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ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« on: May 31, 2024, 03:07:53 AM »
https://results.elections.org.za/dashboards/npe/

ANC   42.9%   
DA   23.36%
M.K.   10.28%   
EFF   9.55%

SA Parliament elects the president. You need 50%.
Ramaphosa needs Zuma or Malema 10% to form Government. Somebody here will be paid $1BN USD.

Second alternative is for opposition to strike deal and form coalition gov.That would make billions for zuma and malema.

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2024, 08:20:56 AM »
 :o Uh? Noone will be paid anything.

MK is just rebranded IFP of Mongosuthu Buthelezi - it was just a matter of time tribal chief Zuma took over Zulu who are angry, entitled akin to Kenyan Luo. Nothing new here - only shame is this will marginalize them again. The upside it ups pressure on incompetent ANC to perform or perish.

Coalitions
Noone will partner with right-wing mzungu-friendly DA. ANC and EFF are aligned on most things - economics, land rights, Palestine, etc. Expect Malema to join ANC cabinet as land redistribution minister. They are big enemies with Zuma not Ramaphosa.

DA is right-wing and libertarian (pro-business, pro-rich).
ANC, EFF are left-wing and socialist.. ANC is more reasonable pro-business. EFF is full welfare-socialist, gay-hugging hard-left.
MK is left-wing tribal Zulu party.

Sadly none of these will solve SA's gazillion problems soon. The best party to rule would be DA but don't hold your breath. SA cannot hold a candle to Kenya or her neighbors Botswana, Namibia.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2024, 01:21:54 PM »
The loser here is DA, WHICH Garnered a 99% White Vote and about 5% black vote after fronting all kinds of games, including Mzungus speaking ZULU and all the local dialects in the Obama-style campaign. Mzungus better stop dreaming of taking SA anytime soon. I think ANC will have to MORPH into EFF to remain more muscular slowly. Still, if they were to perform, cut massive corruption, end electricity issues, and skyrocketing crime, the old Mandela party would quickly return to 60% + win again. Getting 43% with such extreme incompetency/poor performance over the years means SA and ANC are the same. I think Zuma's MK and Malema's EFF will get a significant share in the coalition Government.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2024, 01:46:18 PM »
The loser here is DA, WHICH Garnered a 99% White Vote and about 5% black vote after fronting all kinds of games, including Mzungus speaking ZULU and all the local dialects in the Obama-style campaign. Mzungus better stop dreaming of taking SA anytime soon. I think ANC will have to MORPH into EFF to remain more muscular slowly. Still, if they were to perform, cut massive corruption, end electricity issues, and skyrocketing crime, the old Mandela party would quickly return to 60% + win again. Getting 43% with such extreme incompetency/poor performance over the years means SA and ANC are the same. I think Zuma's MK and Malema's EFF will get a significant share in the coalition Government.

Zuma vs ANC, EFF animosity is too much, I don't see him joining. They don't need nor want him. MK will remain secluded tribal party.

ANC incompetence and rot is genetic so expect slow, painful death. DA coalition will win power in the future.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2024, 03:36:01 PM »
You do not know what you are talking about. In Municipalities elections, folks will vote DA because of service delivery. Just like we did in Johannesburg. Come national, ANC SHALL prevail including in parliament in cape-town. Take that to the bank. Lekota's COPE tried it and failed. Winnie Mandela failed. Cyril will rule for another 4 years.

https://results.elections.org.za/dashboards/npe/

ANC   42.9%   
DA   23.36%
M.K.   10.28%   
EFF   9.55%

SA Parliament elects the president. You need 50%.
Ramaphosa needs Zuma or Malema 10% to form Government. Somebody here will be paid $1BN USD.

Second alternative is for opposition to strike deal and form coalition gov.That would make billions for zuma and malema.

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2024, 10:57:32 PM »
Young mwafrika are shiet. No agency to vote. With the unemployment they should voice their frustrations on the ballot.

It is even crazy that in Kenya, hasoras who had agency to vote are being ridiculed by buggers who never voted. The jest on 'tugokira tene' rallying call should be the anthem for all young voters.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2024, 12:30:58 AM »
https://x.com/BBCAfrica/status/1796555830717714818

'We want to avoid a coalition with the radical left in South Africa, of the MK party and EEF'.

The leader of South Africa's main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA), John Steenhuisen debates possible coalitions with

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2024, 03:00:17 PM »
Malaya politics. They are ready to overlook ANC corruption they have been singing about.

Likely ANC old timers will kick Ramaphosa out and deal with Malema and Zuma. More umalaya.

https://x.com/BBCAfrica/status/1796555830717714818

'We want to avoid a coalition with the radical left in South Africa, of the MK party and EEF'.

The leader of South Africa's main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA), John Steenhuisen debates possible coalitions with
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2024, 01:24:32 AM »

Zuma to Ramaphosa-i'll oust you through protests.

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2024, 08:38:14 PM »
ANC-DA would be the best for SA. Center-right coalition. Voters would see the better governance of DA who presently run the Western Cape and Cape Town: the most prosperous region and metropolis. The saving grace since mzungu.

Umalaya would be DA-MK-EFF who are oil & water. DA is free-market libertarian while EFF is hard-left wacko socialist.

Of course, the ultimate tragedy is the "coalition of doom" taking shape. The incompetent Ramaphosa, corrupt Zuma, unhinged Malema - this combo would torpedo SA to Zimbabwe slum level. The best party is DA: the sooner South Africans wake up and smell the coffee the better for them.

ANC needs to kick out useless Ramaphosa - if he doesn't resign in shame - his deputy Paul Mashatile is relatively untainted by their nauseating federal failures. Mwafrika needs to acknowledge his incapacity and butt off. I hope they lock up Zuma too for the arms deal scandal.

God save SA!

Malaya politics. They are ready to overlook ANC corruption they have been singing about.

Likely ANC old timers will kick Ramaphosa out and deal with Malema and Zuma. More umalaya.

https://x.com/BBCAfrica/status/1796555830717714818

'We want to avoid a coalition with the radical left in South Africa, of the MK party and EEF'.

The leader of South Africa's main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA), John Steenhuisen debates possible coalitions with
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2024, 08:44:27 PM »

Zuma to Ramaphosa-i'll oust you through protests.

I really hope this PIG is locked up for the many cases lined up in court. These and Kabilas are the barbarians that hold back Africa.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2024, 07:43:37 AM »
EFF rants demands include free services - education, medical, power, etc - on top of nationalisation of land, mines, etc. These communist psycho's would destroy SA.

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2024, 08:59:14 PM »
ANC-DA not happening -  ANC hawk Lindiwe Sisulu won't have it


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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2024, 03:52:52 PM »
The cheapest of them is Zuma. Just give him a 18 year old Zulu virgin and enough money to keep him busy for the next 5 years and the man will retraet to Nkandla.

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2024, 08:50:37 PM »
The cheapest of them is Zuma. Just give him a 18 year old Zulu virgin and enough money to keep him busy for the next 5 years and the man will retraet to Nkandla.

Lol. Zuma's key demand is immunity from prosecution for his crimes.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2024, 07:43:07 AM »
The cheapest of them is Zuma. Just give him a 18 year old Zulu virgin and enough money to keep him busy for the next 5 years and the man will retraet to Nkandla.

Lol. Zuma's key demand is immunity from prosecution for his crimes.

With his 15% arresting zuma is creating an an ANTI ANC terror group.Umkhonto Wesizwe,I don't think ramaphosa can repeat that knowing very well people may come for him after he exits power.

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2024, 08:21:23 AM »
The cheapest of them is Zuma. Just give him a 18 year old Zulu virgin and enough money to keep him busy for the next 5 years and the man will retraet to Nkandla.

Lol. Zuma's key demand is immunity from prosecution for his crimes.

With his 15% arresting zuma is creating an an ANTI ANC terror group.Umkhonto Wesizwe,I don't think ramaphosa can repeat that knowing very well people may come for him after he exits power.

Unlike the DoJ the SA prosecutor is independent. Ramaphosa can only pardon him but cannot stop the cases. By the way even the 2022 pardon was rejected by court - the sleazebag is [illegally] free on medical grounds. Riots in Kondele KwaZulu-Natal do not affect the prosecutor. The courts also banned him from holding elective office so he cannot even be an MP.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2024, 10:32:53 AM »
The cheapest of them is Zuma. Just give him a 18 year old Zulu virgin and enough money to keep him busy for the next 5 years and the man will retraet to Nkandla.

Lol. Zuma's key demand is immunity from prosecution for his crimes.

With his 15% arresting zuma is creating an an ANTI ANC terror group.Umkhonto Wesizwe,I don't think ramaphosa can repeat that knowing very well people may come for him after he exits power.

Unlike the DoJ the SA prosecutor is independent. Ramaphosa can only pardon him but cannot stop the cases. By the way even the 2022 pardon was rejected by court - the sleazebag is [illegally] free on medical grounds. Riots in Kondele KwaZulu-Natal do not affect the prosecutor. The courts also banned him from holding elective office so he cannot even be an MP.

ANC Lost right?

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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2024, 11:40:53 AM »
The cheapest of them is Zuma. Just give him a 18 year old Zulu virgin and enough money to keep him busy for the next 5 years and the man will retraet to Nkandla.

Lol. Zuma's key demand is immunity from prosecution for his crimes.

With his 15% arresting zuma is creating an an ANTI ANC terror group.Umkhonto Wesizwe,I don't think ramaphosa can repeat that knowing very well people may come for him after he exits power.

Unlike the DoJ the SA prosecutor is independent. Ramaphosa can only pardon him but cannot stop the cases. By the way even the 2022 pardon was rejected by court - the sleazebag is [illegally] free on medical grounds. Riots in Kondele KwaZulu-Natal do not affect the prosecutor. The courts also banned him from holding elective office so he cannot even be an MP.

ANC Lost right?

15% is not sufficient for immunity, nothing is, at least SA has this one right. ANC-EFF-IFP is loading.. MK and DA have ruled themselves out with implaccable demands.
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Re: ANC either buys Zuma or Malema.
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2024, 10:50:36 PM »
IFP says it is a deal with DA+ANC. It is all about fake order and stability, market.
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