Who is Buying a Bank ? Kenya Kuna Vituko

[Nowayhaha]

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He now wants to buy a bank 🏦! We are in for a rude ride ….

— Sen. Ledama Olekina (@ledamalekina) January 18, 2023

[KenyanPlato]

Ruto is. his wife has a table banking thing going on. Now ruto is going big. Financial services is where the munono ya kenya is at. Kid will be rich style ya Moi.

[RV Pundit]

Only vituko is Nowayhaha joining odm

[Georgesoros]

WHY???
A great leader should not be a Trump - engaged in business, rather the business of leading people.

[KenyanPlato]

WHY???
A great leader should not be a Trump - engaged in business, rather the business of leading people.

it is kenya. he can do both as is the tradition

[Nowayhaha]

Im not an Odmer , you are by heart. I dont subscribe ro their ideals , you do .
I mean If it Ruto no worries , All 4 prior Kenyan Presidents had interests in Banks . 
If Ruto wants to own a bank he should do it through proxies like Kibaki .Uhuru was lucky by capturing Safaricom and everything related to Mpesa. Mois was a disaster for any bank he tried to own with Biwott and Co collapsed .
If he comes up openly that he is getting a bank it will be used against him in a deadly manner. People revolted against Uhuru coz he was shouting Ruto ni mwizi while he was the one looting openly and it became an open secret with his banks , KQ and several projects in the air.  Is Ruto taking the same steps ? You continue pretending to defend him a bad move is a bad move .

Only vituko is Nowayhaha joining odm

[RV Pundit]

Im not an Odmer , you are by heart. I dont subscribe ro their ideals , you do .
I mean If it Ruto no worries , All 4 prior Kenyan Presidents had interests in Banks . 
If Ruto wants to own a bank he should do it through proxies like Kibaki .Uhuru was lucky by capturing Safaricom and everything related to Mpesa. Mois was a disaster for any bank he tried to own with Biwott and Co collapsed .
If he comes up openly that he is getting a bank it will be used against him in a deadly manner. People revolted against Uhuru coz he was shouting Ruto ni mwizi while he was the one looting openly and it became an open secret with his banks , KQ and several projects in the air.  Is Ruto taking the same steps ? You continue pretending to defend him a bad move is a bad move .

Only vituko is Nowayhaha joining odm

I don't respond to nonsense from ledama without any facts.Youre well on your way to joining him peddle rumours. Why do you need a bank to launder money in 2023...Ruto has survived without one..this far.Again there will be usual rumours that Ruto is corrupt bla bla but only clear evidence will suffice..not baseless rumours meant to divert attention from Bomas.Most money laundering will happen through Mauritius...than any other country..this been the deal since kibaki era

[Nowayhaha]

You have just been told Rutos modus operandi by Lewela. You need Banks to plunder big money.
Kenyan politics is all about money so yes I do understand why Ruto would be going that route.
However he should learn from the likes of Putin use proxies and most important thing is revive economy and create wealth and jobs.
Taxing the poor and using that money in unproductive ways like settling and debt and enriching new elite money is not a solution.
If he was taxing the super rich and using that money to lend hustlers to start saccos thats a whole different situation.
I hope you understand where Im coming from Kibakis support for Equity and reviving KCB made them what they are is giants in East Africa that was commendable , Ruto should emulate this rather than do what Moi and Biwott were doing in 90s .

Im not an Odmer , you are by heart. I dont subscribe ro their ideals , you do .
I mean If it Ruto no worries , All 4 prior Kenyan Presidents had interests in Banks . 
If Ruto wants to own a bank he should do it through proxies like Kibaki .Uhuru was lucky by capturing Safaricom and everything related to Mpesa. Mois was a disaster for any bank he tried to own with Biwott and Co collapsed .
If he comes up openly that he is getting a bank it will be used against him in a deadly manner. People revolted against Uhuru coz he was shouting Ruto ni mwizi while he was the one looting openly and it became an open secret with his banks , KQ and several projects in the air.  Is Ruto taking the same steps ? You continue pretending to defend him a bad move is a bad move .

Only vituko is Nowayhaha joining odm

I don't respond to nonsense from ledama without any facts.Youre well on your way to joining him peddle rumours. Why do you need a bank to launder money in 2023...Ruto has survived without one..this far.

[RV Pundit]

The Ruto I know publicly want to transform kenya - not to plunder it. I am not sure why you feel the need to bring tribalism into this - of our thief was better than your thief.

I believe Ruto needed money to ascend power - so he can transform kenya - and become something great than just a rich president. It was a means to an end. Not the end goal.

I dont think Uhuru or Moi lived happily thereafter with all the money - zero respect/legacy - rejection by their own people. Moi died bitter. Uhuru will die bitter.

Ruto should focus on transforming kenya - he will be richer than way - than if he was to plunder kenya, sink the economy like ufool and end up in shame.

Post retirement - he will be hailed as the father of modern kenya - will be respected globally - and that should really be his aim. How much money is enough?

You have just been told Rutos modus operandi by Lewela. You need Banks to plunder big money.
Kenyan politics is all about money so yes I do understand why Ruto would be going that route.
However he should learn from the likes of Putin use proxies and most important thing is revive economy and create wealth and jobs.
Taxing the poor and using that money in unproductive ways like settling and debt and enriching new elite money is not a solution.
If he was taxing the super rich and using that money to lend hustlers to start saccos thats a whole different situation.
I hope you understand where Im coming from Kibakis support for Equity and reviving KCB made them what they are is giants in East Africa that was commendable , Ruto should emulate this rather than do what Moi and Biwott were doing in 90s .

[Nowayhaha]

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/oxfam-uhuru-kenyatta-s-family-four-others-richer-than-22-million-people-combined-4090746

[Nowayhaha]

I look at politics from prism of reality and pragmatism . Im not a theorist like you . Yes Ruto will want to recoup and get some more money to use for his reelection bid in 2027 . This include buying Mps to pass favorable laws ,biddings and campaign money for 2027 including buying politicians . He needs more money now than he needed when coming up and yes he is bound to get it.
My point is he needs to also ensure he revives the economy and resolve joblessness issue. If he focuses on the latter it will be a guarantee for relection and will need less money for his 2027 project. If he focuses on getting money it will not be definite he will be re-elected. 
Where is tribalism coming in ? When I say uhurus  looted then its fine but when I mention Moi looted it becomes tribalism . Then you say you are not a Moist ?

The Ruto I know publicly want to transform kenya - not to plunder it. I am not sure why you feel the need to bring tribalism into this - of our thief was better than your thief.

I believe Ruto needed money to ascend power - so he can transform kenya - and become something great than just a rich president. It was a means to an end. Not the end goal.

I dont think Uhuru or Moi lived happily thereafter with all the money - zero respect/legacy - rejection by their own people. Moi died bitter. Uhuru will die bitter.

Ruto should focus on transforming kenya - he will be richer than way - than if he was to plunder kenya, sink the economy like ufool and end up in shame.

Post retirement - he will be hailed as the father of modern kenya - will be respected globally - and that should really be his aim. How much money is enough?

You have just been told Rutos modus operandi by Lewela. You need Banks to plunder big money.
Kenyan politics is all about money so yes I do understand why Ruto would be going that route.
However he should learn from the likes of Putin use proxies and most important thing is revive economy and create wealth and jobs.
Taxing the poor and using that money in unproductive ways like settling and debt and enriching new elite money is not a solution.
If he was taxing the super rich and using that money to lend hustlers to start saccos thats a whole different situation.
I hope you understand where Im coming from Kibakis support for Equity and reviving KCB made them what they are is giants in East Africa that was commendable , Ruto should emulate this rather than do what Moi and Biwott were doing in 90s .

[RV Pundit]

I am not going to engage is which thieving in better or not.
Moi was thief just like Kibaki and uhuru - but end of day - Kibaki might look slightly better than two.
Kibaki handed a thriving economy - Moi and Uhuru brought kenya economy to its knees.

That is their true legacy. Both had their successor and politics rejected by kenyans in 2002 and 2022. A clear indictment of their misrule.

Ruto should concentrate on transforming kenya.
He is politically unchallenged for the next decade.

Ruto should definitely benefit from growth of economy just like you and me.

If economy grows - he should similarly grow his wealth - by investing in growth sectors.

If we start discussing how to steal "better" - we have lost the plot

I look at politics from prism of reality and pragmatism . Im not a theorist like you . Yes Ruto will want to recoup and get some more money to use for his reelection bid in 2027 . This include buying Mps to pass favorable laws ,biddings and campaign money for 2027 including buying politicians . He needs more money now than he needed when coming up and yes he is bound to get it.
My point is he needs to also ensure he revives the economy and resolve joblessness issue. If he focuses on the latter it will be a guarantee for relection and will need less money for his 2027 project. If he focuses on getting money it will not be definite he will be re-elected. 
Where is tribalism coming in ? When I say uhurus  looted then its fine but when I mention Moi looted it becomes tribalism . Then you say you are not a Moist ?

[Nowayhaha]

You were trying to insinuate that Iam a tribalist , i just gave you an example of Uhuru and Moi . I didnt bring a topic of who still better they are both looters and they didnt  loot for their tribes  .
So whats the bone of contention when you echo what im saying that Ruto will try to get his investment back but he should also focus on reviving Kenyas economy and tackle joblessness . If he gets that right he will have an easy ride come 2027 if he gets that wrong he will have a tough time come 2027 . If he wants to recoup money owning a bank is not the right route , this will be used against him politically .

I am not going to engage is which thieving in better or not.
Moi was thief just like Kibaki and uhuru - but end of day - Kibaki might look slightly better than two.
Kibaki handed a thriving economy - Moi and Uhuru brought kenya economy to its knees.

That is their true legacy. Both had their successor and politics rejected by kenyans in 2002 and 2022. A clear indictment of their misrule.

Ruto should concentrate on transforming kenya.
He is politically unchallenged for the next decade.

Ruto should definitely benefit from growth of economy just like you and me.

If economy grows - he should similarly grow his wealth - by investing in growth sectors.

If we start discussing how to steal "better" - we have lost the plot

I look at politics from prism of reality and pragmatism . Im not a theorist like you . Yes Ruto will want to recoup and get some more money to use for his reelection bid in 2027 . This include buying Mps to pass favorable laws ,biddings and campaign money for 2027 including buying politicians . He needs more money now than he needed when coming up and yes he is bound to get it.
My point is he needs to also ensure he revives the economy and resolve joblessness issue. If he focuses on the latter it will be a guarantee for relection and will need less money for his 2027 project. If he focuses on getting money it will not be definite he will be re-elected. 
Where is tribalism coming in ? When I say uhurus  looted then its fine but when I mention Moi looted it becomes tribalism . Then you say you are not a Moist ?

[RV Pundit]

RUTO should legitimately grow his wealth...looting will always end badly

[Kadudu]

What is legitimate in Kenya? Did he aquire his wealth legitimately?

RUTO should legitimately grow his wealth...looting will always end badly

[RV Pundit]

As far as I know yes.

What is legitimate in Kenya? Did he aquire his wealth legitimately?

RUTO should legitimately grow his wealth...looting will always end badly