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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2023, 09:50:41 AM »
Nowayaha you're very idiotic.uhuru was willing to sacrifice at least million people if not for chebukati.That moron is person who should be dealt with..not people like me who speak the bitter truth.kenya is not a nation.It a tribal state. We are 200yrs from a nation.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2023, 09:58:17 AM »

Continue dreaming Violence , Ruto did not premise campaign on Kabila adui strategy of Madoa doa like Raila did in 2007 where he incited people to turn against each other.
ODM tried to trigger the violence in Bomas and it didnt work out . The masses were not moved . If incitement was there that fracas at Bomas snd Serena Conference would be good enough to start violence but for Poor Azimio ODM even their stronghold knew Raila had lost fair and square just he lost in 2017,2013 and when you also supported him 2007 . For many ODMers it was a closure for 2007 rigging claims that indeed Raila lost to Kibaki in 2007

Just imagine if bomas had been rigged then supreme court rigged the violence in rift valley
kalenjins don't need to be incited.They need opportunity. Uhuru was going to cause lots of pain if not chebukati and Ruto.We must make chebukati a hero.Bomas fracas ended before it began..if they had managed to capture chebukati..ohoo boy rift-valley would have erupted..either then or after supreme court..biggest causality would be like 1992..most non kalenjin settled in rift-valley would have been attacked.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2023, 10:05:08 AM »
Uhuru and Raila lost as Azimio , they tried to rig kept Kenya tensed for some couple of days . Still there was no any IOTA of violence . Simply unlike you hero Raila .Ruto does not subscribe to violence as means to meet political ends .
Lets be truthful Raila ran in 2007 lost to Kibaki immediately he asked the likes of you to start violence with NO RAILA NO PEACE  CALL. Same thing happened in 2017 . Thats coz he knew both times he had no chance in the courts . On 2013 he thought he could prove his evidence in courts and was relying on Mutungas court they disappointed him in 2022 he was relying on Uhuru captured court it disappointed him .

Nowayaha you're very idiotic.uhuru was willing to sacrifice at least million people if not for chebukati.That moron is person who should be dealt with..not people like me who speak the bitter truth.kenya is not a nation.It a tribal state. We are 200yrs from a nation.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2023, 10:11:08 AM »
Uhuru and Raila lost as Azimio , they tried to rig kept Kenya tensed for some couple of days . Still there was no any IOTA of violence . Simply unlike you hero Raila .Ruto does not subscribe to violence as means to meet political ends .
Lets be truthful Raila ran in 2007 lost to Kibaki immediately he asked the likes of you to start violence with NO RAILA NO PEACE  CALL. Same thing happened in 2017 . Thats coz he knew both times he had no chance in the courts . On 2013 he thought he could prove his evidence in courts and was relying on Mutungas court they disappointed him in 2022 he was relying on Uhuru captured court it disappointed him .

Nowayaha you're very idiotic.uhuru was willing to sacrifice at least million people if not for chebukati.That moron is person who should be dealt with..not people like me who speak the bitter truth.kenya is not a nation.It a tribal state. We are 200yrs from a nation.
Again we don't know how Ruto and kalenjin nation would have taken a brazen rigging like uhuru attempted. I doubt kalenjin would have stomach it.Its just not kalenjin way.Kalenjin would have erupted like they did in 2007.You can rig Luos but not kalenjin. THESE BITTER TRUTHS THAT YOU CANNOT SUPPRESS WITH CHILDISH THREATS. If ICC could not threaten me from revealing the truth do you think you can.Ubwa.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2023, 10:12:47 AM »
Go arrest Farah here moron

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« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2023, 10:27:58 AM »
Im not threatening you . You are a non factor to me . I find you entertain but thats just about it. If you were a factor to me trust me could have fished you in a second . You just hold different views about politics and nation building. Unfortunately the reality is I cant change that but will always continue pointing out the truths  and facts and also advice you sometimes you go overboard on the violence talk it might backfire .
You believe in violence as a means to political goals , I dont believe in it . A good example is Raila loss of 2007 , he used violence he got PM but overall lost Presidency 3 times .
You believe in tribal regions I believe in Kenya as a Nation where any one can live anywhere in Kenya and earn a living on any part of Kenya.
Kenyan Constitution is very clear on that . Kenya is Unitary Nation and freedom of living and making a living in any part of Kenya.

Uhuru and Raila lost as Azimio , they tried to rig kept Kenya tensed for some couple of days . Still there was no any IOTA of violence . Simply unlike you hero Raila .Ruto does not subscribe to violence as means to meet political ends .
Lets be truthful Raila ran in 2007 lost to Kibaki immediately he asked the likes of you to start violence with NO RAILA NO PEACE  CALL. Same thing happened in 2017 . Thats coz he knew both times he had no chance in the courts . On 2013 he thought he could prove his evidence in courts and was relying on Mutungas court they disappointed him in 2022 he was relying on Uhuru captured court it disappointed him .

Nowayaha you're very idiotic.uhuru was willing to sacrifice at least million people if not for chebukati.That moron is person who should be dealt with..not people like me who speak the bitter truth.kenya is not a nation.It a tribal state. We are 200yrs from a nation.
Again we don't know how Ruto and kalenjin nation would have taken a brazen rigging like uhuru attempted. I doubt kalenjin would have stomach it.Its just not kalenjin way.Kalenjin would have erupted like they did in 2007.You can rig Luos but not kalenjin. THESE BITTER TRUTHS THAT YOU CANNOT SUPPRESS WITH CHILDISH THREATS. If ICC could not threaten me from revealing the truth do you think you can.Ubwa.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2023, 10:36:08 AM »
Im not threatening you . You are a non factor to me . I find you entertain but thats just about it. If you were a factor to me trust me could have fished you in a second . You just hold different views about politics and nation building. Unfortunately the reality is I cant change that but will always continue pointing out the truths  and facts and also advice you sometimes you go overboard on the violence talk it might backfire .
You believe in violence as a means to political goals , I dont believe in it . A good example is Raila loss of 2007 , he used violence he got PM but overall lost Presidency 3 times .
You believe in tribal regions I believe in Kenya as a Nation where any one can live anywhere in Kenya and earn a living on any part of Kenya.
Kenyan Constitution is very clear on that . Kenya is Unitary Nation and freedom of living and making a living in any part of Kenya.

Uhuru and Raila lost as Azimio , they tried to rig kept Kenya tensed for some couple of days . Still there was no any IOTA of violence . Simply unlike you hero Raila .Ruto does not subscribe to violence as means to meet political ends .
Lets be truthful Raila ran in 2007 lost to Kibaki immediately he asked the likes of you to start violence with NO RAILA NO PEACE  CALL. Same thing happened in 2017 . Thats coz he knew both times he had no chance in the courts . On 2013 he thought he could prove his evidence in courts and was relying on Mutungas court they disappointed him in 2022 he was relying on Uhuru captured court it disappointed him .

Nowayaha you're very idiotic.uhuru was willing to sacrifice at least million people if not for chebukati.That moron is person who should be dealt with..not people like me who speak the bitter truth.kenya is not a nation.It a tribal state. We are 200yrs from a nation.
Again we don't know how Ruto and kalenjin nation would have taken a brazen rigging like uhuru attempted. I doubt kalenjin would have stomach it.Its just not kalenjin way.Kalenjin would have erupted like they did in 2007.You can rig Luos but not kalenjin. THESE BITTER TRUTHS THAT YOU CANNOT SUPPRESS WITH CHILDISH THREATS. If ICC could not threaten me from revealing the truth do you think you can.Ubwa.
Now you're personalising knowing you've no ground to stand..eti finish me..ubwa you've been crying to kindiki just about now.Kenyatta see you as idiots and indeed youre..that is why you live  in tenterhooks hoping we can just wipe tribes away...it will takes 500yrs for Kenya nation to emerge.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2023, 10:39:44 AM »
The challenge is for Kenya political leadership to manage the tribal nations and avoid 2007 like meltdown. Brazen rigging is main cause of civil wars in many countries. Chebukati are rare heroes who deserve praise.He saved lots of people. Maybe he saved Kenya. A fragile country in failed state index.Uhuru was determined to wreck the country if not Ruto and chebukati staying ahead of him.kenyattas must be sunk without mercy

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2023, 11:10:03 AM »

I said you are a non factor to me , why should I threaten you , If you are a Factor I would have FISHED you long time ago . I said I find you enrertaining , your back and forth wirh Robina used to be entertaining even though nothing substantial would come out of it.

I have told you not once not twice your violence talk might put hot soup this is an advice , there is a way someone can communicate and imcriminates him or herself.
As for 2007 elections its a fact Kibaki beat Raila and the same was confirmed in 2022 elections . Even diehards Raila concluded Eaila lost 2007 elections some even gave up with politics completely .

Im not threatening you . You are a non factor to me . I find you entertain but thats just about it. If you were a factor to me trust me could have fished you in a second . You just hold different views about politics and nation building. Unfortunately the reality is I cant change that but will always continue pointing out the truths  and facts and also advice you sometimes you go overboard on the violence talk it might backfire .
You believe in violence as a means to political goals , I dont believe in it . A good example is Raila loss of 2007 , he used violence he got PM but overall lost Presidency 3 times .
You believe in tribal regions I believe in Kenya as a Nation where any one can live anywhere in Kenya and earn a living on any part of Kenya.
Kenyan Constitution is very clear on that . Kenya is Unitary Nation and freedom of living and making a living in any part of Kenya.

Uhuru and Raila lost as Azimio , they tried to rig kept Kenya tensed for some couple of days . Still there was no any IOTA of violence . Simply unlike you hero Raila .Ruto does not subscribe to violence as means to meet political ends .
Lets be truthful Raila ran in 2007 lost to Kibaki immediately he asked the likes of you to start violence with NO RAILA NO PEACE  CALL. Same thing happened in 2017 . Thats coz he knew both times he had no chance in the courts . On 2013 he thought he could prove his evidence in courts and was relying on Mutungas court they disappointed him in 2022 he was relying on Uhuru captured court it disappointed him .

Nowayaha you're very idiotic.uhuru was willing to sacrifice at least million people if not for chebukati.That moron is person who should be dealt with..not people like me who speak the bitter truth.kenya is not a nation.It a tribal state. We are 200yrs from a nation.
Again we don't know how Ruto and kalenjin nation would have taken a brazen rigging like uhuru attempted. I doubt kalenjin would have stomach it.Its just not kalenjin way.Kalenjin would have erupted like they did in 2007.You can rig Luos but not kalenjin. THESE BITTER TRUTHS THAT YOU CANNOT SUPPRESS WITH CHILDISH THREATS. If ICC could not threaten me from revealing the truth do you think you can.Ubwa.
Now you're personalising knowing you've no ground to stand..eti finish me..ubwa you've been crying to kindiki just about now.Kenyatta see you as idiots and indeed youre..that is why you live  in tenterhooks hoping we can just wipe tribes away...it will takes 500yrs for Kenya nation to emerge.

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2023, 11:17:52 AM »

Nations are not built by advancing tribal superiority politics .
Just like you , people should be encouraged to move to anypart lf Kenya and Intermary .
Rigging is Railas doctrine , he used it after losing 2007 elections
which lead to violence . He is the one trying to use it now against Ruto . You are talking the same language now as Raila hence reason we call you an Odmer. You prescribe to Raila ideals of regionalism , rigging and Violence . Raila used Rigging claims and violence in 2007 to get Grand Coalition repeated the same in 2017 to get Hansshake . He will not suceed now under Ruto .
Raila and Odmers like you should move on and realise Rigging claims and violence does not make any one a President.

The challenge is for Kenya political leadership to manage the tribal nations and avoid 2007 like meltdown. Brazen rigging is main cause of civil wars in many countries. Chebukati are rare heroes who deserve praise.He saved lots of people. Maybe he saved Kenya. A fragile country in failed state index.Uhuru was determined to wreck the country if not Ruto and chebukati staying ahead of him.kenyattas must be sunk without mercy

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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2023, 11:41:53 AM »
Kenyatta did many bad things but we can't blame everything on him that typically African nyeuthi poor thinking.
European countries have faced worse , World wars that killed Hundreds of millions and other calamities,look at Ukraine and Russia they are still at war but they are exporting us food. If it was mwafrika they will blame this for their failure to develop come 80 years down the line.
Mau Mau gave Kenya independence but we fcuked up down the line

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2023, 11:53:50 AM »

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kenya-declares-independence-from-britain


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Mau mau were defeated in 1956.Their gallantry ended with death of Dedan Kimathi. 4yrs of war.Jomo and gema elite attempted to rewrite history to appear mau mau defeated the brits and won kenya independence. Kenya was given independence like Uganda or tz or all rest of colonies..on a silver platter or as part of US Marshall plan conditions to Europe

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« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2023, 11:57:36 AM »

https://www.mondayfeelings.com/independence-of-kenya/

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The Mau Mau was defeated in 1956 with the death of its leader Dedan Kimathi. But the legacy of the revolution led Kenya to its independence in 1963.
Mau mau were defeated in 1956.Their gallantry ended with death of Dedan Kimathi. 4yrs of war.Jomo and gema elite attempted to rewrite history to appear mau mau defeated the brits and won kenya independence. Kenya was given independence like Uganda or tz or all rest of colonies..on a silver platter or as part of US Marshall plan conditions to Europe

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Re: Mau Mau listen to how it started
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2023, 01:33:58 PM »

Nations are not built by advancing tribal superiority politics .
Just like you , people should be encouraged to move to anypart lf Kenya and Intermary .
Rigging is Railas doctrine , he used it after losing 2007 elections
which lead to violence . He is the one trying to use it now against Ruto . You are talking the same language now as Raila hence reason we call you an Odmer. You prescribe to Raila ideals of regionalism , rigging and Violence . Raila used Rigging claims and violence in 2007 to get Grand Coalition repeated the same in 2017 to get Hansshake . He will not suceed now under Ruto .
Raila and Odmers like you should move on and realise Rigging claims and violence does not make any one a President.

The challenge is for Kenya political leadership to manage the tribal nations and avoid 2007 like meltdown. Brazen rigging is main cause of civil wars in many countries. Chebukati are rare heroes who deserve praise.He saved lots of people. Maybe he saved Kenya. A fragile country in failed state index.Uhuru was determined to wreck the country if not Ruto and chebukati staying ahead of him.kenyattas must be sunk without mercy
When it come to Ukraine..you see election rigging then civil war.You can spend all day talking about me but I am not political player. I am Pundit. Focus on kenyattas,Raila and others.

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« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2023, 01:38:12 PM »
Kenyatta did many bad things but we can't blame everything on him that typically African nyeuthi poor thinking.
European countries have faced worse , World wars that killed Hundreds of millions and other calamities,look at Ukraine and Russia they are still at war but they are exporting us food. If it was mwafrika they will blame this for their failure to develop come 80 years down the line.
Mau Mau gave Kenya independence but we fcuked up down the line
kenyatta uhuru is months from attempting a dangerous move that would have led to civil war.Focus morons.Ruto rescued you from dynasties but you are dying to be enslaved again. Let see if luos will do better as Ruto focus there.Youre hopeless if you can't see just how close kenyattas nearly send millions of poor gema harms way by reckless rigging with kinoti
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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2023, 01:43:37 PM »

https://www.mondayfeelings.com/independence-of-kenya/

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The Mau Mau was defeated in 1956 with the death of its leader Dedan Kimathi. But the legacy of the revolution led Kenya to its independence in 1963.
Mau mau were defeated in 1956.Their gallantry ended with death of Dedan Kimathi. 4yrs of war.Jomo and gema elite attempted to rewrite history to appear mau mau defeated the brits and won kenya independence. Kenya was given independence like Uganda or tz or all rest of colonies..on a silver platter or as part of US Marshall plan conditions to Europe
All countries in Africa got independence same time...after World War 2..US demanded that Europe give up colonies to qualify for Marshall funding to rebuild themselves. They started to prepare to hand over in 1945...Egypt..South Africa..Ghana were first to go.Mau mau only make sense if Kenya settlers were planning to go rogue like Zimbabwe..who cut off London and enacted minority rule outside Britain

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« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2023, 02:21:48 PM »

Since 1997 I have been focusing Raila and his supporters Tinga/Odmers like you. Politics of bereayal Violence and Rigging claims should end . We are tired of hearing Elections have been rigges year in year out.


Nations are not built by advancing tribal superiority politics .
Just like you , people should be encouraged to move to anypart lf Kenya and Intermary .
Rigging is Railas doctrine , he used it after losing 2007 elections
which lead to violence . He is the one trying to use it now against Ruto . You are talking the same language now as Raila hence reason we call you an Odmer. You prescribe to Raila ideals of regionalism , rigging and Violence . Raila used Rigging claims and violence in 2007 to get Grand Coalition repeated the same in 2017 to get Hansshake . He will not suceed now under Ruto .
Raila and Odmers like you should move on and realise Rigging claims and violence does not make any one a President.

The challenge is for Kenya political leadership to manage the tribal nations and avoid 2007 like meltdown. Brazen rigging is main cause of civil wars in many countries. Chebukati are rare heroes who deserve praise.He saved lots of people. Maybe he saved Kenya. A fragile country in failed state index.Uhuru was determined to wreck the country if not Ruto and chebukati staying ahead of him.kenyattas must be sunk without mercy
When it come to Ukraine..you see election rigging then civil war.You can spend all day talking about me but I am not political player. I am Pundit. Focus on kenyattas,Raila and others.

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« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2023, 02:25:26 PM »

You canr revise history . Mau Mau lead to reforms which inturn helped Kenya become Independent . What is it you cant believe a simple fact which even Bazungus themselves state.


https://www.mondayfeelings.com/independence-of-kenya/

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The Mau Mau was defeated in 1956 with the death of its leader Dedan Kimathi. But the legacy of the revolution led Kenya to its independence in 1963.
Mau mau were defeated in 1956.Their gallantry ended with death of Dedan Kimathi. 4yrs of war.Jomo and gema elite attempted to rewrite history to appear mau mau defeated the brits and won kenya independence. Kenya was given independence like Uganda or tz or all rest of colonies..on a silver platter or as part of US Marshall plan conditions to Europe
All countries in Africa got independence same time...after World War 2..US demanded that Europe give up colonies to qualify for Marshall funding to rebuild themselves. They started to prepare to hand over in 1945...Egypt..South Africa..Ghana were first to go.Mau mau only make sense if Kenya settlers were planning to go rogue like Zimbabwe..who cut off London and enacted minority rule outside Britain

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« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2023, 02:29:25 PM »

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« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2023, 02:34:22 PM »