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"In my county [Washington] we have a religious sect known as the Seventh-day Adventists, a very devout and respectable people, but they labor on our Sabbath [Sunday], and greatly annoy the Christian people of that section. . . . If you lived in Springdale for a few months, your opinions on the 'religious liberty' function would undergo a radical change. Those Seventh-day Adventists are generally good citizens, but they have become very aggressive since the passage of the Sunday law of two years ago, and our people are getting very tired of them. The senator from Independence suggests that if this bill should pass, it will drive these people from the State. That would not be a serious loss. There would be fewer Sabbath-breakers to deal with." J. N. Tillman, Facts for the Times, 229.

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This is for the attention of Windy City just in case he thought Pastor Ad Hominem's religious intolerance is a pesky fly in the wind.

Speech by Jonathan Edwards, D. D. to the National Reform Association (stands for religious unity in defending the Christian faith, especially the (spurious) Sabbath called Sunday, the removal of the First Amendment, the unity of church and state, and the return of Bible teaching to public schools.

Now, we are warned that to ingraft this doctrine upon the Constitution will be oppressive; that it will infringe the rights of conscience; and we are told that there are atheists, deists, Jews, and Seventh-day Baptiststhe atheist? I would tolerate him as I would tolerate a poor lunatic; for in my view his mind is scarcely sound. So long as he does not rave, so long as he is not dangerous, I would tolerate him. I would tolerate him as I would a conspirator. The atheist is a dangerous man. Yes, to this extent I will tolerate the atheist; but no more. Why should I? The atheist does not tolerate me. He does not smile either in pity or in scorn upon my faith. He hates my faith, and he hates me for my faith. I can tolerate difference and discussion; I can tolerate heresy and false religion; I can debate the use of the Bible in our common schools, the taxation of church property, the propriety of chaplaincies and the like, but there are some questions past debate. Tolerate atheism, sir? There is nothing out of hell that I would not tolerate as soon! The atheist may live, as I have said; but, God helping us, the taint of his destructive creed shall not defile any of the civil institutions of all this fair land! Let us repeat, atheism and Christianity are contradictory terms. They are incompatible systems. They cannot dwell together on the same continent!

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http://absg.adventist.org/2015/2Q/TE/PDFs/ETQ215_05.pdf

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http://absg.adventist.org/2015/2Q/TE/PDFs/ETQ215_05.pdf

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Judge orders public schools to exempt SDA students in row over Sabbath

BY  PAMELA CHEPKEMEI Updated Tuesday, May 28th 2013 at 00:00 GMT +3

Nairobi, Kenya: Secondary school students who subscribe to Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) church are exempt from weekend classes thanks to a landmark order by a judge hearing a dispute over Sabbath. High Court Judge Isaac Lenaola directed all public secondary schools in the country to allow SDA faithful students to skip classes from Friday evening through Saturday in fulfilment of the obligation to their faith. The order was made after the Seventh Day Adventist Church (East Africa) Limited filed a petition seeking a relaxation of the rules for SDA student worship while a case between them and Ministry of Education progresses in court. The Church approached the Ministry last year to resolve the matter but the Government failed to act on the complaints, according to the Church.

Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000084618/judge-orders-public-schools-to-exempt-sda-students-in-row-over-sabbath.

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Israel, formerly the chosen nation, now bows at the feet of Rome.

Bennett to demand Sunday as day off

As part of coalition negotiations, Habayit Hayehudi expected to call for revival of long-weekend initiative. 'Move will benefit families, designating Sunday for shopping, leisure and trips,' party official says

Moran Azulay
Published:    02.03.13, 11:44 / Israel News

Bennett strives to shorten work week: The Habayit Hayehudi party is expected to revive the proposal to turn Sunday into a sabbatical, extending the Israeli weekend to Sunday while turning Friday into a short work day.
 
The proposal will be presented Sunday during the initial stages of government coalition negotiations between Bennett's Habayit Hayehudi and representatives of the Likud-Beiteinu.
 
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The Habayit Hayehudi says that the proposal will be one of the central tenets of their coalition demands for joining Benjamin Netanyahu's government.
 
A party source noted, "This is a social initiative that will benefit families, designating Sunday for shopping, leisure and trips," thus alleviating Saturday's burden.
 
The source further said that "the initiative is likely to lead to an extended school day during the rest of the week, in a desire to facilities women integration into the work force; as well as foster religious publics' integration into Israeli leisure cultural and activities," which had been unavailable to those who observe Shabbat (Saturday)."
 
In 2011, Prime Minister Netanyahu tasked the Head of the National Economic Council, Professor Eugene Kandel, with examining the possibility of making Sunday an additional day of rest instead of a regular work day.

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4340299,00.html

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[Bumping this up from the Abortion thread in which many would have missed it].

Our resident prophet once claimed

The Waldenses NEVER kept sabbath. Samuelle Bachiocchi could find NO evidence of their sabbath keeping despite more resources at his disposal. Let's aks him;

To my regret I found no allusion whatsoever to Sabbath-keeping among the Waldenses.

https://www.biblicalperspectives.com/endtimeissues/eti_87.html

The (f) prophet implies that the Waldensians got their namefrom their footwear and were persecuted for, further implied, choosing to wear sandals different from other people around them.

What have historians recorded about the Waldensians?

Another scholar, Bonacursus, also wrote against them: "Not a few, but many know what are the errors of those who are called Pasigini. ... First, they teach that we should obey the sabbath. Furthermore, to increase their error, they condemn and reject all the church Fathers, and the whole Roman Church".[18] In Spain the persecution was directed at the Waldensian Sabbath-keepers.[19]

Let's quote a source from Rome, the power that persecuted the Waldensians.

The Roman Inquisitor Reinerus Sacho writing c. 1230 held the sect of the Vaudois to be of great antiquity, thus long preceding Waldo by centuries. In the Waldensians, Sabbatati or Insabbatati, there was a more or less continuous tradition of Sabbath-keeping from the early church of the Apostles, throughout southern Europe. There are also account of Paulicians, Petrobusians, Pasaginians along with the Waldenses of the Alps, who kept the Saturday for the Lord's day which was in conflict with the change to Sunday held by the Roman Catholic Church. The Sabbatati were known also by the name Pasigini. In reference to the Sabbath-keeping Pasigini, one scholar wrote: "The spread of heresy at this time is almost incredible. From Bulgaria to the Ebro, from Northern France to the Tiber, everywhere we meet them. Whole countries are infested, like Hungary and southern France; they abound in many other countries; in Germany, in Italy, in the Netherlands and even in England they put their efforts."

Apart from Sabbath-keeping, the Waldensians became the target of Rome's wrath for their beliefs such as...

They held that temporal offices and dignities were not meant for preachers of the Gospel; that relics were simply rotten bones which had belonged to one knew not whom; that to go on pilgrimage served no end, save to empty one's purse; that flesh might be eaten any day if one's appetite served one; that holy water was not a whit more efficacious than rain water; and that prayer in a barn was just as effectual as if offered in a church. They were accused, moreover, of having scoffed at the doctrine of transubstantiation, and of having spoken blasphemously of the Roman Catholic Church as the harlot of the apocalypse.[3] They rejected the perceived idolatry of the Roman Catholic Church and considered the Papacy as the Antichrist of Rome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldensians

Contrary to the above assertions and to the great embarrassment of the resident prophet, assuming the sense of embarrassment is not silenced yet, the real McCoy now goes ahead and apologizes to the Waldensians (for killing only 1,700 of them, official figures supplied by Rome, one would assume).
http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2015/06/22/pope-francis-asks-pardon-from-waldensian-protestants-for-past-persecution/

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This is for the attention of Windy City just in case he thought Pastor Ad Hominem's religious intolerance is a pesky fly in the wind.

Speech by Jonathan Edwards, D. D. to the National Reform Association (stands for religious unity in defending the Christian faith, especially the (spurious) Sabbath called Sunday, the removal of the First Amendment, the unity of church and state, and the return of Bible teaching to public schools.

Now, we are warned that to ingraft this doctrine upon the Constitution will be oppressive; that it will infringe the rights of conscience; and we are told that there are atheists, deists, Jews, and Seventh-day Baptiststhe atheist? I would tolerate him as I would tolerate a poor lunatic; for in my view his mind is scarcely sound. So long as he does not rave, so long as he is not dangerous, I would tolerate him. I would tolerate him as I would a conspirator. The atheist is a dangerous man. Yes, to this extent I will tolerate the atheist; but no more. Why should I? The atheist does not tolerate me. He does not smile either in pity or in scorn upon my faith. He hates my faith, and he hates me for my faith. I can tolerate difference and discussion; I can tolerate heresy and false religion; I can debate the use of the Bible in our common schools, the taxation of church property, the propriety of chaplaincies and the like, but there are some questions past debate. Tolerate atheism, sir? There is nothing out of hell that I would not tolerate as soon! The atheist may live, as I have said; but, God helping us, the taint of his destructive creed shall not defile any of the civil institutions of all this fair land! Let us repeat, atheism and Christianity are contradictory terms. They are incompatible systems. They cannot dwell together on the same continent!

DB,

I know there is a special place in mainstream Christianity's mind for apostates like me.  I don't know what SDs teach.  In fact I think Jehovah's witnesses are quite more tolerant.

There is a friendly JW couple that drops by my door to leave me copies of their watchtower magazines every few days.  Free handy floor covers for my parakeet cage; but they don't know.

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There is a reason the distinctive Adventist message is targeted at the moment, including by unlikely foot soldiers from the Sunday-keeping Protestant Front. Atheists, it seemed to me, were collateral damage until I read that quote.
This video below is especially for the resident anti-EGW crusader in Nipate. Notice at 16:45-17:50 the words oft employed by the famous Nipate resident, lifted word-for-word from the lips of Rome.

With love from YouTube.

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Here, pope Francis sets the stage for Sunday worship in very clear terms.

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If there is any credence to Termie's theory of inverse relationship between religion and IQ its have to be Adventism

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http://www.whiteestate.org/books/gc/gc36.html

The dignitaries of church and state will unite to bribe, persuade, or compel all classes to honor the Sunday. The lack of divine authority will be supplied by oppressive enactments. Political corruption is destroying love of justice and regard for truth; and even in free America, rulers and legislators, in order to secure public favor, will yield to the popular demand for a law enforcing Sunday observance. Liberty of conscience, which has cost so great a sacrifice, will no longer be respected. In the soon-coming conflict we shall see exemplified the prophet's words: "The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17.

(The Great Controversy, pg592).

The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted.
When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God.

(The Great Controversy, pg 606).