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Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« on: December 15, 2022, 08:59:50 AM »
https://nation.africa/kenya/business/kenya-offers-us-investors-a-controlling-stake-in-kq--4055482

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2022, 09:13:46 AM »
They should try selling it to middle eastern country like qatar - they seem to have a lot of money to waste considering their worldcup extravagance.

KQ should copy the Swiss Airline - who do lot of business just connecting flights in Europe.

KQ should not fly outside Africa except cargo planes - get someone like Qatar to do that - then focus on Africa.

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2022, 09:27:29 AM »
U.S. is nolonger interested in Civil aviation . Their focus now is on Military aviation.
They will never touch KQ because they know the underhand deals there.
The initial idea of nationalizing KQ was the best the only problem it would be run like a parastatal and the likes of Murkomen coming in Transport ministry would really kill it in a matter of seconds.

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2022, 09:46:19 AM »
KQ deserve to die so we can use the money in other ways. KK promised to give it two more years. They either fly or die. Gov should make it clear that they are not going to receive any more funding after two years.

KQ need to right size and down size - they can become Jambo Jet - regionally - and grow organically again.

U.S. is nolonger interested in Civil aviation . Their focus now is on Military aviation.
They will never touch KQ because they know the underhand deals there.
The initial idea of nationalizing KQ was the best the only problem it would be run like a parastatal and the likes of Murkomen coming in Transport ministry would really kill it in a matter of seconds.

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2022, 08:40:19 PM »
Delta Airlines?

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2022, 09:21:01 PM »

Dont wet dream, the best Delta can do is conslutancy work and perhaps relook at the code sharing. About putting capital sahau. Take this to the bank.

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2022, 12:03:48 AM »
Code sharing will be nice; many americans visit africa now and dont want to go through Europe if KQ can nail it;

Dont wet dream, the best Delta can do is conslutancy work and perhaps relook at the code sharing. About putting capital sahau. Take this to the bank.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2022, 03:10:22 AM »

Depends on the type of agreement , Delta have the full coverage of U.S. 
KQ has only JFK most East Africans are not interested with JFK meaning KQ could end up carrying 80 % of Delta passengers and end up being skewed like they had with KLM  and Amsterdam route.
Ruto should go slow on PR , he should let the experts do the deals and the talking . If you reread the tweet you can clearly see its just but smokescreen. Kibaki did alittle  talking and was the reason KQ was a success because he let the experts do their work, Ruto shiuld borrow a leaf .

Code sharing will be nice; many americans visit africa now and dont want to go through Europe if KQ can nail it;

Dont wet dream, the best Delta can do is conslutancy work and perhaps relook at the code sharing. About putting capital sahau. Take this to the bank.

Delta Airlines?

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2022, 03:56:10 AM »
You think meeting with delta just happen - and no groundwork has been done? KQ is in dire situation; it cannot be left alone; You only leave it alone once it can fly;

KQ crushed in 2012 under Kibaki watch. Moi did privatization in 1995.


Depends on the type of agreement , Delta have the full coverage of U.S. 
KQ has only JFK most East Africans are not interested with JFK meaning KQ could end up carrying 80 % of Delta passengers and end up being skewed like they had with KLM  and Amsterdam route.
Ruto should go slow on PR , he should let the experts do the deals and the talking . If you reread the tweet you can clearly see its just but smokescreen. Kibaki did alittle  talking and was the reason KQ was a success because he let the experts do their work, Ruto shiuld borrow a leaf .

Code sharing will be nice; many americans visit africa now and dont want to go through Europe if KQ can nail it;

Dont wet dream, the best Delta can do is conslutancy work and perhaps relook at the code sharing. About putting capital sahau. Take this to the bank.

Delta Airlines?

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2022, 03:58:44 AM »
KQ was fine - until Muhoho and Naikuni messed it up

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2022, 04:11:12 AM »
Look like Ruto has tapped the Brilliant Ethiopian who turn-around ET

Interesting to see Tewolde Gebremariam , the former CEO of Ethiopian Airlines at a Presidential-level meeting with investors on the future of Kenya Airways.
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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2022, 04:15:26 AM »
I am not sure if he is working for Delta or Kenya but would be a steal if kenya got him. It appears he retired this year citing health reason - but mostly due to Tigrayan crackdown in Adis I suspect.

That should be the man to be made KQ CEO or Chairman tomorrow.

https://globenewsnet.com/news/ethiopian-airlines-ceo-tewolde-gebremariam-quits-after-37-years/

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2022, 04:27:53 AM »
Tewolde Gebremariam
Senior Strategic Advisor at Delta Airlines. Former Group CEO of Ethiopian Airlines

That could be the man to fix KQ if delta agrees to buy a stake.

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2022, 04:33:14 AM »
Look like code sharing has been going on for some time; so it likely KQ is being sold to Delta airlines - I'd give Delta 49 percent and allow them to manage it. That would be a big coup for Ruto administration in first few months and if they can get Tewolde Gebremariam to come and manage it - that would be incredibly brilliant.

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2022, 05:05:24 AM »
You think meeting with delta just happen - and no groundwork has been done? KQ is in dire situation; it cannot be left alone; You only leave it alone once it can fly;

KQ crushed in 2012 under Kibaki watch. Moi did privatization in 1995.


Depends on the type of agreement , Delta have the full coverage of U.S. 
KQ has only JFK most East Africans are not interested with JFK meaning KQ could end up carrying 80 % of Delta passengers and end up being skewed like they had with KLM  and Amsterdam route.
Ruto should go slow on PR , he should let the experts do the deals and the talking . If you reread the tweet you can clearly see its just but smokescreen. Kibaki did alittle  talking and was the reason KQ was a success because he let the experts do their work, Ruto shiuld borrow a leaf .

Code sharing will be nice; many americans visit africa now and dont want to go through Europe if KQ can nail it;

Dont wet dream, the best Delta can do is conslutancy work and perhaps relook at the code sharing. About putting capital sahau. Take this to the bank.

Delta Airlines?

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2022, 05:06:49 AM »
KQ was fine - until Muhoho and Naikuni messed it up

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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2022, 05:08:35 AM »
Look like Ruto has tapped the Brilliant Ethiopian who turn-around ET

Interesting to see Tewolde Gebremariam , the former CEO of Ethiopian Airlines at a Presidential-level meeting with investors on the future of Kenya Airways.
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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2022, 05:25:59 AM »
I am glad you're nowhere near Ruto gov.
I pray Delta buy KQ and let ET ceo run it.
Ruto would have saved kenya a lot of money.
That is my only interest in subject matter.
KQ go back to being none of my business.
It's only our business because we are using public money to bail it out.
That money can go to CDF or Hustler Fund.

US gov has no airline and likes of Delta are doing great.
Kenya need to sell this dead thing - and we can concentrate on really important things.

Like building schools.

I dont even ever consider KQ when buying an air ticket...just expensive for nothing.


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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2022, 08:51:10 AM »
Yes Im not, but I can tell you something for free, If Ruto and Murkomen listens to the likes of you and return Kenya to Mois era where all National interests projects were failing, They will be home by 7 A.M. election day .If KQ goes down Ruto will go home thats a propaganda fodder. Moi killed Kenya Railways and it took UhuRuto to start SGR after almost 30 years . If Murkomen kills KQ Ruto will never be forgiven coz it will be the end of a National Airline for Kenya. Transport docket should be left for experts and not twitter wajuaji like Murkomen and RVpundit.

I am glad you're nowhere near Ruto gov.
I pray Delta buy KQ and let ET ceo run it.
Ruto would have saved kenya a lot of money.
That is my only interest in subject matter.
KQ go back to being none of my business.
It's only our business because we are using public money to bail it out.
That money can go to CDF or Hustler Fund.

US gov has no airline and likes of Delta are doing great.
Kenya need to sell this dead thing - and we can concentrate on really important things.

Like building schools.

I dont even ever consider KQ when buying an air ticket...just expensive for nothing.


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Re: Can Somebody Tell Murkomen No U.S investor can buy KQ
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2022, 09:49:25 AM »
I think you people need to be speific on what ails KQ

Out of the 70BN annual revenues last year.I think:
3BN went to fuel.
16BN if am not wrong went to aircraft leasing.
The question is how much money went to labour?food supplies? aircraft maintenance? professional fees?
We're these services and goods at market value?

I think the challenge is that GOK owns 48% and local banks 38%..what that means is that the GOK and bank representatives broker goods and services at inflated or unfavorable costs...they take their cut and then GOK bails it out year in year out.its a cartel.

I think the solution is for Ruto to sell GOK stake of 48% and get his 10%management fee.. otherwise I think some thugs makes 5-10BN annually at the expense of tax payer.