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Offline RV Pundit

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They made 100B KES the last two years by manipulation of forex.I hope we see record fines.

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They made 100B KES the last two years by manipulation of forex.I hope we see record fines.

https://www.centralbank.go.ke/rates/forex-exchange-rates/


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NCBA made the most; Last year all the banks made 50B kes profit from forex;

Anti-Competition have evidence of collusion through text messages and chats by Banks to fix rate.

I hope to see banks getting fine at least 5B KES.

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NCBA made the most; Last year all the banks made 50B kes profit from forex;

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equitygroupholdings.com/ke/newsroom/24-press-release/173-equity-group-reports-a-record-kes-46-1b-net-profit-and-a-dividend-payout-of-kes-15-1b
https://ke.kcbgroup.com/about-us/news-room/business/kcb-group-plc-q3-2022-net-profit-up-21-4-to-kshs-30-6b
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/ncba-net-profit-hits-record-sh13-7bn-increases-dividends-4177112

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https://tradingeconomics.com/kenya/currency

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The most from forex trade/income moron.
NCBA made the most; Last year all the banks made 50B kes profit from forex;

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equitygroupholdings.com/ke/newsroom/24-press-release/173-equity-group-reports-a-record-kes-46-1b-net-profit-and-a-dividend-payout-of-kes-15-1b
https://ke.kcbgroup.com/about-us/news-room/business/kcb-group-plc-q3-2022-net-profit-up-21-4-to-kshs-30-6b
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/ncba-net-profit-hits-record-sh13-7bn-increases-dividends-4177112

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The most from forex trade/income moron.
NCBA made the most; Last year all the banks made 50B kes profit from forex;

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equitygroupholdings.com/ke/newsroom/24-press-release/173-equity-group-reports-a-record-kes-46-1b-net-profit-and-a-dividend-payout-of-kes-15-1b
https://ke.kcbgroup.com/about-us/news-room/business/kcb-group-plc-q3-2022-net-profit-up-21-4-to-kshs-30-6b
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/ncba-net-profit-hits-record-sh13-7bn-increases-dividends-4177112

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Offline RV Pundit

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Nonsense - free floating currency will rise and fall - just like equities - even during kibaki time - there was a time it rose to 107 - and also dropped to 65. USD are affected by many factors - mostly external.

Today if US lower their base rate - USD will flow out and KSH will strengthen. For now US economy is sucking dollars out of frontier markets like Kenya.

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Ruto should make it is first business to deal with vampire kenyattas
1) NCBA - making a killing from manipulating forex market and secondly fuliza.
2) Brookside - everyone knows the extend they have gone to acquire competitors and block foreign competitors so they can enact monopoly - while also importing cheap powedered milk. LATO milk alone plus empowered KCC & farm cooperative will finish them. Kenyatta blocked 500 cooling units to farmers dairy.
3) Land grabbing - Narok 75,000 acres is the most odius.
4) Grand theft - SGR and many others esp health sector - that have been stashed abroad.
5) Heritage insurance - should pay 4-7B for Aror & Kimwarer dam they insured. Blacklist them from doing business with GOK
6) Gov should blacklist their hotels  from gov - including Naivasha one - this is done - so far gov has refused them business.
7) Any kenyatta business including their media stable - should hear of gov tenders in VIU SASA.
We cannot allow Kenyatta vampires to feast on Kenya corpse. That is why they can afford to bribe Kalonzo with 5B.

Unless Ruto is not serious...after 5yrs...we want to hear NCBA dead..Brookside dead...Narok & such grabbed land returned back...and some of that stolen money returned somehow.

Hapana bembeleza maubwa. Mapema ndio best. Dont wait for long because come election time - they will find human shield to protect themsevels

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Re: ANTI COMPETITION AUTHORITY to investigate kenyatta bank n others crooks
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2023, 10:55:14 PM »
Ruto should make it is first business to deal with vampire kenyattas
1) NCBA - making a killing from manipulating forex market and secondly fuliza.
2) Brookside - everyone knows the extend they have gone to acquire competitors and block foreign competitors so they can enact monopoly - while also importing cheap powedered milk. LATO milk alone plus empowered KCC & farm cooperative will finish them. Kenyatta blocked 500 cooling units to farmers dairy.
3) Land grabbing - Narok 75,000 acres is the most odius.
4) Grand theft - SGR and many others esp health sector - that have been stashed abroad.
5) Heritage insurance - should pay 4-7B for Aror & Kimwarer dam they insured. Blacklist them from doing business with GOK
6) Gov should blacklist their hotels  from gov - including Naivasha one - this is done - so far gov has refused them business.
7) Any kenyatta business including their media stable - should hear of gov tenders in VIU SASA.
We cannot allow Kenyatta vampires to feast on Kenya corpse. That is why they can afford to bribe Kalonzo with 5B.

Unless Ruto is not serious...after 5yrs...we want to hear NCBA dead..Brookside dead...Narok & such grabbed land returned back...and some of that stolen money returned somehow.

Hapana bembeleza maubwa. Mapema ndio best. Dont wait for long because come election time - they will find human shield to protect themsevels

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As you can see,All kenyan banks made FX gains in 2022.KCB I&M and NCBA were best performing.The question is Why?When the Fed Reserve started increasing interest rates in 2022,that meant a strong dollar against the shilling with the elections approaching.Banks hold billions of shillings in cash which means that if you converted 120BN into dollars last year,It would be about 140BN today.Its that simple and the easiest way to do this is to buy dollars from the public.

Infact  today,Most kenyan banks allow you to hold a currency account of your choice.They don't hold  all their money into shillings and give an annualized return of 3% on dollar account which would mean more earnings as the shilling depreciates against the dollar.

Go buy kenya eurobonds in the international market,earn 10 % annually and make more earnings from depreciation.

To put matters into perspective.The USD KES rate was 87 in 2013 while today its 140. If you bought the Kenya Eurobond i think in 2013 worth 100,000 USD,that means if you were earning $10000/860000 annually at that time,Now you are earning $10000/1400000?

Its that simple,thats why nobody wants to invest in kenya gov bonds unless the interests are high.

buy dollar bonds,earn interest and currency devalution.Its the reason GOK is struggling.

These are FACTs.Its never personal.


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Re: ANTI COMPETITION AUTHORITY to investigate kenyatta bank n others crooks
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2023, 11:01:36 PM »
Every currency is depreciating against the dollar. Ask Bolivia.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-10/dollars-disappear-in-bolivia-as-fed-squeezes-credit-markets
Lack of clear Policy Policy Policy is why Kenya is failing.
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Re: ANTI COMPETITION AUTHORITY to investigate kenyatta bank n others crooks
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2023, 01:14:22 AM »
Kenyatta slaves Ruto I hope finish your king n free you.inshallah it will done

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Re: ANTI COMPETITION AUTHORITY to investigate kenyatta bank n others crooks
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2023, 03:55:54 AM »
Every currency is depreciating against the dollar. Ask Bolivia.

Lack of clear Policy Policy Policy is why Kenya is failing.

https://oec.world/en/profile/country/ken
Thats is the problem is POLICY.
How do you create a strong shilling?

 (1) Reducing Imports.Wheat Maize and Palm oil account nearly 15% of our Imports.The moment the goverment invests in water and agricultural value chain and we stop importing these products,The currency gains 15 % Value.

(2) Our oil related products account for about $35BN.GOK.should lower taxes on vehicles with small engines hybrid vehicles and invest in green vehicle.technology with a 15 year plan.That will reduce oil imports gradually and shilling gains another 15%.

(3 ) Investing in local steel industries and stopping tax evasion by multinationals to increase tax collection.

if you don't do that,the shilling will continue to depreciate from 78 in 2002 to 140 today to 180 in 2027 because of poor gov policy.

In view of this,All kenyan banks new the shilling was going to.depreciate because of elections and fed high interest rates and they converted their shillings to dollars.

Why should NCBA hold worthless currency?The work of a financial.institution is to make profit.

When a goverment is led by stupid people who when they wake up they up.they see useless things like brookside or.ncba,citizens are suffocated to poverty...The best thing Ruto goverment can do is to kill broookside ncba and menengai oil.owned by kenyattas and we see whether kenya economy will grow.

Kenya is led by stupid people.very stupid people.



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Re: ANTI COMPETITION AUTHORITY to investigate kenyatta bank n others crooks
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2023, 09:29:31 AM »
Facts moron is that some banks colluded to influence the dollar prices.
This they did by first killing interbank - so they can do monkey games
CBK governor talked of a goldenburg attempt like on forex market.
The 52B they made from forex trading is way over the top.

Now that margins have come down - btw sell and buy - they wont make supernormal profit.

Last time they were doing 120 buys - 140 sells - that kind of nonsense can only happen in banana republic


These are FACTs.Its never personal.



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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2023, 09:32:07 AM »
Moron - the KES was under exogenous attack by US FED sucking all the dollars
That doesnt allow Banks and forex traders the chance to make 20 shs  per every dollar - that kind of arbitrage can only happen in a failed forex market.
Banks should operate within margin of less than 5 shs - not huge spread where they buy at 120 and sell at 140.


Yes kenyatta killed the economy and cannot be allowed to feast on it's corpse.


The dairy sector cannot thrive with Brookside market capture and anti-market activities - we need competition.
NCBA - we need to reign on their fuliza and forex trading.
TimSales - kick them out of gov forest tomorrow
Menegai - we know they are cartel - importing refined cooked oil and selling it for many times - we need to fix that.

Etc etc - Ruto should go hard on Kennyattas.


https://oec.world/en/profile/country/ken
Thats is the problem is POLICY.
How do you create a strong shilling?

 (1) Reducing Imports.Wheat Maize and Palm oil account nearly 15% of our Imports.The moment the goverment invests in water and agricultural value chain and we stop importing these products,The currency gains 15 % Value.

(2) Our oil related products account for about $35BN.GOK.should lower taxes on vehicles with small engines hybrid vehicles and invest in green vehicle.technology with a 15 year plan.That will reduce oil imports gradually and shilling gains another 15%.

(3 ) Investing in local steel industries and stopping tax evasion by multinationals to increase tax collection.

if you don't do that,the shilling will continue to depreciate from 78 in 2002 to 140 today to 180 in 2027 because of poor gov policy.

In view of this,All kenyan banks new the shilling was going to.depreciate because of elections and fed high interest rates and they converted their shillings to dollars.

Why should NCBA hold worthless currency?The work of a financial.institution is to make profit.

When a goverment is led by stupid people who when they wake up they up.they see useless things like brookside or.ncba,citizens are suffocated to poverty...The best thing Ruto goverment can do is to kill broookside ncba and menengai oil.owned by kenyattas and we see whether kenya economy will grow.

Kenya is led by stupid people.very stupid people.




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Re: ANTI COMPETITION AUTHORITY to investigate kenyatta bank n others crooks
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2023, 10:20:04 AM »
CBK is the one which has messed up the Forex Markets by putting restriction/price control  on how much Banks can buy the dollar . They came with the 120. Who will sell a dollar at 120 and expect to buy it back at 140 . Thats where the problem is . Its not so much to do with speculation but its simply doesnt make business sense .



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Banks should operate within margin of less than 5 shs - not huge spread where they buy at 120 and sell at 140.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2023, 02:17:06 PM »
The spread is now OK after central bank intervention..opus dei simply slept or was compromised. His brother the archbishop seems to be kenyatta family priest

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2023, 03:43:06 PM »
Pundit hopefully by now you understand the role of an airline of a Nations economy .
KQ alone is bringing to Kenyas economy  of about $1 Billion from ticket sales alone .
Now add to the fact its mode of transport for tourist and cargo you will see why its amateurish for Murkomen to claim they can let it drown .


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Top firms have started trading in dollars among themselves, with hotels and aviation firms attracting interest from those in need of hard currency.

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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2023, 03:54:31 PM »
Yes I was in Adis Bole Airport...unbelievable what Ethiopia Airline has done..flight take and land every few minutes..all Ethiopians bar one kq or Emirates.