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Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« on: February 11, 2023, 07:25:47 PM »
Like I said GEMA Have Rutos back but its getting worse the battle in 27 is appearing to be worse than 22. Ruto need trend very careful there multiple schemes to make his first 5 years a disaster his opponents are well oiled and don't care if Kenya goes down the abyss. Its that bad Ruto wont have peace. GEMA Needs be united to save Ruto.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2023, 08:08:06 PM »
Ruto has won 2027...he might be unopposed. GEMA should concentrate on how they can benefit from Ruto leadership.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2023, 09:24:32 PM »
We shall defeat Ruto in 2027.He will be the first one term President in kenya.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2023, 11:12:15 PM »
We shall defeat Ruto in 2027.He will be the first one term President in kenya.
Keep dreaming. Ruto will win so big and hand over to his chosen Kikuyu successor in 2032 in a special way.
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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2023, 11:18:52 PM »
or first life president
Moi won twice, Kibaki won twice though through tough dealings, and Uhuru also won twice. The truth is; It is very difficult to dethrone president in Kenya. My brother is a red skillet politically. The 800K GEMA votes he lost in 2022 will be reduced to 100K! The million Luhyas he lost will be reduced to 200K headed My crazy Atwoli/ Mudavadi/Wetangula!
Get used to him the next 9 years or you will get sick!
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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2023, 07:21:49 AM »
Ruto is struggling to bring cost of living down this is partly because he has been entangled in other stuff thats making him lose focus,he had promised February coast of living especially food will go down lets wait, again fuel lets wait for valentines day to see if it will go down,If Ruto doesn't tackle the basics then it will be very hard for him to manoeuvre. Once Ruto can deliver the bare minimum to hustlers then he has an open cheque to do anything  against the dynasties,But he should know them dynasty own a mbig portion of Kenyas economy he has to find a way to outflank them,at the moment he can't go head to head with them,Uhuru is openly undermining him

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2023, 07:23:40 AM »
If Ruto can maintain GEMA and try as much as possible to get votes from Raila stronghold then he will be fine .
The challenge I see apart from North Eastern the other Non GEMARV regions are fill behind Raila.
Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.
As is always the case great leaders have soft underbelly. Rutos is Kalenjin nationalists who think they are in power and its their time to eat . So brazen they are that they are starting fights with everyone . Also Gachagua being ignored by ODM and Raila we are not seeing Gachagua   Effect as it was when he went after Uhuru prior to 2022 elections. Its politically useless to go after Uhuru as he will not be a factor come 2027 elections .
Lets see how the scene will be when maandamano starts

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2023, 07:28:39 AM »
If Ruto can maintain GEMA and try as much as possible to get votes from Raila stronghold then he will be fine .
The challenge I see apart from North Eastern the other Non GEMARV regions are fill behind Raila.
Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.
As is always the case great leaders have soft underbelly. Rutos is Kalenjin nationalists who think they are in power and its their time to eat . So brazen they are that they are starting fights with everyone . Also Gachagua being ignored by ODM and Raila we are not seeing Gachagua   Effect as it was when he went after Uhuru prior to 2022 elections. Its politically useless to go after Uhuru as he will not be a factor come 2027 elections .
Lets see how the scene will be when maandamano starts
Yes exactly Raila has come up with a very good plan you mentioned

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Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.   
This is a tactic to make GEMA just laid back as you say sobthat come 27 they are not fired up,but like mentioned Kalenjin hawks could ruin further for Ruto I dont know how this 5 years will go am seeing disquiet over Ruto replacing Kikuyus and Luos with Kalenjins this doesn't sit well already,but above all Ruto biggest problems is his own Kalenjin.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2023, 07:35:03 AM »
Achana na Pundit he doesnt know why Moi lost 2002 , he thinks ita because Kenyans loved Kibaki.
He also thinks that Kenyans so love Ruto he won with just 2022.
The truth of the matter is because Kenyans have been surviving and not living.
If things continue the way they are right now , it will only take a mlevi like Moses Kuria did in 2019 to say we are being fooled and the tables will turn . To avoid this Ruto need to focus on reducing the cost of living and facilitate creation  of jobs for the youth.
And lets be truthful to ourself , you can see the diehard non tribal driven supporters of Ruto like Njuri and noway are already raising the redflag its because they feel for Ruto and want him to succeed . The tribal ones like Pundit and gout think defending Ruto for any reason will make him prosper unfortunately this is called sycophancy  and always leads to bad ending.

Ruto is struggling to bring cost of living down this is partly because he has been entangled in other stuff thats making him lose focus,he had promised February coast of living especially food will go down lets wait, again fuel lets wait for valentines day to see if it will go down,If Ruto doesn't tackle the basics then it will be very hard for him to manoeuvre. Once Ruto can deliver the bare minimum to hustlers then he has an open cheque to do anything  against the dynasties,But he should know them dynasty own a mbig portion of Kenyas economy he has to find a way to outflank them,at the moment he can't go head to head with them,Uhuru is openly undermining him

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2023, 07:43:43 AM »


Its some Kalenjins giving themselves roles they have not been assigned . Ruto being experienced I believe he hasnt sactioned what the Kalenjin hawks are doing . When I listen to Cheregei and Cheruyoit talking I just shake my head . The other day they were talking of Ruto being a lifetime President it will make them popular in Nandi and Kericho but ultimately will affect Rutos image nationally people will look at Ruto like a dictator which he is not.
One thing I wonder why cant these people learn from Jubilees first term . When CORD was attacking Uhuru it was Ruto defending him . That way it worked . All the defence was left to Ruto , Duale ,Murkomen etc . Right now they have Gachagua Mudavadi etc
Ghe Kalenjin hawks are making the same mistake Mt Kenya Mafia did post 2003 . Ruto having being in those 2eras cant be sanctioning what Kalenjin hawks are doing.

If Ruto can maintain GEMA and try as much as possible to get votes from Raila stronghold then he will be fine .
The challenge I see apart from North Eastern the other Non GEMARV regions are fill behind Raila.
Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.
As is always the case great leaders have soft underbelly. Rutos is Kalenjin nationalists who think they are in power and its their time to eat . So brazen they are that they are starting fights with everyone . Also Gachagua being ignored by ODM and Raila we are not seeing Gachagua   Effect as it was when he went after Uhuru prior to 2022 elections. Its politically useless to go after Uhuru as he will not be a factor come 2027 elections .
Lets see how the scene will be when maandamano starts
Yes exactly Raila has come up with a very good plan you mentioned

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Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.   
This is a tactic to make GEMA just laid back as you say sobthat come 27 they are not fired up,but like mentioned Kalenjin hawks could ruin further for Ruto I dont know how this 5 years will go am seeing disquiet over Ruto replacing Kikuyus and Luos with Kalenjins this doesn't sit well already,but above all Ruto biggest problems is his own Kalenjin.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2023, 07:53:53 AM »
To put it BLUNTY GEMA only care about the economy and anything thats revolves around it,if thats sorted to the benefit of mlima then well and good but if it appears uchumi is taking a back seat and petty politicking takes front seat,things will be not rosy next 5 years as GEMA will just lay back and baba and his group roam the country causing chaos. By the time we know its 27, 5 years are very short.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2023, 08:03:57 AM »
Ruto is struggling to bring cost of living down this is partly because he has been entangled in other stuff thats making him lose focus,he had promised February coast of living especially food will go down lets wait, again fuel lets wait for valentines day to see if it will go down,If Ruto doesn't tackle the basics then it will be very hard for him to manoeuvre. Once Ruto can deliver the bare minimum to hustlers then he has an open cheque to do anything  against the dynasties,But he should know them dynasty own a mbig portion of Kenyas economy he has to find a way to outflank them,at the moment he can't go head to head with them,Uhuru is openly undermining him
you do realise next election is 5yrs away...what is happening now will be forgotten by then.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2023, 08:07:30 AM »


Its some Kalenjins giving themselves roles they have not been assigned . Ruto being experienced I believe he hasnt sactioned what the Kalenjin hawks are doing . When I listen to Cheregei and Cheruyoit talking I just shake my head . The other day they were talking of Ruto being a lifetime President it will make them popular in Nandi and Kericho but ultimately will affect Rutos image nationally people will look at Ruto like a dictator which he is not.
One thing I wonder why cant these people learn from Jubilees first term . When CORD was attacking Uhuru it was Ruto defending him . That way it worked . All the defence was left to Ruto , Duale ,Murkomen etc . Right now they have Gachagua Mudavadi etc
Ghe Kalenjin hawks are making the same mistake Mt Kenya Mafia did post 2003 . Ruto having being in those 2eras cant be sanctioning what Kalenjin hawks are doing.

If Ruto can maintain GEMA and try as much as possible to get votes from Raila stronghold then he will be fine .
The challenge I see apart from North Eastern the other Non GEMARV regions are fill behind Raila.
Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.
As is always the case great leaders have soft underbelly. Rutos is Kalenjin nationalists who think they are in power and its their time to eat . So brazen they are that they are starting fights with everyone . Also Gachagua being ignored by ODM and Raila we are not seeing Gachagua   Effect as it was when he went after Uhuru prior to 2022 elections. Its politically useless to go after Uhuru as he will not be a factor come 2027 elections .
Lets see how the scene will be when maandamano starts
Yes exactly Raila has come up with a very good plan you mentioned

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Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.   
This is a tactic to make GEMA just laid back as you say sobthat come 27 they are not fired up,but like mentioned Kalenjin hawks could ruin further for Ruto I dont know how this 5 years will go am seeing disquiet over Ruto replacing Kikuyus and Luos with Kalenjins this doesn't sit well already,but above all Ruto biggest problems is his own Kalenjin.
Ruto is too brilliant to lose 2027.Yes after 2027 many will want term limits removed. Ruto will have to resist or not.The best way is for Gachagua to step up as national leader.He seem to have recovered lately from foot in the mouth disease. Ruto cannot lose in 2027.Impossible is the word.The new leaders will have to step up...I am putting my money on Sakaja ..is ability to work with everyone  and survive Nairobi

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2023, 08:11:47 AM »
To put it BLUNTY GEMA only care about the economy and anything thats revolves around it,if thats sorted to the benefit of mlima then well and good but if it appears uchumi is taking a back seat and petty politicking takes front seat,things will be not rosy next 5 years as GEMA will just lay back and baba and his group roam the country causing chaos. By the time we know its 27, 5 years are very short.

Kibaki took that approach and got us to civil war.Ruto will demolish Azimio until its of no threat while dealing with economy.Right now jubilee is dead..next is to finish odm..them finish kalonzo wiper. By 2027 Ruto will be facing very weak opposition.Ruto will be landing in luo and Ukambani vert soon..to have both Raila abd kalonzo ousted by new leaders.Create trouble there. Baluhya are okay...all are inside the tent.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2023, 02:00:50 PM »


Its some Kalenjins giving themselves roles they have not been assigned . Ruto being experienced I believe he hasnt sactioned what the Kalenjin hawks are doing . When I listen to Cheregei and Cheruyoit talking I just shake my head . The other day they were talking of Ruto being a lifetime President it will make them popular in Nandi and Kericho but ultimately will affect Rutos image nationally people will look at Ruto like a dictator which he is not.
One thing I wonder why cant these people learn from Jubilees first term . When CORD was attacking Uhuru it was Ruto defending him . That way it worked . All the defence was left to Ruto , Duale ,Murkomen etc . Right now they have Gachagua Mudavadi etc
Ghe Kalenjin hawks are making the same mistake Mt Kenya Mafia did post 2003 . Ruto having being in those 2eras cant be sanctioning what Kalenjin hawks are doing.

If Ruto can maintain GEMA and try as much as possible to get votes from Raila stronghold then he will be fine .
The challenge I see apart from North Eastern the other Non GEMARV regions are fill behind Raila.
Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.
As is always the case great leaders have soft underbelly. Rutos is Kalenjin nationalists who think they are in power and its their time to eat . So brazen they are that they are starting fights with everyone . Also Gachagua being ignored by ODM and Raila we are not seeing Gachagua   Effect as it was when he went after Uhuru prior to 2022 elections. Its politically useless to go after Uhuru as he will not be a factor come 2027 elections .
Lets see how the scene will be when maandamano starts
Yes exactly Raila has come up with a very good plan you mentioned

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Raila has also changed his politics he is not antagonizing GEMA which is not firing up GEMA.   
This is a tactic to make GEMA just laid back as you say sobthat come 27 they are not fired up,but like mentioned Kalenjin hawks could ruin further for Ruto I dont know how this 5 years will go am seeing disquiet over Ruto replacing Kikuyus and Luos with Kalenjins this doesn't sit well already,but above all Ruto biggest problems is his own Kalenjin.
Ruto is too brilliant to lose 2027.Yes after 2027 many will want term limits removed. Ruto will have to resist or not.The best way is for Gachagua to step up as national leader.He seem to have recovered lately from foot in the mouth disease. Ruto cannot lose in 2027.Impossible is the word.The new leaders will have to step up...I am putting my money on Sakaja ..is ability to work with everyone  and survive Nairobi

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2023, 03:22:10 PM »
50 plus 1 in referendum is chicken shiet if Ruto wants it..its too early but post 2027...its a real possibility. Ruto will have to reject it but many will try to force it on him especially if no one measures up.Ruto will be merely 60yrs....maybe east Africa federation will be there....otherwise after ruto crushes all his opponents.Referendum will be done by THE PEOPLE...it could be anyone. Its way too early but don't rule out.

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Re: Ruto survival need in 2027 for GEMA To vote him more than 90%
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2024, 03:40:09 PM »
Njuri schooled Pundit but wouldnt listen , who is laughing now ?


Ruto is struggling to bring cost of living down this is partly because he has been entangled in other stuff thats making him lose focus,he had promised February coast of living especially food will go down lets wait, again fuel lets wait for valentines day to see if it will go down,If Ruto doesn't tackle the basics then it will be very hard for him to manoeuvre. Once Ruto can deliver the bare minimum to hustlers then he has an open cheque to do anything  against the dynasties,But he should know them dynasty own a mbig portion of Kenyas economy he has to find a way to outflank them,at the moment he can't go head to head with them,Uhuru is openly undermining him