Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu

[Githunguri]

https://www.youtube.com/live/unUU_HoNeeo?si=YhxGegLjs-t-Bj-T

[Nefertiti]

True - depends on the MOVES the players make. Ruto succeeded by sheer political genius - by outplaying Raila who was the chief rival.

Today it not Ruto vs RiggyG. Riggy is aiming at 2032 and is not a threat to Ruto 2027 which will be just another 2017 sail through. GenZ have disrupted Rutonomics but there is really nothing to stop Ruto 10 years.

But 2032... RiggyG may not quite have Ruto stellar game but he's onto the money curving out Gema for himself. Of course it depends on subsequent events - but Mdvd, Kindiki, Ndindi - or Sakaja - none of these LIGHTWEIGHTS are any match for RiggyG.

Ruto as politician cares about winning his own term not burn capital to impeach or propping useless folks like Mdvd. They are pawns. So unless say Ndindi outsmart RiggyG... let's watch out for that.

Power concede nothing [sic].

Just because a strategy worked for Ruto doesnt mean it will work for RiggyG.

Ruto can easily finish RiggyG by appointing Kindiki or Ndidi to become DPORK after impeaching him

Mt kenya leaders will agree to this and the public too.

RiggyG will become two man guitar band singing Mugithi

Gachagua 2024-27 is akin to Ruto 2009-13. Gachagua has to build his own URP or Gema party and use as bargaining chip in 2027/32. He is doing very well. Of course just like "Raila took us to Hague" most accusations against Ruto today are false. Inflation,  jobs,  illicit brew,  helicopter,... even a dead dog in Mt Kenya will be blamed on Ruto.

[RV Pundit]

I dont understand why you overrate RiggyG
I am first person here to declare RiggyG would become DPORK.
The usual morons here were SO VIOLENT - led by NOWAYAHA AND NJURI - idea of RiggyG as DPORK was outrageous!
And I am telling you now RiggyG sell by date is OVER.
The usual morons now want to KILL ME for saying it.

He can barely get 10 MPS to support him.
Why would Ruto or RiggyG enemies keep him when he is very impeachable now.
RiggyG wants to force Ruto into 50-50 co-presidency.
He want Ruto to really ACTUALLY SHARE POWER AND MONEY.
That to Ruto is UNTENABLE. He created RiggyG.

Ruto can easily call Mt Kenya and tell them he made a mistake - Kindiki (Meru though small tribe) or Ndidi.

All indicators are Ruto is just marking time...soon it will be Kindiki or Ndidi.

RiggyG biggest mistake was to overrate himself. He is just Ruto political appointee.

True - depends on the MOVES the players make. Ruto succeeded by sheer political genius - by outplaying Raila who was the chief rival.

Today it not Ruto vs RiggyG. Riggy is aiming at 2032 and is not a threat to Ruto 2027 which will be just another 2017 sail through. GenZ have disrupted Rutonomics but there is really nothing to stop Ruto 10 years.

But 2032... RiggyG may not quite have Ruto stellar game but he's onto the money curving out Gema for himself. Of course it depends on subsequent events - but Mdvd, Kindiki, Ndindi - or Sakaja - none of these LIGHTWEIGHTS are any match for RiggyG.

Ruto as politician cares about winning his own term not burn capital to impeach or propping useless folks like Mdvd. They are pawns. So unless say Ndindi outsmart RiggyG... let's watch out for that.

Power concede nothing [sic].

[Nefertiti]

I see. Riggy came late into politics - he is at Ruto 2008 now - curving tribal base. That the basis to overrate himself: he must demonize Ruto to own Gema. Don't you see parallels with Ruto vs Raila 2008-13? Kindiki, Ndindi are Magerer or Sirma who will be crashed as traitors.

Uhuru is RETIRED - I think you are overrating him.

I dont understand why you overrate RiggyG
I am first person here to declare RiggyG would become DPORK.
The usual morons here were SO VIOLENT - led by NOWAYAHA AND NJURI - idea of RiggyG as DPORK was outrageous!
And I am telling you now RiggyG sell by date is OVER.
The usual morons now want to KILL ME for saying it.

He can barely get 10 MPS to support him.
Why would Ruto or RiggyG enemies keep him when he is very impeachable now.
RiggyG wants to force Ruto into 50-50 co-presidency.
He want Ruto to really ACTUALLY SHARE POWER AND MONEY.
That to Ruto is UNTENABLE. He created RiggyG.

Ruto can easily call Mt Kenya and tell them he made a mistake - Kindiki (Meru though small tribe) or Ndidi.

All indicators are Ruto is just marking time...soon it will be Kindiki or Ndidi.

RiggyG biggest mistake was to overrate himself. He is just Ruto political appointee.

True - depends on the MOVES the players make. Ruto succeeded by sheer political genius - by outplaying Raila who was the chief rival.

Today it not Ruto vs RiggyG. Riggy is aiming at 2032 and is not a threat to Ruto 2027 which will be just another 2017 sail through. GenZ have disrupted Rutonomics but there is really nothing to stop Ruto 10 years.

But 2032... RiggyG may not quite have Ruto stellar game but he's onto the money curving out Gema for himself. Of course it depends on subsequent events - but Mdvd, Kindiki, Ndindi - or Sakaja - none of these LIGHTWEIGHTS are any match for RiggyG.

Ruto as politician cares about winning his own term not burn capital to impeach or propping useless folks like Mdvd. They are pawns. So unless say Ndindi outsmart RiggyG... let's watch out for that.

Power concede nothing [sic].

[Githunguri]

If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

[Nefertiti]

If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

[Githunguri]

If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

Two issues.

1) Ruto has been trying to find a way to dump Gachagua and replace him with Ndindi.

2) Majority of GEMA Mps are Ruto sycophants and they've been undermining Gachagua.They know if Gachagua goes ahead to establish a GEMA Party they will not be re-elected so they are one of the groups in parliament who want Gachagua impeached.

NOW Ruto went to Mt Kenya to test the waters whether Gachagua is popular and how his impeachment would be received across GEMA.He started in Embu Tharaka to test the Embus Tharaka (difficult GEMA dialect),He then headed to Kiriani Muranga Nyeri border,Then Muranga which is the heart of GEMA and then Gatanga kiambu border.The crowd which had been mobilized by Ruto through the provincial and county administration plus Pro Ruto GEMA Mps (check video of the crowd demanding payment from MPs) was cheering Gachagua in Rutos presence.They basically told Ruto off indirectly by CHEERING Gachagua.The videos are public.

Infact Ruto sycophants like Waiguru went into hiding while Ruto Ndindi sycophants were very measured in their words to avoid being jeered.Moving foward,UDA ni chama cha ufisadi ukabila udikteta ukora ushetani utapeli

[Nefertiti]

If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

Two issues.

1) Ruto has been trying to find a way to dump Gachagua and replace him with Ndindi.

2) Majority of GEMA Mps are Ruto sycophants and they've been undermining Gachagua.They know if Gachagua goes ahead to establish a GEMA Party they will not be re-elected so they are one of the groups in parliament who want Gachagua impeached.

NOW Ruto went to Mt Kenya to test the waters whether Gachagua is popular and how his impeachment would be received across GEMA.He started in Embu Tharaka to test the Embus Tharaka (difficult GEMA dialect),He then headed to Kiriani Muranga Nyeri border,Then Muranga which is the heart of GEMA and then Gatanga kiambu border.The crowd which had been mobilized by Ruto through the provincial and county administration plus Pro Ruto GEMA Mps (check video of the crowd demanding payment from MPs) was cheering Gachagua in Rutos presence.They basically told Ruto off indirectly by CHEERING Gachagua.The videos are public.

Yes. Gema are not stupid and will line up behind RiggyG the more Ruto undermines him with impeachment or budget cuts. Basically foxy Riggy praises Ruto at such rallies - while Kahiga and Wamuchombas and Kimani Ngunjiris viciously attack GoK.

[Githunguri]

If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

Two issues.

1) Ruto has been trying to find a way to dump Gachagua and replace him with Ndindi.

2) Majority of GEMA Mps are Ruto sycophants and they've been undermining Gachagua.They know if Gachagua goes ahead to establish a GEMA Party they will not be re-elected so they are one of the groups in parliament who want Gachagua impeached.

NOW Ruto went to Mt Kenya to test the waters whether Gachagua is popular and how his impeachment would be received across GEMA.He started in Embu Tharaka to test the Embus Tharaka (difficult GEMA dialect),He then headed to Kiriani Muranga Nyeri border,Then Muranga which is the heart of GEMA and then Gatanga kiambu border.The crowd which had been mobilized by Ruto through the provincial and county administration plus Pro Ruto GEMA Mps (check video of the crowd demanding payment from MPs) was cheering Gachagua in Rutos presence.They basically told Ruto off indirectly by CHEERING Gachagua.The videos are public.

Yes. Gema are not stupid and will line up behind RiggyG the more Ruto undermines him with impeachment or budget cuts. Basically foxy Riggy praises Ruto at such rallies - while Kahiga and Wamuchombas and Kimani Ngunjiris viciously attack GoK.

Gachagua doesn't praise Ruto in those rallies,let me break down what he says indirectly .He calls Ruto political opponents using the following language.

Andu aitu--Watu wetu.
Muurii oo kuo-Bado mako.
No muiiyuumitie-Bado mnajikaza.
Onanie ndirii okuo na ndo nidii yuumitie-hata mimi niko na jikaza.
No ngaii no muiiega-lakini mungu ni mwema.
Mutongoria uyu ni ithuii twa thurire--Huyu jamaa ni sisi tulichagua...He doesn't continue from there,kikuyu don't say somethings when they disagree with someone.they leave out the words.

This is a man who knows his people are suffering and he is telling them indirectly that he is also suffering but choosing to persevere.So who is the cause of his suffering?He then tells them,We are the ones who elected Ruto ,but without our votes he wouldn't be president but he has decided to bring Raila to destroy me politically together with GEMA Mps

He then goes ahead to say that he agrees with Ruto decision of joining hands with all leaders like Raila but INDIRECTLY asks,Why not Uhuru?How can we persecute Uhuru our son?He says he must join hands with Uhuru and calls Ndindi and his sycophants KUNDA NGUTUME-SELL OUT TUKUNIA because they are praising Ruto who has brought Raila to finish him politically..

[Nefertiti]

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Githunguri is Ruto going to impeach RiggyG? Soon Ndindi and Ichung'wa will be persona non grata in Mt Kenya.

[Githunguri]

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Githunguri is Ruto going to impeach RiggyG? Soon Ndindi and Ichung'wa will be persona non grata in Mt Kenya.

Ruto can't impeach Gachagua,NOT POSSIBLE.

Can you try to imagine these events->

Ruto impeaches Gachagua he looses 90% GEMA vote,

He is left with Raila in government.

Suppose Raila decides to run for the presidency in 2027?

If Raila runs in 2027,We will have Kalonzo Gachagua ticket (GEMA KAMBA 35%),Raila ticket (Luo Luhya coast 35%) and Ruto ticket (Kalenjin/RV 25%)

In such a case Ruto becomes Number 3 in 2027 elections and the run off is between Kalonzo and Raila.

The problem with such a scenario,It would be technically difficult to rig such an election because if Raila is the ballot Ruto can't rig in Western or Nyanza,He can't rig in Mt Kenya,He can't rig in Ukambani.Rigging in cosmopolitan counties would be even impossible.Infact the people who would rig that election would be Gachagua Kalonzo and Raila in their strongholds.

[RV Pundit]

Tortured argument.
You say Ruto has lost GEMA
If he impeached Gachagua he loses even more?

If I was Ruto - I will impeach Gachagua -
1st because I CAN-
what use of having 300MPs if you cannot use it to solve political problems
Ruto got 210Mps to vote finance bill - he has added 85Mps from ODM.
That 200MPs.
Infact Gachagua can maybe get 20Mps from Mt Kenya and 25Mps from Ukambani if he really tries.

Once Gachagua is gone - Ruto should appoint Ndidi Nyoro - if he still has way to make up for Kikuyu vote
Or Kindiki - if he wants to focus mostly on Mt Kenya East - and try to flog him to Kikuyus
Already Mt Kenya Mps and Govenrors do not like Gachagua - it easy to explain why Kindiki

The longer Gachagua stays the Longer he extends the CIVIL WAR in UDA and stop Ruto from merging with ODM/FORD-K/ANC
Which what Ruto needs in 2027.

Ruto would be a fool to go 2027 with 50% coalition - even if MT Kenya backed him 90%.
It just not good enough.

He won by Whisker last election.

Gachagua and some Mt Kenya in their selfishness wanted to OWN RUTO.

Ruto has to share power because again 50.01% he won is just NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Is Gachagua in opposition able to sustain fight against Ruto in Mt Kenya.
Very much doubt it.
If as DPORK he is struggling with 2 MPs - once he has been fired - he will just be a bitter soul with Kalonzo.
He wont be able to get Mps or MCas or Senators.

He wont have the money and presence to hold rallies in Mt Kenya

Even now he is tagging along Ruto. He cannot organize his own rallies.

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Githunguri is Ruto going to impeach RiggyG? Soon Ndindi and Ichung'wa will be persona non grata in Mt Kenya.

Ruto can't impeach Gachagua,NOT POSSIBLE.

Can you try to imagine these events->

Ruto impeaches Gachagua he looses 90% GEMA vote,

He is left with Raila in government.

Suppose Raila decides to run for the presidency in 2027?

If Raila runs in 2027,We will have Kalonzo Gachagua ticket (GEMA KAMBA 35%),Raila ticket (Luo Luhya coast 35%) and Ruto ticket (Kalenjin/RV 25%)

In such a case Ruto becomes Number 3 in 2027 elections and the run off is between Kalonzo and Raila.

The problem with such a scenario,It would be technically difficult to rig such an election because if Raila is the ballot Ruto can't rig in Western or Nyanza,He can't rig in Mt Kenya,He can't rig in Ukambani.Rigging in cosmopolitan counties would be even impossible.Infact the people who would rig that election would be Gachagua Kalonzo and Raila in their strongholds.

[Githunguri]

Kirinyaga.

[Nefertiti]

Pundit has naive impeachment math- without factoring blowback. Why didn't Uhuru impeach Ruto?

Riggy would run to court - all the way to SCORK - drag civil war till 2027. Meantime that real ammo to line up Gema. Then Raila is unreliable snake who still wants to be PORK. Even Mdvd will stab Ruto in the back if the opportunity arises.

Impeachment is no joke. Not just UDA but KK-ODM deal itself could implode.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto was not vulnerable.
Ruto has faced impeachment as minister and prevailed.
Ruto always had many MPS on retainer because he was using BILLIONS.
He had 133 mps and 17 senators to save him.

Gachagua is one man guitar.

There is no judiciary that can stop clear cut law like parliament impeaching deputy president.

Once the motion is fired - Rigathi know if he is successuflly impeached - he is TKOed from politics - will resign.
If he stays and fight impeachment - and it goes through - he will never become Ass Chief in kenya - failed chapter six.

Ruto can choose to walk on MT kenya eggs - or fix RiggyG problem early and now.

As it get to 2027 - it become harder - so time to do it is btw now and FEB 25th when we have Raila desperate for AU.

Well Ruto should listen to people who care about him like US - not you guys who want him to commit errors and lose 2027.

Pundit has naive impeachment math- without factoring blowback. Why didn't Uhuru impeach Ruto?

Riggy would run to court - all the way to SCORK - drag civil war till 2027. Meantime that real ammo to line up Gema. Then Raila is unreliable snake who still wants to be PORK. Even Mdvd will stab Ruto in the back if the opportunity arises.

Impeachment is no joke. Not just UDA but KK-ODM deal itself could implode.

[RV Pundit]

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

[Githunguri]

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

[Nefertiti]

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.

[Githunguri]

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.

Gachagua is a BULLDOG.

If you watch the whole video from 3:30-4:30,He says the following:
1) Hii serikali ni sisi tulichagua,hatuwezi wacha serikali yetu-He is simply daring Ruto to impeach him otherwise they will go home together.He is also warning any GEMA MP who will dare support that motion will receive the wrath of the citizens.
2) He then goes ahead to say,That IMPEACHMENT NONSENSE should remain on whatsapp groups.Imagine saying that to a president.

The next political move is that Gachagua will join Ruto developmental tour in Kisii and Western this week,The Mps in those regions like Osoro and Khalwale will be there to attack him,Their attacks and heckling crowds videos will be spread like bushfire by Gachagua online Goons and discussed in radio stations and blogs which will further consolidate his support.

Ruto body language says it all.

[Nefertiti]

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.

Gachagua is a BULLDOG.

If you watch the whole video from 3:30-4:30,He says the following:
1) Hii serikali ni sisi tulichagua,hatuwezi wacha serikali yetu-He is simply daring Ruto to impeach him otherwise they will go home together.He is also warning any GEMA MP who will dare support that motion will receive the wrath of the citizens.
2) He then goes ahead to say,That IMPEACHMENT NONSENSE should remain on whatsapp groups.Imagine saying that to a president.

The next political move is that Gachagua will join Ruto developmental tour in Kisii and Western this week,The Mps in those regions like Osoro and Khalwale will be there to attack him,Their attacks and heckling crowds videos will be spread like bushfire by Gachagua online Goons and discussed in radio stations and blogs which will further consolidate his support.

Ruto body language says it all.

Can't Ruto kick Gachagua off his caravan? Why tag him along?