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Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« on: April 09, 2023, 12:26:25 AM »
Kidero and few Luo Nyanza billionaires can look in eye of Odinga and tell them off

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2023, 08:35:54 AM »
Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2023, 10:20:45 AM »
At least nobody is burning and barnished them. Yes, it may take lot more years to uproot odingaism, but clearly Odingas have no replacement for Raila - so that dynasty is facing imminent end - with Raila age.

Ruto doesnt need a single vote from Luo Nyanza. He just need to weaken Raila hold on Luo leadership to allow him to operate in that region and help it develop.

Ruto legacy will be complete once he save Luo Nyanza from Odingaism...same way he has eliminated Kenyattas from GEMA....Moism in Kalenjin.

Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2023, 10:12:37 AM »
At least nobody is burning and barnished them. Yes, it may take lot more years to uproot odingaism, but clearly Odingas have no replacement for Raila - so that dynasty is facing imminent end - with Raila age.

Ruto doesnt need a single vote from Luo Nyanza. He just need to weaken Raila hold on Luo leadership to allow him to operate in that region and help it develop.

Ruto legacy will be complete once he save Luo Nyanza from Odingaism...same way he has eliminated Kenyattas from GEMA....Moism in Kalenjin.

Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.


Ruto will work with Rao eventually. Mark my words. That cooperation (or whatever it will be named then) will declare all these folks irrelevant.
Rao will not vie again. He knows it. His health won't allow him. Ida wants no more of that. His family wants him to play an "elder stateman" role.  They know come  2027 if he insists on running, it will be a one-sided whitewash!

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2023, 01:57:00 PM »
Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.
Agree, I think most Luo Nyanza votes will be under Ruth Odinga as early as 2027-2028. It is obvious Raila will run for the last time in 2027, and thereafter likely transfer his cows to his daughter for another decade or so of circus. I think Kideros and the rest are doing two things, 1, to wrestle Luo folk from Odingas after 2027 major loss, and 2, to be in Ruto's favor after 2027 reelection for Cabinet secretary position. Kidero wants a lucrative ministry to make money and second, to try and be Luo Nyanza Kingpin!
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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2023, 02:05:46 PM »
Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.
Agree, I think most Luo Nyanza votes will be under Ruth Odinga as early as 2027-2028. It is obvious Raila will run for the last time in 2027, and thereafter likely transfer his cows to his daughter for another decade or so of circus. I think Kideros and the rest are doing two things, 1, to wrestle Luo folk from Odingas after 2027 major loss, and 2, to be in Ruto's favor after 2027 reelection for Cabinet secretary position. Kidero wants a lucrative ministry to make money and second, to try and be Luo Nyanza Kingpin!

Ruth odinga is a hard sell. Her own family would vote against her. Odinga dynasty will eventually fall. If he insists on imposing Ruth on jaruo, he will hasten it's downfall.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2023, 06:34:49 PM »
Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.
Agree, I think most Luo Nyanza votes will be under Ruth Odinga as early as 2027-2028. It is obvious Raila will run for the last time in 2027, and thereafter likely transfer his cows to his daughter for another decade or so of circus. I think Kideros and the rest are doing two things, 1, to wrestle Luo folk from Odingas after 2027 major loss, and 2, to be in Ruto's favor after 2027 reelection for Cabinet secretary position. Kidero wants a lucrative ministry to make money and second, to try and be Luo Nyanza Kingpin!

Ruth odinga is a hard sell. Her own family would vote against her. Odinga dynasty will eventually fall. If he insists on imposing Ruth on jaruo, he will hasten it's downfall.
Anything with ODINGA last name is automatic Luo Kingpin, according to Jathes in the US
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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2023, 08:45:58 PM »
Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.
Agree, I think most Luo Nyanza votes will be under Ruth Odinga as early as 2027-2028. It is obvious Raila will run for the last time in 2027, and thereafter likely transfer his cows to his daughter for another decade or so of circus. I think Kideros and the rest are doing two things, 1, to wrestle Luo folk from Odingas after 2027 major loss, and 2, to be in Ruto's favor after 2027 reelection for Cabinet secretary position. Kidero wants a lucrative ministry to make money and second, to try and be Luo Nyanza Kingpin!

Ruth odinga is a hard sell. Her own family would vote against her. Odinga dynasty will eventually fall. If he insists on imposing Ruth on jaruo, he will hasten it's downfall.
Anything with ODINGA last name is automatic Luo Kingpin, according to Jathes in the US

Jaruo in the US know very little on the goings-on or current affairs of politics in Luo nyanza. Something festers in Luo nyanza. On the surface it is not visible, but it is there. Luo's have given up all hope in RAO ever becoming orezo.
RAO is an old Lion with no teeth!

He will cooperate with WSR, to get afew crumbs off the table for nyanza and more importantly to save face. Unless the Lord harvests WSR today, all his avenue's to state house redirect to Bondo or to the grave.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2023, 11:23:02 AM »
Who told you Luo's want to be liberated and from what? Jaramogi's preferred successor was one James "sledge Hammer" Orengo. Raila built his political empire from scratch. Defecting from Wamalwa, Orengo and Kituyi's Ford Kenya to little known NDP. Fast forward, the man is now being referred to as an enigma.

Luo's don't follow one's wealth, or fame, or such idiocy like the Kenyattaism, Moi'sm but rather ideologies, principles, beliefs  and you got to be steadfast and BRAVE. It is for this reason that Raila has more support than his late father in Luo Land. Therefore, Ruto is not invited to liberate us since we are not in any captivity.

The only dude who came close and was being viewed as a warrior capable of feeling Raila's shoes was one Miguna Miguna, the son of Kochogo clan in Nyando sugar belt. He swore-in Raila at Uhuru Park in broad daylight. Something that is treasonable. He's been writing stingy articles against Kibaki's and Uhurutos trialist governments.  A brave man in every sense of the word. But he went to bed with the enemy. Luo's hate betrayers and so his goose is cooked.

That said, RUTO WILL NEED RAILA'S SUPPORT TO SERVE A SECOND TERM AND THE WORKS TOWARDS THAT IS ON-GOING. Deadwoods in UDA and Kenya Kwanza will be elbowed out soon. Diarize this response. And please OPEN THE SERVER if you won fair and square.

At least nobody is burning and barnished them. Yes, it may take lot more years to uproot odingaism, but clearly Odingas have no replacement for Raila - so that dynasty is facing imminent end - with Raila age.

Ruto doesnt need a single vote from Luo Nyanza. He just need to weaken Raila hold on Luo leadership to allow him to operate in that region and help it develop.

Ruto legacy will be complete once he save Luo Nyanza from Odingaism...same way he has eliminated Kenyattas from GEMA....Moism in Kalenjin.

Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2023, 11:37:35 AM »
Who the hell is Ruth Odinga? We are supporting Raila for what he stands for and not the Odinga's. Ruth, Junior, Winnie, Oburu and sons will disappear into oblivion once Tinga retires from politics or goes west. Fidel was the only hope. A very generous, courageous, down to earth dude. He would have made some in-roads and impact politically. RIP

Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.
Agree, I think most Luo Nyanza votes will be under Ruth Odinga as early as 2027-2028. It is obvious Raila will run for the last time in 2027, and thereafter likely transfer his cows to his daughter for another decade or so of circus. I think Kideros and the rest are doing two things, 1, to wrestle Luo folk from Odingas after 2027 major loss, and 2, to be in Ruto's favor after 2027 reelection for Cabinet secretary position. Kidero wants a lucrative ministry to make money and second, to try and be Luo Nyanza Kingpin!

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2023, 11:45:46 AM »
NONSENSE.
Raila use violence to have IRON like GRIP on LUOS.
Something that Jaramogi didnt.
That is my ony difference with Raila.

Raila beat Orengos to a pulp by deploying Kibera goons - transported from Nairobi slums to go intimidate any differing voice - and that violence is now a mainstay.

Let him allow Luos to freely debate, freely differ, etc.
My own family - we have people supporting anything - including UFOS - freely
In my village - we have people who are diehard Kibaki - matiba- jaramogi - raila - kalonzo - whoever anyone wants.
Nobody get killed or beaten.
There are people who dont like Ruto even in his own village.
They are free to differ - go home
98% will vote for Ruto - 2% will refuse.

We want democracy to also flourish in Nyanza.
We do not want to see people houses torched because they support a different course.

Raila has to stop using goons - and that goonism cascading through Nyanza politics from MCA down - where it very violent to differ.

In that sense LUO NYANZA is the very bottom - and Raila has brought poverty and almost all indicators are bad in Luo Nyanza.

Let the freedom rings. Let Luos freely differ without some goons beating them. Let them freely support MCA.

Can Miguna Miguna now go to Kisumu; HELL NO; Not even AHERO - he will likely get beaten. Who will beat him - sponsored goons.

Ruto should not negotiate with a terrorist like Raila.

Only negotiation is he retires tomorrow
Allow Luo Nyanza people the freedom to become civilized.
And all political parties to go there - and sell their ideas.

That is why I am excited with Kidero and Owalo groups.
At least they are now "free" to sell their ideas.

Even if nobody will buy UDA in Luo Nyanza - Let it be SOLD FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELY.

We want to see Miguna in Ahero repeating what he says in Twitter.
Miguna should be free to go to Ahero and say Raila ni TAKATAKA.
People should listen or not - but should not threaten his personal security.

Who told you Luo's want to be liberated and from what? Jaramogi's preferred successor was one James "sledge Hammer" Orengo. Raila built his political empire from scratch. Defecting from Wamalwa, Orengo and Kituyi's Ford Kenya to little known NDP. Fast forward, the man is now being referred to as an enigma.

Luo's don't follow one's wealth, or fame, or such idiocy like the Kenyattaism, Moi'sm but rather ideologies, principles, beliefs  and you got to be steadfast and BRAVE. It is for this reason that Raila has more support than his late father in Luo Land. Therefore, Ruto is not invited to liberate us since we are not in any captivity.

The only dude who came close and was being viewed as a warrior capable of feeling Raila's shoes was one Miguna Miguna, the son of Kochogo clan in Nyando sugar belt. He swore-in Raila at Uhuru Park in broad daylight. Something that is treasonable. He's been writing stingy articles against Kibaki's and Uhurutos trialist governments.  A brave man in every sense of the word. But he went to bed with the enemy. Luo's hate betrayers and so his goose is cooked.

That said, RUTO WILL NEED RAILA'S SUPPORT TO SERVE A SECOND TERM AND THE WORKS TOWARDS THAT IS ON-GOING. Deadwoods in UDA and Kenya Kwanza will be elbowed out soon. Diarize this response. And please OPEN THE SERVER if you won fair and square.

At least nobody is burning and barnished them. Yes, it may take lot more years to uproot odingaism, but clearly Odingas have no replacement for Raila - so that dynasty is facing imminent end - with Raila age.

Ruto doesnt need a single vote from Luo Nyanza. He just need to weaken Raila hold on Luo leadership to allow him to operate in that region and help it develop.

Ruto legacy will be complete once he save Luo Nyanza from Odingaism...same way he has eliminated Kenyattas from GEMA....Moism in Kalenjin.

Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2023, 12:14:26 PM »

The clips are there. It is Raila who was beaten to a pulp by the baghdad boys headed by Audi Ogada, then Orengo's manchette wielding body-guard. They hid Raila under some catering table. So how come Raila won the subsequent by-election in Langata and went on to represent Langata, a cosmopolitan constituency, for 4 consecutive terms? Did he import goons to vote for him?


NONSENSE.
Raila use violence to have IRON like GRIP on LUOS.
Something that Jaramogi didnt.
That is my ony difference with Raila.

Raila beat Orengos to a pulp by deploying Kibera goons - transported from Nairobi slums to go intimidate any differing voice - and that violence is now a mainstay.

Let him allow Luos to freely debate, freely differ, etc.
My own family - we have people supporting anything - including UFOS - freely
In my village - we have people who are diehard Kibaki - matiba- jaramogi - raila - kalonzo - whoever anyone wants.
Nobody get killed or beaten.
There are people who dont like Ruto even in his own village.
They are free to differ - go home
98% will vote for Ruto - 2% will refuse.

We want democracy to also flourish in Nyanza.
We do not want to see people houses torched because they support a different course.

Raila has to stop using goons - and that goonism cascading through Nyanza politics from MCA down - where it very violent to differ.

In that sense LUO NYANZA is the very bottom - and Raila has brought poverty and almost all indicators are bad in Luo Nyanza.

Let the freedom rings. Let Luos freely differ without some goons beating them. Let them freely support MCA.

Can Miguna Miguna now go to Kisumu; HELL NO; Not even AHERO - he will likely get beaten. Who will beat him - sponsored goons.

Ruto should not negotiate with a terrorist like Raila.

Only negotiation is he retires tomorrow
Allow Luo Nyanza people the freedom to become civilized.
And all political parties to go there - and sell their ideas.

That is why I am excited with Kidero and Owalo groups.
At least they are now "free" to sell their ideas.

Even if nobody will buy UDA in Luo Nyanza - Let it be SOLD FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELY.

We want to see Miguna in Ahero repeating what he says in Twitter.
Miguna should be free to go to Ahero and say Raila ni TAKATAKA.
People should listen or not - but should not threaten his personal security.

Who told you Luo's want to be liberated and from what? Jaramogi's preferred successor was one James "sledge Hammer" Orengo. Raila built his political empire from scratch. Defecting from Wamalwa, Orengo and Kituyi's Ford Kenya to little known NDP. Fast forward, the man is now being referred to as an enigma.

Luo's don't follow one's wealth, or fame, or such idiocy like the Kenyattaism, Moi'sm but rather ideologies, principles, beliefs  and you got to be steadfast and BRAVE. It is for this reason that Raila has more support than his late father in Luo Land. Therefore, Ruto is not invited to liberate us since we are not in any captivity.

The only dude who came close and was being viewed as a warrior capable of feeling Raila's shoes was one Miguna Miguna, the son of Kochogo clan in Nyando sugar belt. He swore-in Raila at Uhuru Park in broad daylight. Something that is treasonable. He's been writing stingy articles against Kibaki's and Uhurutos trialist governments.  A brave man in every sense of the word. But he went to bed with the enemy. Luo's hate betrayers and so his goose is cooked.

That said, RUTO WILL NEED RAILA'S SUPPORT TO SERVE A SECOND TERM AND THE WORKS TOWARDS THAT IS ON-GOING. Deadwoods in UDA and Kenya Kwanza will be elbowed out soon. Diarize this response. And please OPEN THE SERVER if you won fair and square.

At least nobody is burning and barnished them. Yes, it may take lot more years to uproot odingaism, but clearly Odingas have no replacement for Raila - so that dynasty is facing imminent end - with Raila age.

Ruto doesnt need a single vote from Luo Nyanza. He just need to weaken Raila hold on Luo leadership to allow him to operate in that region and help it develop.

Ruto legacy will be complete once he save Luo Nyanza from Odingaism...same way he has eliminated Kenyattas from GEMA....Moism in Kalenjin.

Hehe. Looks like members of his clan. The guys look scared stiff. Kidero will not add anything to Ruto's vote basket. Ditto Omollo, Ranguma, Oloo, Outa, Miguna Miguna etc. Are we going to talk about this until the cows come home? Raila is more loved now in Luo Nyanza  than he was  in 2013/2017.

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2023, 12:32:41 PM »
Raila got beaten by KANU goons in Kisumu as he was from Siaya.
And he was still fresh from exile & prison.
When he tried to take over Ford-K from Wamalwa - Bukusu goons beat him in Thika.
He resigned from Ford-K and joined NDP - run for Kibra again.
He cultivated his goons in Kibra - I believe he exported the Kisumu goons who had been overruned by Ogile.
He use to export Luos from Kisumu - to go vote for him in Kibra - via the Train.
His goonism thrived in Nairobi Slums.
Especially when he had cooperation with Moi in 1999.
His goons now had police cover.
Their first operation of violence was in Kibra and Mathare - were they overrun Nubians.
Next goons were deployed against anyone oppose to KANU-NDP cooperation.
Nyongos-Orengos and Mageuzi groups were being beaten - by Raila goons.
Fred Ngumo Luhya KANU goons were now retired - and Raila goons were  beating anyone opposed to KANU.

Then he exported the goons all over Nyanza to intimidate any Luo leader who differed with him..

Those goons or men-in-black run Nyanza politics.

Intimidating anyone opposed to Raila.

Ruto knows it. Ruto intention is to end it.

Goonism - political violence MUST END in Luo Nyanza & Nairobi slums - plus all the useless stone throwing - for democracy to thrive in Luo Nyanza and Kenya.

The clips are there. It is Raila who was beaten to a pulp by the baghdad boys headed by Audi Ogada, then Orengo's manchette wielding body-guard. They hid Raila under some catering table. So how come Raila won the subsequent by-election in Langata and went on to represent Langata, a cosmopolitan constituency, for 4 consecutive terms? Did he import goons to vote for him?

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2023, 09:33:38 AM »
Luo's are many in Nairobi. No need to import them. That said, Luos alone cannot and did not make Raila the MP for Langata. Raila has never been an MP for Kibra.

It seems to you Ruto is the solution to everything. Its registered in your mind. How about telling him on our behalf to rid the world of Satan  :o?

Raila got beaten by KANU goons in Kisumu as he was from Siaya.
And he was still fresh from exile & prison.
When he tried to take over Ford-K from Wamalwa - Bukusu goons beat him in Thika.
He resigned from Ford-K and joined NDP - run for Kibra again.
He cultivated his goons in Kibra - I believe he exported the Kisumu goons who had been overruned by Ogile/OILE.
He use to export Luos from Kisumu - to go vote for him in Kibra - via the Train.
His goonism thrived in Nairobi Slums.
Especially when he had cooperation with Moi in 1999.
His goons now had police cover.
Their first operation of violence was in Kibra and Mathare - were they overrun Nubians.
Next goons were deployed against anyone oppose to KANU-NDP cooperation.
Nyongos-Orengos and Mageuzi groups were being beaten - by Raila goons.
Fred Ngumo Luhya KANU goons were now retired - and Raila goons were  beating anyone opposed to KANU.

Then he exported the goons all over Nyanza to intimidate any Luo leader who differed with him..

Those goons or men-in-black run Nyanza politics.

Intimidating anyone opposed to Raila.

Ruto knows it. Ruto intention is to end it.

Goonism - political violence MUST END in Luo Nyanza & Nairobi slums - plus all the useless stone throwing - for democracy to thrive in Luo Nyanza and Kenya.

The clips are there. It is Raila who was beaten to a pulp by the baghdad boys headed by Audi Ogada, then Orengo's manchette wielding body-guard. They hid Raila under some catering table. So how come Raila won the subsequent by-election in Langata and went on to represent Langata, a cosmopolitan constituency, for 4 consecutive terms? Did he import goons to vote for him?

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Re: Kidero sell UDA - Luo Nyanza will eventually break off
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2023, 09:44:46 AM »
Luos at best are 15 percent of Nairobi.
They have to organize and strategize to win by concentrating votes in certain areas.
In 1990s - almost all Mps in Nairobi imported voters
Kikuyu mps imported mainly from Muranga
Gumo imported Luhylanda
Raila imported many from Kisumu via the train.

Raila brand of violent politics needs to be exterminated.

Ruto of course will finish Raila....he is on his last political days.

Yes Raila long expired - and Ruto is doing the final rites - and Kenya will likely enjoy more peaceful politics with exit of kenya most violent politician.

Luo's are many in Nairobi. No need to import them. That said, Luos alone cannot and did not make Raila the MP for Langata. Raila has never been an MP for Kibra.

It seems to you Ruto is the solution to everything. Its registered in your mind. How about telling him on our behalf to rid the world of Satan  :o?