Ruto want to create cosntitutional office for Raila, cdf and more women nominees

[RV Pundit]

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Ruto: Change the constitution

Pres. Ruto proposes key constitutional changes. Ruto proposes office of official leader of opposition.

Nomination of more women to the Nat'l Assembly. Ruto seeks CDF entrenchment into constitution.

Ruto’s proposals contained in memo to Parliament pic.twitter.com/6wU6DvS1C0

— Citizen TV Kenya (@citizentvkenya) December 9, 2022

[RV Pundit]

In a memorandum to Parliament, President Ruto proposes an increase in number of nominated MPs; asks Parliament to amend standing orders to allow Cabinet Secretaries to directly answer questions on the floor as an oversight mechanism. pic.twitter.com/CSkdasyJjk

— Oliver Mathenge (@OliverMathenge) December 9, 2022

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https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/raila-biden-invited-me-to-us-i-was-not-intimidated-over-jamhuri-day-rally--4049798

Seems Biden is keen on a handchieth yet he never shook Trump's hand. Mwafrika kienyeji homegrown solutions should be let to flourish organically. 

[RV Pundit]

I would also be hesistant to touch constitution unless absolutely neccessary.

Leader of opposition can be through an act of parliament if need be.

[Georgesoros]

you mean there is no such office???

[RV Pundit]

Only thing we need to fix is 2/3 gender rule. I believe judges can be convinced to delay it further. CDF and ward fund would be nice if they made it constitution. Those are two more levels of devolution that will entrench participatory leadership and democracy.

Anyway Ruto should have avoid this memo - and leave it to come from parliament - banana peel.

[Georgesoros]

Only thing we need to fix is 2/3 gender rule. I believe judges can be convinced to delay it further. CDF and ward fund would be nice if they made it constitution. Those are two more levels of devolution that will entrench participatory leadership and democracy.

Anyway Ruto should have avoid this memo - and leave it to come from parliament - banana peel.

Anthing that is not subject to political manipulation is great. SDF should be law that can not be changed unless it is an emergency.

[RV Pundit]

For now - Ruto should end this debate - and leave it to parliament - to decide - it's politically risky to push it.

CDF can limp on as NG CDF  and besides MPs dont need any motivation to entrech it together with 2/3 gender rule.

Position of opposition leader should be through act of parliament as we are not sure how this will work.

[Nowayhaha]

He will just be taken to court and will battle for years in the corridors of Justice. He fears using the route of referendumn as it might expose his underbelly of him and Raila decide to take different routes.
One of the promises he gave Raila was amending the constitution  where as Raila wanted another handshake too.
Interesting times

For now - Ruto should end this debate - and leave it to parliament - to decide - it's politically risky to push it.

CDF can limp on as NG CDF  and besides MPs dont need any motivation to entrech it together with 2/3 gender rule.

Position of opposition leader should be through act of parliament as we are not sure how this will work.

[RV Pundit]

Look likely to pass - Ruto has held these positions for quite some time

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[Nowayhaha]

Then courts will strike it out. This one will be a tricky one . He wants to use parliament Raila wants referendumn. Referendumn will come with alot of amendments . That one will require a lot of calculation to hack it. Uhuru and Raila couldnt . Another risk is it might create a third force. Constituencies and one shilling one vote calls might reappear .
It took kibaki a civil war to have a new constitution passed and with the referendum Ruto stamped his authority as RV king pin. This one will be tricky.

Look likely to pass - Ruto has held these positions for quite some time

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[RV Pundit]

Yes it unnecessary distraction. Ruto is not doing this for Raila. He is doing it because he is principled and is convinced this best for kenya posterity. But I think he risk creating a monster and should just leave it.

If it's not broken - dont fix it. So Ruto better leave this whole charade and focus on more important things.

The opposition we have is not constructive and are acting out of malice & bitterness - so Ruto should just do the opposition work for his own gov - by ensuring ministers and gov perform.

He needs to empower maDVD to do opposition work by keeping ministers on tight leash. MaDVD should do monitoring, supervisions and keep gov accountable.

Then courts will strike it out. This one will be a tricky one . He wants to use parliament Raila wants referendumn. Referendumn will come with alot of amendments . That one will require a lot of calculation to hack it. Uhuru and Raila couldnt . Another risk is it might create a third force. Constituencies and one shilling one vote calls might reappear .
It took kibaki a civil war to have a new constitution passed and with the referendum Ruto stamped his authority as RV king pin. This one will be tricky.

[Githunguri]

Ruto and Judiciary said Uhuru couldn't amend the constitution,Any attempt by Ruto to try and amend the constitution will be a declaration of war, secession and disintegration of Kenya as a republic.

Katiba ikae Vivo hivyo ilivyo.

The constitution says that political parties must be allocated I think 0.3% annually of national revenue...Azimio will receive more than 500MN each financial year in the next 5 years...that is like 50MN annually,enough to finance the office of the parties in opposition,pay research teams,media and logistics.Apart from that,Raila and Kalonxo receive millions of shillings from their over 20 Governors on a monthly basis.There is enough funding for opposition not counting even membership fees.

Any political thruggery by Ruto/gachagua ought to be vehemently opposed.

[RV Pundit]

President cannot use popular amendment.
President like anyone can petition parliament.
Parliament can ammend constitution outside the protected clause specified in constitution
Supreme court threw away basic structure doctrine.

Yeap Azimio really dont need or deserve such a position;
Such opposition only works when opposition is constructive;
Not one calling for demos and asking people to not pay gov loans;

Ruto should just continue destroying Azimio by co-opting more of it members because it's a destructive force.

Ruto and Judiciary said Uhuru couldn't amend the constitution,Any attempt by Ruto to try and amend the constitution will be a declaration of war, secession and disintegration of Kenya as a republic.

Katiba ikae Vivo hivyo ilivyo.

The constitution says that political parties must be allocated I think 0.3% annually of national revenue...Azimio will receive more than 500MN each financial year in the next 5 years...that is like 50MN annually,enough to finance the office of the parties in opposition,pay research teams,media and logistics.Apart from that,Raila and Kalonxo receive millions of shillings from their over 20 Governors on a monthly basis.There is enough funding for opposition not counting even membership fees.

Any political thruggery by Ruto/gachagua ought to be vehemently opposed.

[Georgesoros]

Ruto and Judiciary said Uhuru couldn't amend the constitution,Any attempt by Ruto to try and amend the constitution will be a declaration of war, secession and disintegration of Kenya as a republic.

Katiba ikae Vivo hivyo ilivyo.

The constitution says that political parties must be allocated I think 0.3% annually of national revenue...Azimio will receive more than 500MN each financial year in the next 5 years...that is like 50MN annually,enough to finance the office of the parties in opposition,pay research teams,media and logistics.Apart from that,Raila and Kalonxo receive millions of shillings from their over 20 Governors on a monthly basis.There is enough funding for opposition not counting even membership fees.

Any political thruggery by Ruto/gachagua ought to be vehemently opposed.

Whats wrong with making it formal?

[audacityofhope]

Ruto and Judiciary said Uhuru couldn't amend the constitution,Any attempt by Ruto to try and amend the constitution will be a declaration of war, secession and disintegration of Kenya as a republic.

Katiba ikae Vivo hivyo ilivyo.

The constitution says that political parties must be allocated I think 0.3% annually of national revenue...Azimio will receive more than 500MN each financial year in the next 5 years...that is like 50MN annually,enough to finance the office of the parties in opposition,pay research teams,media and logistics.Apart from that,Raila and Kalonxo receive millions of shillings from their over 20 Governors on a monthly basis.There is enough funding for opposition not counting even membership fees.

Any political thruggery by Ruto/gachagua ought to be vehemently opposed.

Whats wrong with making it formal?

Bozo, it is called  "mutilation". The constitution  is not a writing on a piece of paper you buy an eraser and rub and edit without an overriding reason. The constitutions of USA of 1776 has only been amended 27 times. Same  applies for UK. We expect any changes to the 2010 katiba to go through a Referendum.

The founders also specified a process by which the Constitution may be amended, and since its ratification, the Constitution has been amended 27 times. In order to prevent arbitrary changes, the process for making amendments is quite onerous.
Read more at: The US Constitution

In the era when Kenya was a de jure one-party state, Moi when asked why he suppressed  agitation for multi-party his answer would be that the agitators were committing  acts that "were not lawful". When Moi left in 2002, the Katiba written at the Lancaster House conference  was hardly recognizable!

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The RuBBIsh verdicts offer clear pathways to constitutional amendments and running of constitutional bodies.

Hasla's principal legal advisor, Dr. Korir Sing'oei was a central player in the cases so he must know what will cut and what won't.

[Nowayhaha]

Dont make us laugh . Rutos proxies are the ones who won the case. Reason he rewarded the judges first things first.

The RuBBIsh verdicts offer clear pathways to constitutional amendments and running of constitutional bodies.

Hasla's principal legal advisor, Dr. Korir Sing'oei was a central player in the cases so he must know what will cut and what won't.

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Oh haha! You can hardly spot forests for trees you don't wanna miss swinging at.

Dont make us laugh . Rutos proxies are the ones who won the case. Reason he rewarded the judges first things first.

The RuBBIsh verdicts offer clear pathways to constitutional amendments and running of constitutional bodies.

Hasla's principal legal advisor, Dr. Korir Sing'oei was a central player in the cases so he must know what will cut and what won't.