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In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll

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Offline Nowayhaha

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In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« on: August 10, 2024, 09:30:40 AM »
How will Ruto fair in 2027 elections if he makes it ?

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2024, 11:42:23 AM »
This is clearly mental :)

It emantes from deranged mind which says Ruto will only get kalenjin vote?

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2024, 12:01:17 PM »
This is clearly mental :)

It emantes from deranged mind which says Ruto will only get kalenjin vote?
Its not far fetched it depends on how going forward he calculates for example if baba wants to be spoiler he will endrorse another candidate if that candidate is backed by GEMA of course its case closed for Ruto, actually Ruto cant get all kalenjin votes , baringo and some areas in RV are hostile to him ,its very tight for Ruto and worse entangling with baba is jinxed.
Ruto cant get past 60% Luhya no matter what
Coast again 50% max
Blocks GEMA ,kamba,Luo would bury him.

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2024, 12:16:42 PM »
Noway and Githunguri math is like Pundit 2012 - where Ruto was going to edge out Raila in round 1  :)
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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2024, 12:23:30 PM »
This is clearly mental :)

It emantes from deranged mind which says Ruto will only get kalenjin vote?
Its not far fetched it depends on how going forward he calculates for example if baba wants to be spoiler he will endrorse another candidate if that candidate is backed by GEMA of course its case closed for Ruto, actually Ruto cant get all kalenjin votes , baringo and some areas in RV are hostile to him ,its very tight for Ruto and worse entangling with baba is jinxed.
Ruto cant get past 60% Luhya no matter what
Coast again 50% max
Blocks GEMA ,kamba,Luo would bury him.

Assume a match up like

Ruto-Mdvd with Baba backing
vs Kalonzo-Gachagua with Azimio remnants

I don't see what scenario has Ruto in no 3 even if Baba backs Kalonzo ticket. There is no credible 3rd horse unless senile Baba runs. He is looking like the kingmaker.
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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2024, 12:26:10 PM »
This is clearly mental :)

It emantes from deranged mind which says Ruto will only get kalenjin vote?
Its not far fetched it depends on how going forward he calculates for example if baba wants to be spoiler he will endrorse another candidate if that candidate is backed by GEMA of course its case closed for Ruto, actually Ruto cant get all kalenjin votes , baringo and some areas in RV are hostile to him ,its very tight for Ruto and worse entangling with baba is jinxed.
Ruto cant get past 60% Luhya no matter what
Coast again 50% max
Blocks GEMA ,kamba,Luo would bury him.

Assume a match up like

Ruto-Mdvd with Baba backing
vs Kalonzo-Gachagua with Azimio remnants

I don't see what scenario has Ruto in no 3 even if Baba backs Kalonzo ticket. There is no credible 3rd horse unless senile Baba runs. He is looking like the kingmaker.

It Raila backs Ruto-Madvd ticket,they will win with a landslide because they will stuff ballots in the luo western RV block and use police to intimidate officers.

Our best bet is Gachagua backs Kalonzo and then we have Ruto and Raila in the ballot.Ruto becomes Number 3.

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2024, 12:35:16 PM »
This is clearly mental :)

It emantes from deranged mind which says Ruto will only get kalenjin vote?
Its not far fetched it depends on how going forward he calculates for example if baba wants to be spoiler he will endrorse another candidate if that candidate is backed by GEMA of course its case closed for Ruto, actually Ruto cant get all kalenjin votes , baringo and some areas in RV are hostile to him ,its very tight for Ruto and worse entangling with baba is jinxed.
Ruto cant get past 60% Luhya no matter what
Coast again 50% max
Blocks GEMA ,kamba,Luo would bury him.

Assume a match up like

Ruto-Mdvd with Baba backing
vs Kalonzo-Gachagua with Azimio remnants

I don't see what scenario has Ruto in no 3 even if Baba backs Kalonzo ticket. There is no credible 3rd horse unless senile Baba runs. He is looking like the kingmaker.

It Raila backs Ruto-Madvd ticket,they will win with a landslide because they will stuff ballots in the luo western RV block and use police to intimidate officers.

Our best bet is Gachagua backs Kalonzo and then we have Ruto and Raila in the ballot.Ruto becomes Number 3.

I see. I imagine Ruto is getting solid MOU or escrow Raila will stay in Addis Ababa. That is why he has 7 CS's including Treasury, Energy, AG - down payment.
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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2024, 01:24:10 PM »
Please!
Dont disrespect me that much!
I share my data and my reasoning.
I dont engage in vodoo.

If we go to 2012 - what was final breakdown
Raila - 96 MPs
Uhuru - 72 Mps
Ruto - 65Mps
Kalonzo - 20mps.
Or something like that.

That was Ruto way above Gachagua now - he had successfuly had 33% NO COK2010 run and had been clearly the kalenjin leader from 2005 - though he had some challenges in many minister under ODM.

Gachagua sasa ni NINI HIYO. The man has his Nyeri governor and 3 Mps.


Ruto has 220MPs - even if he donates 20 MPs to rigathi - bado he has 200mps

Ruto has serious support and supporters in ALL CORNERS OF KENYA.

He has slowly snipped at ODM for last 15yrs and I think he is just about finished it now. He has tried to get Oparanya and Joho for sometimes now.

Luos are going to be solid behind Raila (it big tribe) but rest of ODM is what Ruto will TAKE

Raila remember was LUO/NDP candidate - who snipped at MOI's KANU and took it to LDP - then ODM - where he took kalenjin too.

Ruto job has been simple - Bring back the reliable Moi's KANU - small tribes alliance - t

The Moi small tribes alliance -was 40% of national vote - 50% of the parliament and he beat all BIG tribes combined - now these small tribes have increased in population with Somalis big players now - should easily get you 50% if you get Moi's KANU Back

Raila once he is in ADIS ABABA - Ruto will officially marry ODM - no way Oparanya or Johos or Mbadi will go back to opposition to hunt what they got.

GEMA or Mt kenya hoped they'd boxed Ruto - coz they contributed 20% (roughly 40% of total) of Ruto's 50% - but Ruto is working on getting his own 20% - so he can become FREE LEADER who truly RUNS kenya.

RiggyG doesnt get it yet. His best bet was to leave Ruto now to do his thing then hope in 2nd term - he has gained enough billions to fight back. Kiburi amaanza mapema.

Noway and Githunguri math is like Pundit 2012 - where Ruto was going to edge out Raila in round 1  :)


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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2024, 01:55:40 PM »
Ruto pretty much interested in wrapping coast - Raila has put Nassir son as caretaker
Last piece here is to get Mungaro on board

https://x.com/BiancaNaom1/status/1822199985053553132

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2024, 03:17:30 PM »
Ruto pretty much interested in wrapping coast - Raila has put Nassir son as caretaker
Last piece here is to get Mungaro on board

https://x.com/BiancaNaom1/status/1822199985053553132
Day dreaming,Coast and Luhya no way anyone can get pats 60% thats just plain science for example Kambas in coast are a huge figure if you go to the details the most Ruto can get is 60 per cent
Luhyas even if you front mudavd as pork they will at most give him 60%
Punda be realistic
The deciders here are luos Kambas and GEMA,if They back one candidate Ruto doesn't even have to stand he will be whitewashed worse state machinery cant help him rig as he doesn't have any, he is playing survival even to think of crafting one now. Baba might decide ro run this gives Ruto a chance again i don't see GEMA and Kambas working together Ruto will scrape through most likely but the damage will be huge he will have to craft a government of national unity as he wont get 50 percent first round.
Stop hallucinations that Ruto has support eti across the country,then if that the case gen z revolution wont have happened wacha bangi and he wont need Baba simple

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2024, 04:31:23 PM »
You think Ruto got voted by Mt kenya only?
Ama?

Even despite Azimio being in Gov and having deep state - Ruto got substantial votes in many regions including coast.

Coast he was generally at 35% to 65% for Raila.

Unless Raila runs again - Coast is Ruto for taking.

I dont see how Coast can elect Kalonzo or Gachagua or ticket funded by Mt kenya.

If Kalonzo-Gachagua/Kikuyu is fronted - Ruto takes coast by almost 85% to 15%.

Presidential Election Results (2022) by County
County   Raila Odinga (%)   William Ruto (%)
Mombasa   57.98%   40.96%
Kwale   70.18%   28.97%
Kilifi   71.63%   26.90%
Tana River   54.98%   44.37%
Lamu   52.24%   45.64%

Coast
Total Valid Votes: 885,381
Raila Odinga: 64.2%
William Ruto: 34.7%



Ruto pretty much interested in wrapping coast - Raila has put Nassir son as caretaker
Last piece here is to get Mungaro on board

https://x.com/BiancaNaom1/status/1822199985053553132
Day dreaming,Coast and Luhya no way anyone can get pats 60% thats just plain science for example Kambas in coast are a huge figure if you go to the details the most Ruto can get is 60 per cent
Luhyas even if you front mudavd as pork they will at most give him 60%
Punda be realistic
The deciders here are luos Kambas and GEMA,if They back one candidate Ruto doesn't even have to stand he will be whitewashed worse state machinery cant help him rig as he doesn't have any, he is playing survival even to think of crafting one now. Baba might decide ro run this gives Ruto a chance again i don't see GEMA and Kambas working together Ruto will scrape through most likely but the damage will be huge he will have to craft a government of national unity as he wont get 50 percent first round.
Stop hallucinations that Ruto has support eti across the country,then if that the case gen z revolution wont have happened wacha bangi and he wont need Baba simple

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2024, 08:21:01 PM »
Pundit since you good at tribal maths, do a coastal and western tribal maths and show me how especially coast Ruto gets 85%
So Ruto will get that you saying in coast but did not get it in 2022 in mlima and RV???????? :o




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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2024, 09:48:35 PM »

Gachagua is Rutos making most probably he will  be on Rutos side.
Mudavadi is also a non factor.
Raila will run again , its business for him. Ruto will become No 3.

This is clearly mental :)

It emantes from deranged mind which says Ruto will only get kalenjin vote?
Its not far fetched it depends on how going forward he calculates for example if baba wants to be spoiler he will endrorse another candidate if that candidate is backed by GEMA of course its case closed for Ruto, actually Ruto cant get all kalenjin votes , baringo and some areas in RV are hostile to him ,its very tight for Ruto and worse entangling with baba is jinxed.
Ruto cant get past 60% Luhya no matter what
Coast again 50% max
Blocks GEMA ,kamba,Luo would bury him.

Assume a match up like

Ruto-Mdvd with Baba backing
vs Kalonzo-Gachagua with Azimio remnants

I don't see what scenario has Ruto in no 3 even if Baba backs Kalonzo ticket. There is no credible 3rd horse unless senile Baba runs. He is looking like the kingmaker.

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2024, 09:12:38 AM »
Still too early but if Raila is not running Ruto get 85% or more of coast and western - against Eastern/Mt kenya backed alliance.
If Raila is running - we go to the usual split with Ruto improving his fortunes.
Uhuru uses to poll 13% of coast.
Ruto did 30%.
Pundit since you good at tribal maths, do a coastal and western tribal maths and show me how especially coast Ruto gets 85%
So Ruto will get that you saying in coast but did not get it in 2022 in mlima and RV???????? :o





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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2024, 12:53:14 PM »
Back to default settings globalist wannabe is on fish to water grounds and has done well to reassure the largely conservative family and business minded kwinyans who cannot process anarchy.

With the debt servicing trillions, it means little will be achieved on the ground as the government officials have political cover and will be stealing without fear. The projects he is inspecting are laughable- mainly abandoned markets and roads. It will soon be back to heckling.
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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2024, 12:55:50 PM »
Kamba numbers count in Taveta and Mombasa. Kikuyus Lamu, Kwale?

Still too early but if Raila is not running Ruto get 85% or more of coast and western - against Eastern/Mt kenya backed alliance.
If Raila is running - we go to the usual split with Ruto improving his fortunes.
Uhuru uses to poll 13% of coast.
Ruto did 30%.
Pundit since you good at tribal maths, do a coastal and western tribal maths and show me how especially coast Ruto gets 85%
So Ruto will get that you saying in coast but did not get it in 2022 in mlima and RV???????? :o




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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2024, 01:27:30 PM »
That 15% - except Lamu (50%)
Kamba numbers count in Taveta and Mombasa. Kikuyus Lamu, Kwale?

Still too early but if Raila is not running Ruto get 85% or more of coast and western - against Eastern/Mt kenya backed alliance.
If Raila is running - we go to the usual split with Ruto improving his fortunes.
Uhuru uses to poll 13% of coast.
Ruto did 30%.
Pundit since you good at tribal maths, do a coastal and western tribal maths and show me how especially coast Ruto gets 85%
So Ruto will get that you saying in coast but did not get it in 2022 in mlima and RV???????? :o





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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2024, 03:15:14 PM »
Ruto is a one term president, Mt Kenya will massage his balls for benefits because that’s his style, Luos will do the same but come voting day, atajionea. Ruto is the first president in Kenya who is not really clicking or connecting with Kenyans, his lies and roadside proclamations are not translating on the ground, he is losing voters and not gaining new ones. This is the reason why Raila is walking the tight rope talking from both ends of his mouth.

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2024, 05:24:40 PM »
Ruto is a one term president, Mt Kenya will massage his balls for benefits because that’s his style, Luos will do the same but come voting day, atajionea. Ruto is the first president in Kenya who is not really clicking or connecting with Kenyans, his lies and roadside proclamations are not translating on the ground, he is losing voters and not gaining new ones. This is the reason why Raila is walking the tight rope talking from both ends of his mouth.

Ruto upside is thrift in using bribes to buy support. Even better than Moi. So long as Zamunda politics is dynastic Ruto is shoe in. GenZ has no structure.

Ruto's weakness is hubris. Months before winning by 200K votes Pundit and RVHH had declared end of history. :) GoK machine would be a smooth clockwork. But he has not done any better than Kibaki. I mean the injured alcoholic Kibaki survived 3 years before 2005 GNU.

Nipate should have shut down in August 2022 but we are here cheering Ruto must go. Per the resident oracle.

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Re: In 2027 Elections What Position will Ruto Poll
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2024, 07:57:14 PM »
Ruto deliberately choose to do pursue painful unpopular reforms to fix a mess. Now he is playing politics. He still running alone as far 2027 goes..