had 105 mps n the speaker. That good indicator kibaki rigged. He shared power.