Biden visit Ukraine

[Nowayhaha]

Dmitry Medvedev

Biden, having previously received guarantees of safety, finally went to Kyiv. He promised a lot of weapons and swore allegiance to the neo-Nazi regime to the coffin. And of course, there were mutual spells of victory, which will come with the presence of new weapons and a courageous people. And here it is important to note that the West really supplies weapons and money to Kyiv quite regularly. In huge quantities, allowing you to earn military-industrial complex of NATO countries and throw weapons for sale to terrorists around the world.

And about the people... It's more difficult here. Recently I talked with people from Ukrainian territories. They reminded me of simple statistics. In 2001, the population of Ukraine, according to the census, was about 48.5 million people (taking into account those who worked then abroad). Then, in 2014, Crimea and Donbass fell away. Then the SVO and active emigration began. Both to Europe and Russia. According to various experts, a total of 15 to 20 million people left. 

Therefore, the population of that strange entity, which is known as the Outskirts, is currently 20-25 million people, no more. And it tends to shrink.

So tanks and shells are important, of course. But people are certainly more important. And they are beyond the control of either the old man from overseas or the gang of drug addicts with Bankova. Their massive departure is the answer to the question of who the future is after

.

[RV Pundit]

Dmitry Medvedev

Biden, having previously received guarantees of safety, finally went to Kyiv. He promised a lot of weapons and swore allegiance to the neo-Nazi regime to the coffin. And of course, there were mutual spells of victory, which will come with the presence of new weapons and a courageous people. And here it is important to note that the West really supplies weapons and money to Kyiv quite regularly. In huge quantities, allowing you to earn military-industrial complex of NATO countries and throw weapons for sale to terrorists around the world.

And about the people... It's more difficult here. Recently I talked with people from Ukrainian territories. They reminded me of simple statistics. In 2001, the population of Ukraine, according to the census, was about 48.5 million people (taking into account those who worked then abroad). Then, in 2014, Crimea and Donbass fell away. Then the SVO and active emigration began. Both to Europe and Russia. According to various experts, a total of 15 to 20 million people left.

Therefore, the population of that strange entity, which is known as the Outskirts, is currently 20-25 million people, no more. And it tends to shrink.

So tanks and shells are important, of course. But people are certainly more important. And they are beyond the control of either the old man from overseas or the gang of drug addicts with Bankova. Their massive departure is the answer to the question of who the future is after

.

There are few souls in Bakhmut yet Russia not taken it..its not about numbers..the motivation of Ukraine to defend their independence is sky high.

[Nowayhaha]

According to RV he is man of the year because of Bravado he shows , Israeli former PM revealed he had secured security guarantees for Zelensky .
Good you have shown Pundits grasps on such matters .Njuri exposed him and we stopped taking him seriously , he is good in googling BBC and CNN but thats about it . Expect more abuses feom him after showing his incompetence on matters defence .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64702548

National security adviser Jake Sullivan - who was among President Biden's entourage - said the US notified Russia about the trip a few hours before President Biden's departure for "deconfliction purposes".

      Noway this folks don't even know that Zelenky bravado all for show. The dude spent two months in an underground bunker only coming out for a few minutes to feign bravery until then Israeli prime minister Benny Gantz got an assurance from Putin that he would not be targeted for assassination. I wish the could ask Saakashvili of Georgia what happened to him in 2008 when he provoked Putin.

       Here are the two stories

   https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-volodymyr-zelensky-ukraine-war-rooms-russia-933kdqg5v

    https://thehill.com/policy/3844606-putin-promised-not-to-kill-zelensky-israeli-mediator-says/

[RV Pundit]

In such matters he is the only one knowledgeable in this field perhaps he has undergone military training . Njuri tries only problem with him is loyalty to Germany affects his objectivity .
Pundit is mouth motor googles alot and doesnt specialize he tries to cover his shallowness in defence and economy using abuses. Politics wise he is okei his weakness is not being pragmatic , truthful to himself and advacing his thought rather than looking at facts .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64702548

National security adviser Jake Sullivan - who was among President Biden's entourage - said the US notified Russia about the trip a few hours before President Biden's departure for "deconfliction purposes".

      Noway this folks don't even know that Zelenky bravado all for show. The dude spent two months in an underground bunker only coming out for a few minutes to feign bravery until then Israeli prime minister Benny Gantz got an assurance from Putin that he would not be targeted for assassination. I wish the could ask Saakashvili of Georgia what happened to him in 2008 when he provoked Putin.

       Here are the two stories

   https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-volodymyr-zelensky-ukraine-war-rooms-russia-933kdqg5v

    https://thehill.com/policy/3844606-putin-promised-not-to-kill-zelensky-israeli-mediator-says/

I dont feel like you have the Critique mind necessary for this subject.

You're generally an idiot..you don't switch brain on and off..you're Intelligent it shows everywhere..if you're fool it manifest everywhere

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Putin kaput

US President Joe Biden makes unannounced visit to Kyiv ahead of the one-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.#TheGreatKBC ^EM pic.twitter.com/njgK9Qea4k

— KBC Channel1 News (@KBCChannel1) February 20, 2023

Can Putin even take a walk in Moscow? :)

[RV Pundit]

According to RV he is man of the year because of Bravado he shows , Israeli former PM revealed he had secured security guarantees for Zelensky .
Good you have shown Pundits grasps on such matters .Njuri exposed him and we stopped taking him seriously , he is good in googling BBC and CNN but thats about it . Expect more abuses feom him after showing his incompetence on matters defence .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64702548

National security adviser Jake Sullivan - who was among President Biden's entourage - said the US notified Russia about the trip a few hours before President Biden's departure for "deconfliction purposes".

      Noway this folks don't even know that Zelenky bravado all for show. The dude spent two months in an underground bunker only coming out for a few minutes to feign bravery until then Israeli prime minister Benny Gantz got an assurance from Putin that he would not be targeted for assassination. I wish the could ask Saakashvili of Georgia what happened to him in 2008 when he provoked Putin.

       Here are the two stories

   https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-volodymyr-zelensky-ukraine-war-rooms-russia-933kdqg5v

    https://thehill.com/policy/3844606-putin-promised-not-to-kill-zelensky-israeli-mediator-says/

I don't need military knowledge to tell putin is struggling..you're here trying to attack me like I am USA and Ukraine kicking Russia gonads.Nov to Feb..can't take over dead Bakhmut. Hehe he.Russia like 89 has collapsed. Growing up in 90s we use yo say someone has given up like Russia..it was Mark of cowardice..I didn't know much.

[RV Pundit]

Putin kaput

US President Joe Biden makes unannounced visit to Kyiv ahead of the one-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.#TheGreatKBC ^EM pic.twitter.com/njgK9Qea4k

— KBC Channel1 News (@KBCChannel1) February 20, 2023

Can Putin even take a walk in Moscow? :)

latest he is travelling on special train

[mankind]

According to RV he is man of the year because of Bravado he shows , Israeli former PM revealed he had secured security guarantees for Zelensky .
Good you have shown Pundits grasps on such matters .Njuri exposed him and we stopped taking him seriously , he is good in googling BBC and CNN but thats about it . Expect more abuses feom him after showing his incompetence on matters defence .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64702548

National security adviser Jake Sullivan - who was among President Biden's entourage - said the US notified Russia about the trip a few hours before President Biden's departure for "deconfliction purposes".

      Noway this folks don't even know that Zelenky bravado all for show. The dude spent two months in an underground bunker only coming out for a few minutes to feign bravery until then Israeli prime minister Benny Gantz got an assurance from Putin that he would not be targeted for assassination. I wish the could ask Saakashvili of Georgia what happened to him in 2008 when he provoked Putin.

       Here are the two stories

   https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-volodymyr-zelensky-ukraine-war-rooms-russia-933kdqg5v

    https://thehill.com/policy/3844606-putin-promised-not-to-kill-zelensky-israeli-mediator-says/

I don't need military knowledge to tell putin is struggling..you're here trying to attack me like I am USA and Ukraine kicking Russia gonads.Nov to Feb..can't take over dead Bakhmut. Hehe he.Russia like 89 has collapsed. Growing up in 90s we use yo say someone has given up like Russia..it was Mark of cowardice..I didn't know much.

    It takes a  lot of hubris to dismiss folks with military backgrounds and educational backgrounds in the relevant fields by calling them you tubers.  Those folks at DPA  open mic discussion I posted earlier are professionals and very knowledgeable in various disciplines so go slow on that dismissive arrogant attitude.

[audacityofhope]

   Wow...You have been brainwashed to the extend you couldn't spare a few minutes to cross check the information but just dismissed it. Can you be an intellectual  for once and only respond to stuff after checking it out. You come across as an arrogant know it all person when you dismiss stuff you don't even understand. Me and Rv Hitter besides other folks here are US citizens who might end up being deployed by law or our families incase this becomes a bigger conflict. May be I should let you know that Iam a US trained active pilot and God forbid if Am even required to fly humanitarian missions anywhere near the ongoing conflict. Am sure like you do that we all want to attend our daughters graduations and weddings instead of dying someone in Eastern Europe. If memory serves me right you lost the bet with Njuri on the Tigrayan warning right??

You call yourself a "US citizen" yet you cannot speak or write good English, you beastly form of Mankind? It is Rv Hitter and I. How on earth did you pass that immigration test?

Second of all when you join the army what did you expect? Ham and bacon? You become a soldier who could die on the battlefield but nay, you are shitting in your pants even before deployment. SMDH! With that kind of cowardice, you give your Kenyan heritage a bad name. Puh!

[mankind]

   Wow...You have been brainwashed to the extend you couldn't spare a few minutes to cross check the information but just dismissed it. Can you be an intellectual  for once and only respond to stuff after checking it out. You come across as an arrogant know it all person when you dismiss stuff you don't even understand. Me and Rv Hitter besides other folks here are US citizens who might end up being deployed by law or our families incase this becomes a bigger conflict. May be I should let you know that Iam a US trained active pilot and God forbid if Am even required to fly humanitarian missions anywhere near the ongoing conflict. Am sure like you do that we all want to attend our daughters graduations and weddings instead of dying someone in Eastern Europe. If memory serves me right you lost the bet with Njuri on the Tigrayan warning right??

You call yourself a "US citizen" yet you cannot speak or write good English, you beastly form of Mankind? It is Rv Hitter and I. How on earth did you pass that immigration test?

Second of all when you join the army what did you expect? Ham and bacon? You become a soldier who could die on the battlefield but nay, you are shitting in your pants even before deployment. SMDH! With that kind of cowardice, you give your Kenyan heritage a bad name. Puh!



  Am I supposed to reply to your verbal diarrhea  above? I dare you to put your credentials out here we compare . Your test of intelligence is the English language? Talk of inferiority complex. And nowhere did I claim to have joined the military. The closest I came to being in the military is going to high school in Moi Forces Academy and graduating too young to join the airforce because I admired flying. What I said is am a trained pilot and in case of a big war its obvious I would be among the folks recruited before your stupid grammatically correct english motor mouth. So grow up and stop mzungu language worship.

[mankind]

That's exactly what Ukraine administration was doing to native Russians within Ukraine border. This war will destroy Europe and western nation if not checked. Military industrial complex is cashing in big time so most likely this will go on for years. UK economy will collapse, Germany economy same thing and France economy. If those 3 falls then it's game over for Europe. Good news for Africa.

Dude, I know a loser when I see one.
Putin miscalculated and has lost this war.
This kind of war needed to be finished in lightning strike.
Like Russia did in Crimea, Georgia, Osseta - it should have been over in few months - then clean up done.
Before Ukraine turn it into protracted battle.
Ukraine is just sitting waiting for them to attack.
30K wagner are dead.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64685428

Russia has not only lost Ukraine war and Ukraine is gone to EU/NATO
It has also lost Europe economy.
Europe are gaining energy independence from Russia.
Ukraine is gaining complete independence from Russia.
US are happy to finance this war as it weakens Russia completely.
US print dollars - Russia has to sell oil to get it.

It is over.
The next stage is to figure out how to handle defeated Russia so they dont start nuclear war.
That is why Biden is in Kiev.
He knows Russia ability to hit Ukraine has diminished completely.

As for battle - Ukriane are smart - the muddy winter was time to recharge/train/get arms
You cannot fight in winter - unless you're desperate Russia.
Ukraine has very tiny forces - just sitting strategically waiting for desperate russian wading through mud.

Spring is where action resume - Russia will be taken to cleaners.
Wagners will be dog tired - Ukraine will have new tanks and weapons - and have rested.

  Ukraine is in dire straights my friend.  The last bastion of their resistance in the Donbas city of Bakhmut is practically surrounded and will be taken over in a few days unless a miracle happens.  With its fall it opens up the way to the border towns of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk and hopefully the Russians stop there.  Nato has admitted they are out of ammunition in the past few days.  Just watch what they said at the Munich Security conference starting with the secretary General.  You keep saying the Russians should have taken over Kiev in the beginning and it is well known that Zelensky despite the bravado was so scared he had then Israeli prime Minister Gantz seek Putins assurance not to kill him. He spent two months in an underground bunker.  I always admire your analysis on a lot of topics but on this one you are feeding on too much western propaganda.  Ukraine will lose or be destroyed completely.  Anything to the contrary will lead to a nuclear war and probably a third world War.

  Here are a few sources if you have time to check them out.
   - Defense Politics Asia ( DPA war)
 -  Weeb Union
- Willy Oam
- The New Atlas
- Scott Ritter
- Col Douglas MacGregor
 Those are on youtube.  If you like reading intead just follow this guy Jacob Dreizen  on the Dreizen Report. He can be brush but very knowledgeable.
 Be  informed not influenced...forgive my typos. It's a holiday so am lazing in bed still.

I agree with you.
This is Russia's Vietnam - slowly it will kill recruited Russians while others immigrate to other countries to get away from the madness. You never attack someone to force them to accept your ideology.
Amercan supply chains will move from China to E. Europe.

   Tell him Patel. Accusing someone of doing exactly what you are doing . Let him watch this interview from a former Prime minister of Ukraine.

   

[mankind]

Millions of Ukrainians arriving in US are automatically getting government benefits like SSI checks. That is a big muscle to rebuild UKRAINE in not time! Putin and Russia will slowly bleed into oblivion. It is extremely hard to go against anything backed by mighty USA. Israel, FOR INSTANCE, would be non-existent without USA! Ukraine, too will thrive going forward.

    Rv Hitter here are your future Ukrainian neighbors now stationed in the UK. Am sure the ones here are not a reflection of the whole people but ......watch below

 

   

[RV Pundit]

Millions of Ukrainians arriving in US are automatically getting government benefits like SSI checks. That is a big muscle to rebuild UKRAINE in not time! Putin and Russia will slowly bleed into oblivion. It is extremely hard to go against anything backed by mighty USA. Israel, FOR INSTANCE, would be non-existent without USA! Ukraine, too will thrive going forward.

    Rv Hitter here are your future Ukrainian neighbors now stationed in the UK. Am sure the ones here are not a reflection of the whole people but ......watch below

 

   

Now you reveal your true color..you don't fear being deployed..you are western hater and invested in the war.This is why you can't be objective and have to look for funny characters on YouTube  feeding off fools like you.In every subject youll find such  youtube characters.Follow mainstream media for news.Russia can't take dead Bakhmut..putin has failed.Since August the only victory was that salt city..it been loss after loss.

[mankind]

Millions of Ukrainians arriving in US are automatically getting government benefits like SSI checks. That is a big muscle to rebuild UKRAINE in not time! Putin and Russia will slowly bleed into oblivion. It is extremely hard to go against anything backed by mighty USA. Israel, FOR INSTANCE, would be non-existent without USA! Ukraine, too will thrive going forward.

    Rv Hitter here are your future Ukrainian neighbors now stationed in the UK. Am sure the ones here are not a reflection of the whole people but ......watch below

 

   

Now you reveal your true color..you don't fear being deployed..you are western hater and invested in the war.This is why you can't be objective and have to look for funny characters on YouTube  feeding off fools like you.In every subject youll find such  youtube characters.Follow mainstream media for news.Russia can't take dead Bakhmut..putin has failed.Since August the only victory was that salt city..it been loss after loss.

   Am not sure I understand you.  How am I invested in the war  again? How did you figure out I hate western  whatever?  Listen dude I check out sources not just follow blindly like sheep. All the folks I quoted in this thread are  smart folks not some uneducated fellas.  The last clip I sent you by the gray zone is by Aaron  Mate and Blumenthal who are real journalists who go on the ground not some bbc chap sitting in an office bureau in Nairobi but writing about a story in Somalia. 

[RV Pundit]

Millions of Ukrainians arriving in US are automatically getting government benefits like SSI checks. That is a big muscle to rebuild UKRAINE in not time! Putin and Russia will slowly bleed into oblivion. It is extremely hard to go against anything backed by mighty USA. Israel, FOR INSTANCE, would be non-existent without USA! Ukraine, too will thrive going forward.

    Rv Hitter here are your future Ukrainian neighbors now stationed in the UK. Am sure the ones here are not a reflection of the whole people but ......watch below

 

   

Now you reveal your true color..you don't fear being deployed..you are western hater and invested in the war.This is why you can't be objective and have to look for funny characters on YouTube  feeding off fools like you.In every subject youll find such  youtube characters.Follow mainstream media for news.Russia can't take dead Bakhmut..putin has failed.Since August the only victory was that salt city..it been loss after loss.

   Am not sure I understand you.  How am I invested in the war  again? How did you figure out I hate western  whatever?  Listen dude I check out sources not just follow blindly like sheep. All the folks I quoted in this thread are  smart folks not some uneducated fellas.  The last clip I sent you by the gray zone is by Aaron  Mate and Blumenthal who are real journalists who go on the ground not some bbc chap sitting in an office bureau in Nairobi but writing about a story in Somalia. 

victory cannot be hidden..neither is defeat.

[RV Pundit]

Mankind, you're wasting your time feeding youtube trolls.If Russia was winning even your village idiot in middle of Kenya will know. Russia only victory was little salt city.Its been loss after loss..from taking over 25 percent of Ukraine to now...nearly 50k dead trying to take over dead city of Bakhmut.

[audacityofhope]

   Wow...You have been brainwashed to the extend you couldn't spare a few minutes to cross check the information but just dismissed it. Can you be an intellectual  for once and only respond to stuff after checking it out. You come across as an arrogant know it all person when you dismiss stuff you don't even understand. Me and Rv Hitter besides other folks here are US citizens who might end up being deployed by law or our families incase this becomes a bigger conflict. May be I should let you know that Iam a US trained active pilot and God forbid if Am even required to fly humanitarian missions anywhere near the ongoing conflict. Am sure like you do that we all want to attend our daughters graduations and weddings instead of dying someone in Eastern Europe. If memory serves me right you lost the bet with Njuri on the Tigrayan warning right??

You call yourself a "US citizen" yet you cannot speak or write good English, you beastly form of Mankind? It is Rv Hitter and I. How on earth did you pass that immigration test?

Second of all when you join the army what did you expect? Ham and bacon? You become a soldier who could die on the battlefield but nay, you are shitting in your pants even before deployment. SMDH! With that kind of cowardice, you give your Kenyan heritage a bad name. Puh!



  Am I supposed to reply to your verbal diarrhea  above? I dare you to put your credentials out here we compare . Your test of intelligence is the English language? Talk of inferiority complex. And nowhere did I claim to have joined the military. The closest I came to being in the military is going to high school in Moi Forces Academy and graduating too young to join the airforce because I admired flying. What I said is am a trained pilot and in case of a big war its obvious I would be among the folks recruited before your stupid grammatically correct english motor mouth. So grow up and stop mzungu language worship.

@Pundit, tell me this one thing: This idiot won't admit to an error that isn't rocket science but that of usage of language and we here can all see the mistake he made. The idiocy is not confined to language alone! Look at his response and how it merges into my post such that it can't be separated what he posted from what I posted. The village idiot claiming to be a 'pilot' (where the universal language of aviation is English) and 'US citizen' has no clue how HTML (which was invented by an American) works! So pray @Pundit tell me how you even respond to this certified low IQ village specimen?

[RV Pundit]

Let me tell you one thing - you're the most idiotic here. I dont care about his English. I care about his logic, thought process, ideas and argumets. You behave like a small kid always focusing on nonsense. No wonder you support Raila.

@Pundit, tell me this one thing: This idiot won't admit to an error that isn't rocket science but that of usage of language and we here can all see the mistake he made. The idiocy is not confined to language alone! Look at his response and how it merges into my post such that it can't be separated what he posted from what I posted. The village idiot claiming to be a 'pilot' (where the universal language of aviation is English) and 'US citizen' has no clue how HTML (which was invented by an American) works! So pray @Pundit tell me how you even respond to this certified low IQ village specimen?

[patel]

Kadudu absence in this debate speaks volumes. I hope she is not drowning in high energy prices. Next winter all indications point to Europe freezing if things remain as they are.

[patel]

Bro, bro what part of Ukraine is back to Normal? Why are Ukrainian not moving there instead of choosing refugee life? 70% of Ukraine has no power in the middle of winter. Thousands of Ukrainian living in train stations...Wacha jokes bro. Atleast Putin has been patient and humane. Russia about to crank it up and tighten the chokehold comedian ataharaa.

Dude, Russia is back to square zero.
From occupying 25% of Ukraine including hitting Kiev - to now
They are back to 2014 when they funded those provinces to start a civil war.
What is now happening - Russia are battling Ukraine - in exact places where Pro-Russia seperatist where battling Ukraine nationalist for 10yrs.
Russia are now like rebels - glorified rebels waging a civil war in Ukraine

Rest of Ukraine - life is back to normal.
The war-ravaged regions been on it since 2014 - now proxy russian rebels - wear russian army uniform.
And Russia are getting hit with sanctions

I recommend you read this Economist article slowly.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2023/02/17/a-year-of-war-in-ukraine-in-maps

Bro that's BS and you know it.  Who seriously quote BBC or CNN fake news??? How is Ukraine winning? Ukraine started this conflict with a population of almost 40 millions. Almost 10 millions have moved to Russia or taken Russia citizenship.  10 millions are refugees in Poland or other western countries most will never come back. Ukraine economy is completely destroyed even if the war was to stop today it will take Ukraine 10 or more years to rebuild to get back to where they were 1 yr ago. Lost generation. Land mass, the have lost eastern Ukraine. Most productive region and my guess Russia will move them to Dnipro river. Today Ukraine is a land locked country they have lost all 3 ports.
The little remaining Ukraine will be another failed country like Somalia or Libya.

Dude, I know a loser when I see one.
Putin miscalculated and has lost this war.
This kind of war needed to be finished in lightning strike.
Like Russia did in Crimea, Georgia, Osseta - it should have been over in few months - then clean up done.
Before Ukraine turn it into protracted battle.
Ukraine is just sitting waiting for them to attack.
30K wagner are dead.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64685428

Russia has not only lost Ukraine war and Ukraine is gone to EU/NATO
It has also lost Europe economy.
Europe are gaining energy independence from Russia.
Ukraine is gaining complete independence from Russia.
US are happy to finance this war as it weakens Russia completely.
US print dollars - Russia has to sell oil to get it.

It is over.
The next stage is to figure out how to handle defeated Russia so they dont start nuclear war.
That is why Biden is in Kiev.
He knows Russia ability to hit Ukraine has diminished completely.

As for battle - Ukriane are smart - the muddy winter was time to recharge/train/get arms
You cannot fight in winter - unless you're desperate Russia.
Ukraine has very tiny forces - just sitting strategically waiting for desperate russian wading through mud.

Spring is where action resume - Russia will be taken to cleaners.
Wagners will be dog tired - Ukraine will have new tanks and weapons - and have rested.

  Ukraine is in dire straights my friend.  The last bastion of their resistance in the Donbas city of Bakhmut is practically surrounded and will be taken over in a few days unless a miracle happens.  With its fall it opens up the way to the border towns of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk and hopefully the Russians stop there.  Nato has admitted they are out of ammunition in the past few days.  Just watch what they said at the Munich Security conference starting with the secretary General.  You keep saying the Russians should have taken over Kiev in the beginning and it is well known that Zelensky despite the bravado was so scared he had then Israeli prime Minister Gantz seek Putins assurance not to kill him. He spent two months in an underground bunker.  I always admire your analysis on a lot of topics but on this one you are feeding on too much western propaganda.  Ukraine will lose or be destroyed completely.  Anything to the contrary will lead to a nuclear war and probably a third world War.

  Here are a few sources if you have time to check them out.
   - Defense Politics Asia ( DPA war)
 -  Weeb Union
- Willy Oam
- The New Atlas
- Scott Ritter
- Col Douglas MacGregor
 Those are on youtube.  If you like reading intead just follow this guy Jacob Dreizen  on the Dreizen Report. He can be brush but very knowledgeable.
 Be  informed not influenced...forgive my typos. It's a holiday so am lazing in bed still.